Need opinion

thispecialk · 07-06-2009, 10:39 PM

The difference I pay to upgrade is 12 not my car value

StLRedrider · 07-06-2009, 10:46 PM

He's basically telling you to bend over

370Z Purist · 07-07-2009, 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StLRedrider

He's basically telling you to bend over

And take it while moaning passionately.

Or yelling at him to go faster, whatever the twisted mind of the rep wants.

MutantChicken · 07-07-2009, 12:29 AM

Only 200 miles on the car ? Really ? Why didn't you just buy the touring model to begin with ? Sorry, I had to ask ..... at this point it's too late. buyers remorse is a horrible thing. I would think that 12k would buy you a lot of upgrades. I think that stillen has been around for quite a while, not just for Nissan products, but I'm not the expert here. But again, 12k would buy wheels, aftermarket nav, stereo, some performance goodies. I would think that with only 200 miles you are much better off just fixing up the car you have.

semtex · 07-07-2009, 10:55 AM

Wait a minute, guys. Give the knee jerk reactions a rest and do the math. Is this really that unreasonable a deal? A base model is what? $30k? He wants a sport with touring. Don't know if he wants nav or not. If not, then we're talking around $38k, right? If he does, then more like $41k? So there's an $11k delta right there. Plus, his base model depreciated the moment he drove it off the lot. So if my numbers are right, then this dealer is basically letting him return his car for a $1k hit on depreciation and swap it for the car he really wants. Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying I'd do it if I were him. But it's not "nuts," and it's not "robbery." Given the price points, I don't think this dealer is trying to make him "bend over." Now, if my numbers are off, then someone please correct me, because obviously my opinion is based on my understanding of the numbers and price points.

g96818 · 07-07-2009, 11:26 AM

you forgot tax, doc, and licensing fees

IMWEZL · 07-07-2009, 01:37 PM

It's Hawaii so I'm sure the car doesn't have the Nav. But yeah the $12K figure is close with Hawaii's 4.7% tax + the salesman adding a little profit.

Special K if you're serious I'm sure you can contact some of the shops here on Oahu, tell them your intent and see what bids/estimates they give.

imag · 07-07-2009, 07:50 PM

One other point: the Sport/Touring will have much higher resale value than a Base model with 12K in mods.

I'm not saying it's worth the trade, but it needed to be pointed out. If you're going to keep the car for a long time, I'd put the 12K into mods and be happy. However, since you're already looking to sell the first one after 200 miles, resale value may be important to you.

The whole thing is an absolute killer on sales tax, license, etc. though. Not to rub it in, but you could have just burned 5-7K in a garbage can and kept yourself warm for a few hours

I say go mods and be happy.

thispecialk · 07-07-2009, 08:03 PM

Yea I didn't do the deal I'm keeping base and I just ordered stollen exhaust anyone wanna help install when it arrives

g96818 · 07-07-2009, 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thispecialk

Yea I didn't do the deal I'm keeping base and I just ordered stollen exhaust anyone wanna help install when it arrives

how bout hfc and intake? i'll help u if it's not the weekend or if i don't work ot past 3pm

thispecialk · 07-08-2009, 01:28 AM

Well I didn't want to add intake yet till it's carb approve Ill be going back to Cali in feb

thispecialk · 07-08-2009, 01:29 AM

O yea the total was 41700 that's with tax

blinkme323 · 07-08-2009, 01:38 AM

Don't do it....Like others have said, just get better brakes, an LSD, better wheels and call it a day. Integrated NAV is overrated IMO anyway.

edeeZee · 07-08-2009, 02:07 AM

GTM twin turbo kit, I think it's $10,000 installed, though you need to ship your car here in S. Cali. This kit is off the hook...I think it's like 500hp for a "mild" set up.

Actually, don't get a spoiler, leave your stock 18"s on, get a Kaaz limited slip and this twin turbo kit, do your suspension...and voila-->500hp sleeper creeping up on unsuspecting victims a la turbo 911's, Vipers, Z06's etc.

Oh yeah, let nurburing "Mr. 911 turbo driver" who supposedly crashed a 370 pull the leather seats out of the one he smashed so that you can install them in your base model. Hell, if theyr'e the orange leather ones, I want them!

thispecialk · 07-08-2009, 02:49 AM

Any recommendation In a deep dish rim? Throw some names out there

07-06-2009, 10:46 PM	#32 (permalink)
StLRedrider A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: St.louis,Mo Posts: 17,755 Drives: O9Sprt/Touring,p-51 Rep Power: 61	He's basically telling you to bend over __________________ Dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today J.Dean

07-07-2009, 10:55 AM	#35 (permalink)
semtex A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Behind enemy lines Age: 54 Posts: 5,995 Drives: People to drink Rep Power: 33	Wait a minute, guys. Give the knee jerk reactions a rest and do the math. Is this really that unreasonable a deal? A base model is what? $30k? He wants a sport with touring. Don't know if he wants nav or not. If not, then we're talking around $38k, right? If he does, then more like $41k? So there's an $11k delta right there. Plus, his base model depreciated the moment he drove it off the lot. So if my numbers are right, then this dealer is basically letting him return his car for a $1k hit on depreciation and swap it for the car he really wants. Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying I'd do it if I were him. But it's not "nuts," and it's not "robbery." Given the price points, I don't think this dealer is trying to make him "bend over." Now, if my numbers are off, then someone please correct me, because obviously my opinion is based on my understanding of the numbers and price points. __________________ "There are no small accidents on this circuit." -- Ayrton Senna 316.8whp & 248 ft/lbs (Dyno Dynamics) \| 319whp & 256 ft/lbs (DynoJet) (04/23/10) Stillen G3 CAI, CBE, Pulley / F.I. LTH / GTSpec Ladder Brace / Setrab Oil Cooler / UpRev-tuned by Forged Perf.

07-07-2009, 11:26 AM	#36 (permalink)
g96818 Track Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: A rock in a big pond Posts: 681 Drives: 2009 370Z, 2012 M56 Rep Power: 3395	you forgot tax, doc, and licensing fees __________________ CZP are lying thieves!

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07-06-2009, 10:39 PM	#31 (permalink)
thispecialk Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 483 Drives: 2009 370z, manual, Rep Power: 16	The difference I pay to upgrade is 12 not my car value

07-07-2009, 12:29 AM	#34 (permalink)
MutantChicken Base Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: NorCal Posts: 40 Drives: 2004 Ram-2007 Harley Rep Power: 17	Only 200 miles on the car ? Really ? Why didn't you just buy the touring model to begin with ? Sorry, I had to ask ..... at this point it's too late. buyers remorse is a horrible thing. I would think that 12k would buy you a lot of upgrades. I think that stillen has been around for quite a while, not just for Nissan products, but I'm not the expert here. But again, 12k would buy wheels, aftermarket nav, stereo, some performance goodies. I would think that with only 200 miles you are much better off just fixing up the car you have.

07-07-2009, 01:37 PM	#37 (permalink)
IMWEZL Track Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: HNL Posts: 603 Drives: 370Z/MKVII GTI Rep Power: 18	It's Hawaii so I'm sure the car doesn't have the Nav. But yeah the $12K figure is close with Hawaii's 4.7% tax + the salesman adding a little profit. Special K if you're serious I'm sure you can contact some of the shops here on Oahu, tell them your intent and see what bids/estimates they give.

07-07-2009, 07:50 PM	#38 (permalink)
imag Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Oakland, CA Posts: 446 Drives: up the wall Rep Power: 17	One other point: the Sport/Touring will have much higher resale value than a Base model with 12K in mods. I'm not saying it's worth the trade, but it needed to be pointed out. If you're going to keep the car for a long time, I'd put the 12K into mods and be happy. However, since you're already looking to sell the first one after 200 miles, resale value may be important to you. The whole thing is an absolute killer on sales tax, license, etc. though. Not to rub it in, but you could have just burned 5-7K in a garbage can and kept yourself warm for a few hours I say go mods and be happy.

07-07-2009, 08:03 PM	#39 (permalink)
thispecialk Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 483 Drives: 2009 370z, manual, Rep Power: 16	Yea I didn't do the deal I'm keeping base and I just ordered stollen exhaust anyone wanna help install when it arrives

07-08-2009, 01:28 AM	#41 (permalink)
thispecialk Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 483 Drives: 2009 370z, manual, Rep Power: 16	Well I didn't want to add intake yet till it's carb approve Ill be going back to Cali in feb

07-08-2009, 01:29 AM	#42 (permalink)
thispecialk Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 483 Drives: 2009 370z, manual, Rep Power: 16	O yea the total was 41700 that's with tax

07-08-2009, 01:38 AM	#43 (permalink)
blinkme323 Base Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Philly Posts: 227 Drives: 09 370z Base w/Sport Rep Power: 17	Don't do it....Like others have said, just get better brakes, an LSD, better wheels and call it a day. Integrated NAV is overrated IMO anyway.

07-08-2009, 02:07 AM	#44 (permalink)
edeeZee Track Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: s. cali, los angeles Posts: 627 Drives: 09 370z plat 6 speed Rep Power: 267	GTM twin turbo kit, I think it's $10,000 installed, though you need to ship your car here in S. Cali. This kit is off the hook...I think it's like 500hp for a "mild" set up. Actually, don't get a spoiler, leave your stock 18"s on, get a Kaaz limited slip and this twin turbo kit, do your suspension...and voila-->500hp sleeper creeping up on unsuspecting victims a la turbo 911's, Vipers, Z06's etc. Oh yeah, let nurburing "Mr. 911 turbo driver" who supposedly crashed a 370 pull the leather seats out of the one he smashed so that you can install them in your base model. Hell, if theyr'e the orange leather ones, I want them!

07-08-2009, 02:49 AM	#45 (permalink)
thispecialk Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 483 Drives: 2009 370z, manual, Rep Power: 16	Any recommendation In a deep dish rim? Throw some names out there