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Island Z 11-17-2012 03:21 PM

ok im new so dont kill me....
 
so i just jot my new 2013 touring/sport.bad *** toy to have it in the already with a cylinder misfire/cel flashing. the dealer said that it MAY be the ecu which happens to be back ordered from japan.so after calling nissan NA the rep told me to hang tight to see how long it will take to get it in. keep in mind the car has only 425 miles and then original tank of fuel!!! its ben in the shop over a week now and looks like in might stay foe another 2/3 weeks nissian n/a said they will make it up to me with something... like some add ons. the question i had was since its the sport body and has the spoiler already is that the s tune type ? i think the Nismo spoiler will not fit do to the fact the the deck lid is already drilled ? i wanted the Nismo wing but if it wont fit than should i ask for the cat back exhaust system?? what would you do ? or would yoou just push for a new car ? steve...with out wheels

Felix 808 11-17-2012 03:30 PM

Sorry to hear about your car. It really depends on what you want & can get Nissan for. For me, I would pass on any of their stuff with the exception of the back up camera mirror. I would shoot for a handful of free services. You can do a lot better with the aftermarket for things like exhaust, suspensions body kits.

:twocents: YMMV

gomer_110 11-17-2012 03:55 PM

Don't know if they'd go for it but you might wanna try to get them to extend the warranty. Just a thought.

Just like Island said, you're better off getting free service work as the non-Nissan/Nismo aftermarket parts tend to be superior.

scottIN 11-17-2012 04:04 PM

Yeah, normally stuff like that is more along the lines of floor mats or a key chain. My MB dealer was big on giving me clothing for problems.

Don't hold your breath expecting a new exhaust or anything...

*And make sure you document everything - dates, conversations, e-mails, just in case you would have to lemon it or something. A lot easier to keep track as you go vs. trying to go back and remember everything.

Island Z 11-17-2012 04:14 PM

I think your all most likely right, the car has nav that has the back up cam already.I'm thinking about the extend warranty would be good. Iv got every thing written down and dated for now. At least the dealer gave me a free loaner to burn up (swell altima)

LMBmikeZ 11-17-2012 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by scottIN (Post 2020630)
Yeah, normally stuff like that is more along the lines of floor mats or a key chain. My MB dealer was big on giving me clothing for problems.

Don't hold your breath expecting a new exhaust or anything...

*And make sure you document everything - dates, conversations, e-mails, just in case you would have to lemon it or something. A lot easier to keep track as you go vs. trying to go back and remember everything.

:iagree: good note keeping is key for anything legal.


GL OP hope your new Z issues get sorted out ASAP!

mhcoss 11-17-2012 06:13 PM

demand a loaner 370z till you get yours back

forza370z 11-17-2012 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by gomer_110 (Post 2020619)
Don't know if they'd go for it but you might wanna try to get them to extend the warranty. Just a thought.

Just like Island said, you're better off getting free service work as the non-Nissan/Nismo aftermarket parts tend to be superior.

:iagree: Extend the warranty would be a nice and reasonable thing to ask.

280z/300zx 11-17-2012 06:36 PM

Personally I'd be pushing for just getting a different 370z. Reasons why:

1) you have been out your brand new car now almost since day one and now it looks like it may be a few more weeks. Plus there is no guarantee that when they get a new ECU in that the problem will be fixed. It's happened more than once where the initial fix doesn't solve the problem.

2) Chances are what they are going to offer are free services or extended warranty. For the first few years of the cars life the only thing you will really need are basic services that you can do yourself at home. I would rather do my own oil changes rather than Nissan do them. So giving me free oil changes and tune ups would do me no good. Extending the warranty? Again, in theory the car shouldn't have any problems with it for several years. Warranty work in the first few years of a new cars life is far and few between. So again, to me this would be pointless. As other mentioned they are not going to be giving you performance parts or anything like that.

3) I would already be sour about the whole experience and would rather just start over with a new car that doesn't already have issues. That's just me

On a side note, I'm not sure you would want the NISMO wing on the car without the front NISMO lip. The NISMO wing actually is functional producing a decent amount of downforce at higher speeds. The Front lip does the same thing which combined means both front and rear downforce. Adding just the rear wing without a front lip in theory could cause some instability at higher speeds; assuming you ever decided to push your car into higher speeds where it would matter. Just something to think about.

Z370Z011 11-17-2012 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by 280z/300zx (Post 2020861)
Personally I'd be pushing for just getting a different 370z. Reasons why:

1) you have been out your brand new car now almost since day one and now it looks like it may be a few more weeks. Plus there is no guarantee that when they get a new ECU in that the problem will be fixed. It's happened more than once where the initial fix doesn't solve the problem.

2) Chances are what they are going to offer are free services or extended warranty. For the first few years of the cars life the only thing you will really need are basic services that you can do yourself at home. I would rather do my own oil changes rather than Nissan do them. So giving me free oil changes and tune ups would do me no good. Extending the warranty? Again, in theory the car shouldn't have any problems with it for several years. Warranty work in the first few years of a new cars life is far and few between. So again, to me this would be pointless. As other mentioned they are not going to be giving you performance parts or anything like that.

3) I would already be sour about the whole experience and would rather just start over with a new car that doesn't already have issues. That's just me

On a side note, I'm not sure you would want the NISMO wing on the car without the front NISMO lip. The NISMO wing actually is functional producing a decent amount of downforce at higher speeds. The Front lip does the same thing which combined means both front and rear downforce. Adding just the rear wing without a front lip in theory could cause some instability at higher speeds; assuming you ever decided to push your car into higher speeds where it would matter. Just something to think about.

Very well said! And i completely agree! I would make them give me a new car.

OldGuy 11-17-2012 09:03 PM

Negotiate for a new car. You may have just had a glimpse of what lies ahead of you with that car. Even if it costs you a $500 or a bit more, consider it a lesson learned and get a fresh start with a new car.

binary0x01 11-17-2012 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by OldGuy (Post 2021022)
Negotiate for a new car. You may have just had a glimpse of what lies ahead of you with that car. Even if it costs you a $500 or a bit more, consider it a lesson learned and get a fresh start with a new car.

Ditch the car now man, seriously.

Z-Girl 12 11-17-2012 09:36 PM

Swap it for another...

Bagherra 11-18-2012 07:27 AM

yep, screw that car, get a new one...

NewtoZ's5 11-18-2012 07:42 AM

I'd rather get anther car too. That car is already giving off bad vibes :eekdance:

axmea? 11-18-2012 09:34 AM

Very unlikely that you would get a new car out of this. Would you have thought of exchanging it for a new car had the part been there to begin with? At the most, your looking at what's reasonable for the hassle of waiting for the part. Everyone's talking like its bad car when really, it only has a bad part. Although it is a stretch, ask for an extended warranty like a few members suggested and press hard for it. If they won't budge and say that's too much, tell them you'll do a 25/75 split. Let hem know that the bad experience will result to a very bad service experience score for both Nissan and the dealership when your surveys arrive unless you get what you want. I'm telling you, those surveys mean a lot to them. Good luck.

LMBmikeZ 11-18-2012 09:37 AM

soon enough he can lemon the car though like OP have said, just keep records of everything going on from start to finish and also look into your states lemon laws......

Montez 11-18-2012 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 280z/300zx (Post 2020861)
Personally I'd be pushing for just getting a different 370z. Reasons why:

1) you have been out your brand new car now almost since day one and now it looks like it may be a few more weeks. Plus there is no guarantee that when they get a new ECU in that the problem will be fixed. It's happened more than once where the initial fix doesn't solve the problem.

3) I would already be sour about the whole experience and would rather just start over with a new car that doesn't already have issues. That's just me
.

Right on! :tup:

Island Z 11-20-2012 09:04 PM

So a quick update... The ecu that the dealer thinks is bad is on back order still. BUT they have been given the ok to take parts out out of another car on the lot. So, we will see on very soon if the problem will be fixed or I'm in for more down time.... Will up date again soon I hope.... Steve

axmea? 11-20-2012 11:51 PM

So it's been in the shop now for 4 days? If they pull from the lot, they're on the hook for the hassle of not having it ready for about 5 days or so.

Cmike2780 11-21-2012 12:36 AM

Def go for extended warranty and oil changes. Ester oil is about $100 per service. For parts, I'd ask them to spring for the door sills & back up cam.

Island Z 11-21-2012 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by axmea? (Post 2025895)
So it's been in the shop now for 4 days? If they pull from the lot, they're on the hook for the hassle of not having it ready for about 5 days or so.

No it's been in the shop for 13 days now- might be longer if the ecm doesnt fix the problem. I did talk to Nissan N/A rep- he said that they would be willing to give me extended warranty

speedfreek 11-21-2012 09:09 AM

This one sounds like a lemon. New car is the only way I would be happy. They could use yours as a lease or something.

2011 Nismo#91 11-21-2012 01:05 PM

If it's just the ecu I wouldn't worry too much. If it's not do your best to get another one. If you ever sell the car it will have a history of problems from the start and people will be wary. It would be hard to get a new car because there is no way the dealer can sell your car again as new since it has already been registered to someone.

Island Z 11-24-2012 07:28 AM

So this is the "fix" dealer called me last night they told me that after the ecu AND a new fuel injector had been installed it still was not fixed but GOOD news- "we found that a mouse had gotten under the hood and has damaged the wire harness for the injectors"
So now I need to call my insurance co. today to file a claim! sort of makes me feel better about the car,in that its not a mechanical problem....steve

Z-Girl 12 11-24-2012 07:31 AM

Yeah!!!

Island Z 11-24-2012 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Z-Girl 12 (Post 2030750)
Yeah!!!

On a lighter note- no i can order the stillen cbs ! ( didn't want to install it on a lemon):icon18:

axmea? 11-24-2012 09:03 AM

Bad luck all over. It never ends. Sorry to hear.

scottIN 11-24-2012 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Island Z (Post 2030749)
So this is the "fix" dealer called me last night they told me that after the ecu AND a new fuel injector had been installed it still was not fixed but GOOD news- "we found that a mouse had gotten under the hood and has damaged the wire harness for the injectors"
So now I need to call my insurance co. today to file a claim! sort of makes me feel better about the car,in that its not a mechanical problem....steve

Don't tell your insurance it was a mouse! Most insurance does not cover any damage by vermin. Figure out something else to tell them. 'Damaged' might cover it.

Too bad there is no way to show it was like that on delivery. Because you'll probably be screwed under warranty and screwed under insurance too.


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