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SpawnAeroJohn 07-03-2009 10:41 PM

Carbon fiber roof!
 
Well as you all know we have been working hard to make the best carbon fiber roof overlay available and here we go the prototype!

Its made of 1 layer of 2x2 carbon fiber 5.7 oz and 1 layer of 1.5 oz matting. It weighs less than a few lbs and believe it or not sits flush! Check it out for yourself! Sorry for no finished pictures. I just pulled it from the mold a few min ago (10 30 PM) And thought Id show you guys!

This is how it fits snug underneath the side A pillars (the pillars that stretch from the fenders to the quarter glass, and yes they do come off) Since they fit underneath it makes it look like its not an overlay.
http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/t...6/SSPX1737.jpg

http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/t...6/SSPX1734.jpg

This is showing how flush it is with the sides. It actually site a tad lower so it looks even better!

http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/t...6/SSPX1738.jpg

This is the over all untrimmed look.
http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/t...6/SSPX1733.jpg


Also keep in mind it looks that way only because its not wetsanded and clear coated yet.

The MSRP Is $625.00 but we are letting the first few go for only $500.

We are only taking one or two orders at the time at most so we dont get backed up with work. No over ordering, no overdue jobs, no falling behind, no angry customers :)

rufio11 07-03-2009 11:14 PM

Looks great, but one question, will it yellow over time? Kinda new to the CF look, really like the look, and want to know the scope on the stuff. Seen some that appear to have a yellow tint to it, just wondering what thats about. Thank you

fly yellow 07-03-2009 11:33 PM

I don't suppose that will work with the GPS antenae?

SpawnAeroJohn 07-03-2009 11:43 PM

We have the antenna attatchment that is also an overlay. Its the stock flat roof that can be drilled out. The antenna goes over it. And therse a carbon fiber cap we will have that goes over the antenna so it looks like its one piece. No extra charge for the first few sales.

And no our stuff will not turn yellow! If it fades abnormally then its covered under our warrenty.

All you have to do is to take care of it just like you would take care of your roof with out the carbon. Wash and wax it just like you normally would. All that helps preserve the carbon fiber.

Just like paint carbon fiber does not last for ever. But if you maintain it, it will last as long as you take care of it just like anything else.

We use the most top of the line clear epoxy that is also super strong and durrable. Each carbon fiber goes through a dual lamination system. Most companies only laminate the carbon fiber with one coat of clear resin. We do 2 clear coat epoxi resin coats. Not only that we clear coat it with dupont clear coat. Not sure on the brand of dupont clear but it costs us close to 300 for a setup so it is very good quality.

Lifetime warranty.

bullitt5897 07-04-2009 12:07 AM

Awesome JOHN! You guys ROCK!!!! I cant wait to see my car next weekend!!!!

Togo 07-04-2009 12:29 AM

That looks sexy, especially on the PW! Can't wait to see what this car looks like with all the goodies in place. :tup:

SpawnAeroJohn 07-04-2009 02:29 PM

Thanks!

GreenJalapeno 07-04-2009 03:46 PM

looks gorgeous!

RCZ 07-04-2009 06:40 PM

Looks really really good John! That's going to sell like hotcakes. Looking forward to the rest of the stuff!

SpawnAeroJohn 07-05-2009 01:31 AM

Sell like hotcakes?! Well if anybody wants to order a stack of 3 Ill throw in the bacon for no charge :P

Caravanshaka 07-05-2009 11:55 AM

This would look hot on my white Z, but I can't justify spending $500 on a cosmetic piece :(

SpawnAeroJohn 07-05-2009 12:13 PM

Imagine paying close to $1000 from another company.

Caravanshaka 07-05-2009 12:20 PM

Oh I know, I never would. I understand the value of carbon fiber (I used to race R/C cars that were nearly full carbon fiber), I just can't justify the expense even though the value is up there.

Same reason why I did my own headlights instead of sending them to CiNcity to be done.

fly yellow 07-05-2009 12:36 PM

I think the price is incredibly fair, unfortunately I can't do it right now, but in a couple months when I have some things paid off I will probably be looking to do this, as well as the front license plate, the B pillars (do you guys have those in the works?), and maybe a rear license plate area. I think the CF would look great on the yellow. If only there was a way to make the door handles out of CF.

Caravanshaka 07-05-2009 12:51 PM

agreed, price is more than fair if you ask me. Just not something I want to spend money on right now.

Good work spawn, keep it up :tup:

ZKindaGuy 07-05-2009 01:42 PM

Sometimes I wish those who feel compelled to design add-ons would think things through so whatever it is they design has some kind of good reason to be made and has some true added-value in functionality or performance. This thing does neither. Instead it actually distracts from the 370's natural design beauty

....no thanks....

ZKindaGuy 07-05-2009 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caravanshaka (Post 107022)
This would look hot on my white Z.....:(

:barf:

Caravanshaka 07-05-2009 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZKindaGuy (Post 107102)
Sometimes I wish those who feel compelled to design add-ons would think things through so whatever it is they design has some kind of good reason to be made and has some true added-value in functionality or performance. This thing does neither. Instead it actually distracts from the 370's natural design beauty

....no thanks....

if you were following what they are doing, they are designing quite a few parts. Many people do mods that are only cosmetic, there is no problem in designing mods to satisfy these people.

Many of their parts are going to be functional aero parts. Just so happens that they are starting with a few easier overlay pieces to get warmed up with their molds.

fly yellow 07-05-2009 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZKindaGuy (Post 107102)
Sometimes I wish those who feel compelled to design add-ons would think things through so whatever it is they design has some kind of good reason to be made and has some true added-value in functionality or performance. This thing does neither. Instead it actually distracts from the 370's natural design beauty

....no thanks....

I do understand your POV, but some people put just as much weight on appearance as they do performance. Of course appearance is always subjective, and performance is undeniable. If Nissan made a Z that performed like a GT-R, but looked like an 85 Yugo then I doubt too many people would be buying it.

I see these CF mods as being no different than people who spend 5 figures on paint jobs. It may not do a thing for performance, but it looks good to those people that choose to do it. Personally I want my Z to stand out when they start becoming commonplace. I don't want it to be too over the top and I think this CF could be just what I am looking for. The Z is still a mass produced, reasonabley priced, well performing car. This isn't as sacreligious as putting CF overlays on a Ferrari Enzo.

tvfreakazoid 07-05-2009 02:11 PM

I'm really dont' know to much about carbon fiber other than being light in weight.

What did you mean by it won't last very long? Will the fibers start coming off?

Also what is the weight difference between the carbon and the aluminum roof?

My last question is, I talked about on this forum about carbon engine hoods. Someone said that sometimes companies don't use "100%" carbon fiber and it's a fiber glass hood with some carbon fiber sheet overlay or something to that nature.

bullitt5897 07-05-2009 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZKindaGuy (Post 107102)
Sometimes I wish those who feel compelled to design add-ons would think things through so whatever it is they design has some kind of good reason to be made and has some true added-value in functionality or performance. This thing does neither. Instead it actually distracts from the 370's natural design beauty

....no thanks....

Seriously?!?!? I track my 370z... already been to the track after owning the car for 2 months. These pieces are just the beginning of a whole slew of parts to be designed!!! These parts have a true added value to those who wish to separate themselves from other generic 370z's... John and crew are working on my car which will have TONS of parts on it including: CF hood, Hatch, Fenders, Pillars, Roof, and etc...

Maybe you should do a lil more reading before you make judgmental comments! If its not your thing then leave it at that. don't take a positive thread and add a negative spin to it.

Thanks, Hopefully you will find some parts that do add value to you.

respectfully,

Mike

nogoodname 07-05-2009 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tvfreakazoid (Post 107108)
I'm really dont' know to much about carbon fiber other than being light in weight.

What did you mean by it won't last very long? Will the fibers start coming off?

Also what is the weight difference between the carbon and the aluminum roof?

My last question is, I talked about on this forum about carbon engine hoods. Someone said that sometimes companies don't use "100%" carbon fiber and it's a fiber glass hood with some carbon fiber sheet overlay or something to that nature.


also, not lasting long is just the way it could have been made.

not a big difference in weight from aluminum and CF...but there is a savings none the less.

i've heard of fiberglass with CF wrapped on it too.

Celcius 07-05-2009 10:26 PM

600 is a great price for an overlay, but I think a full-replacement would sell like hot cakes!

They offer this for several other cars and people love them regardless of the functionality. Good luck with the project - I'm looking forward to photos of the final product!

nicknick 07-06-2009 12:43 AM

What iss the point of this? It is just for looks. You are paying money for raising the centre of gravity on your cars. If you ask me it is a waste of money. Now if it was replacing the roof as in an M3 then yes great, but I imagine it would cost a heck of a lot more dosh.

SpawnAeroJohn 07-06-2009 12:49 AM

Like it was said above its for those who like cosmetical add ons and if you like it then what’s the waste?

Its just like getting a paint job or putting on rims or tinting your windows. Anybody who has said anything about it being stupid for it being cosmetically. I bet that person also has something that is just for cosmetical purposes weather it be rims or anything else. Its just to improve the look of the car to that one person who owns the car.

Like others say not one product is going to be like by every person but there is no point to question its purpose when we all clearly know the purpose.

SpawnAeroJohn 07-06-2009 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tvfreakazoid (Post 107108)
I'm really dont' know to much about carbon fiber other than being light in weight.

What did you mean by it won't last very long? Will the fibers start coming off?

Also what is the weight difference between the carbon and the aluminum roof?

My last question is, I talked about on this forum about carbon engine hoods. Someone said that sometimes companies don't use "100%" carbon fiber and it's a fiber glass hood with some carbon fiber sheet overlay or something to that nature.

This overlay barely weighs anything. I will measure the weight tomorrow.

But I don’t think I said it wont last long and if I did I apologize. I said it does not last for every just like anything else you put on a car. This should last as long as a paint job because its been proven that if you wash, polish, and wax this piece (because it is clear coated) along with the rest of your car it will last as long as you take care of it. If you never wash, wax, or polish your cars paint job itl only last a few years before it starts to noticeably fade. So if you take care of the part just like you normally would of your car. Itl last as long as you own it.

Not only that its covered with a life of your car warranty.

SpawnAeroJohn 07-06-2009 11:08 AM

Yes yes.

nogoodname 07-06-2009 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nicknick (Post 107665)
What iss the point of this? It is just for looks. You are paying money for raising the centre of gravity on your cars. If you ask me it is a waste of money. Now if it was replacing the roof as in an M3 then yes great, but I imagine it would cost a heck of a lot more dosh.


what are bodykits for, what about spoilers and lips....what about splitters??
not every body tracks there car to and from work...lol
cosmetic changes are quite popular to do.

what about tints and tail light overlays??

ZKindaGuy 07-06-2009 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nicknick (Post 107665)
What iss the point of this? It is just for looks. You are paying money for raising the centre of gravity on your cars. If you ask me it is a waste of money. Now if it was replacing the roof as in an M3 then yes great, but I imagine it would cost a heck of a lot more dosh.


:iagree: Can't argue with the bling flingers though. They just don't get it.

wstar 07-06-2009 11:24 AM

Look, I'm very much in the "functional" crowd, but give these guys a break on the looks stuff. If you didn't care about the looks of your new 370Z, you could've built up a nice track (or street) performer for less money on an older and crappier platform, many options exist. It's hard to say anyone bought the brand new 370Z without any regard to how the vehicle they're driving looks.

vman 07-06-2009 11:44 AM

just ignore them, they're just haters.......

m4a1mustang 07-06-2009 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZKindaGuy (Post 108027)
:iagree: Can't argue with the bling flingers though. They just don't get it.

You're being a little bit ridiculous here.

If you do ANYTHING to alter the look of your Z from the factory we should all get on you about it with ridiculous arguments like, "this is stupid, i don't like it. you guys suck."

miguez 07-06-2009 12:09 PM

Careful everyone, narrow mindedness is contagious...

m4a1mustang 07-06-2009 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miguez (Post 108077)
Careful everyone, narrow mindedness is contagious...

You're right. *eject*

Celcius 07-06-2009 12:41 PM

I'm sure John's used to catching flak like this. All aero and style companies have to deal with the occasional hardcore function over form fanatic.

Don't let it discourage you John! Keep up the good work and please post up some higher quality photos once everything is finished!

SpawnAeroJohn 07-06-2009 12:56 PM

Thanks!!!

tvfreakazoid 07-07-2009 04:23 AM

Just curious, what is the guestament:confused: of a 100% carbon fiber hood? And what would the weight difference be compared to the Z's aluminum hood?

SpawnAeroJohn 07-07-2009 07:30 AM

If you wanted a full carbon fiber roof replacement youd shed at least 10 lbs. We only make roof caps though :-/

nogoodname 07-07-2009 08:26 AM

^^ lol.....freakazoid asked about a hood.
Hoods and roofs are being mixed up now.

SpawnAeroJohn 07-07-2009 09:54 AM

Sorry! The CF hood would shed a little more than 10 lbs. Not exactly sure yet we still have to weigh the two.


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