Nissan 370Z Forum

Nissan 370Z Forum (http://www.the370z.com/)
-   Nissan 370Z General Discussions (http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-general-discussions/)
-   -   Venting (http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-general-discussions/62378-venting.html)

lachap55 10-25-2012 07:30 PM

Venting
 
In my most humbling opinion Nissan’s has drop the ball on this series of Z. Pretty much Nissan and Mazda had the convertible market wrapped up. They both combine to run Honda (S2000), Pontiac (solstice), Chrysler (crossfire), Saturn (sky) out of business. All of these convertibles have hit the dust in the last 6yrs. Problems have pop up on this series including steering lock, gas tank, oil temperature, paint etc. I had a choice of a tussy under 175 hp Mazda or pay over 50,000 on a BMW for the same thing I get in 370z. If I had to do it all over again, would I buy my 2010 Roadster, manual, SP, 370Z. I dreamed of having a Z for many years, and to wonder if I brought a lemon down the road? Final note, Consumer report and MSN put these cars on the “stay away from list.” TIME WILL TELL, even though I care less what they say about our Z; I would rather it had made the top 10 sports car list....Don't you?

6MT 10-25-2012 07:38 PM

IMHO, the Z shouldn't be a convertible.

GaleForce 10-25-2012 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6MT (Post 1981388)
IMHO, the Z shouldn't be a convertible.

:iagree:

Telephone 10-25-2012 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6MT (Post 1981388)
IMHO, the Z shouldn't be a convertible.

I disagree as long as the hardtop is available. It wasn't available for the S2000, and therefore I never bought one years ago. The convertible option for the Z doesn't apply to me nor does it bother me.

The Z is not perfect, but it doesn't have to be. Some Z owners sound like women looking for the perfect man. Despite the shortcomings of the Z, I think it is the right car for me...so I live with it. Then again I did buy a 2012.

6MT 10-25-2012 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Telephone (Post 1981423)
I disagree as long as the hardtop is available. It wasn't available for the S2000, and therefore I never bought one years ago. The convertible option for the Z doesn't apply to me nor does it bother me.

The Z is not perfect, but it doesn't have to be. Some Z owners sound like women looking for the perfect man. Despite the shortcomings of the Z, I think it is the right car for me...so I live with it. Then again I did buy a 2012.

:inoutroflpuke::bowrofl::icon18: but :iagree:

lachap55 10-25-2012 08:17 PM

Cars can be moded, upgraded, changed, tuned, made prefect if you put time and money into them. On the other hand...WOMEN, well. I am not crying but they could have done a better job on some of these issues. I did say I was just venting.

sonic370 10-25-2012 08:47 PM

i love my 09 370 50,000 on it never been in the shop. except for a bad gas cap.
never has burned a drop of oil. and the 350 i had was ok.

with all that being said i'm going to wait another 12 to 20 months and if nissian doesn't up HP and torque to better levels. i'm switching to a good old v8.

maybe a good used c6 vette. but it's been a great ride so far with the Z.

shadoquad 10-25-2012 09:12 PM

I've had a great run with my Z car. I have a 2010. I modded to address the oil issue. It's not a problem for me. Every car has its foibles. There is no perfect car. Enjoy what you have.

Jordo! 10-25-2012 09:39 PM

For the money, you really can't beat the latest Z as a pure sports car in terms of looks, performance, and feel.

Part of me yearns for a Z4, but the one I want costs nearly twice as much as the Z -- can't swing that right now. Same rationale applies to a Cayman, although I personally don't want one.

Everything else is either a 4-door rally car, a muscle car, no longer in production, or only modestly powered (TBH, a nice way of saying "severely underpowered").

onzedge 10-25-2012 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaleForce (Post 1981405)
:iagree:

:iagree: :iagree:

FlawlessZ 10-25-2012 09:56 PM

I love my Z. Lemon it get your money back.

PluckyPurcell 10-25-2012 10:17 PM

I've got a 2011 Roadster with 11K miles so far with (knock on wood) zero problems. No issues at all. It's a fun, reliable, value-packed sports car. Had an '07 350 Roadster and the 370 is soooo much better. I love my Z. Just my $.02

Magic Bus 10-25-2012 10:21 PM

Not really sure what your vent is about? Any specific issues with your car?

axmea? 10-25-2012 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6MT (Post 1981388)
IMHO, the Z shouldn't be a convertible.

Tell that to our forum brothers and sisters with convertibles.

brucelidat 10-25-2012 11:31 PM

the only problem on the Z that i think is a big deal is the fuel starve since it's not easy to fix. Oil coolers solve oil temp issues and I have a 2011 so oil consumption isn't a problem.

binary0x01 10-25-2012 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6MT (Post 1981388)
IMHO, the Z shouldn't be a convertible.

^ This...

binary0x01 10-25-2012 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlawlessZ (Post 1981692)
I love my Z. Lemon it get your money back.

I know you love your Z. I do as well. I saw and heard you flooring it on the 101 South today lol. I'm pretty sure it was you. around 5:15PM

Telephone 10-26-2012 01:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lachap55 (Post 1981453)
Cars can be moded, upgraded, changed, tuned, made prefect if you put time and money into them. On the other hand...WOMEN, well. I am not crying but they could have done a better job on some of these issues. I did say I was just venting.

Yes, you did say you were venting. And I understand that you've encountered many issues already with the car...I'd be upset too. That's why I made my 2012 comment because many of the issues had been sorted out by then. The woman comment wasn't particularly for you actually.

Don't give up on Nissan just yet. Many of the Z issues would not have been uncovered during the developement and primary testing phases. We're all long term test drivers if you think about it. I know it's frustrating, but even Nasa and Lockheed f*** up sometimes.

FlawlessZ 10-26-2012 01:57 AM

Lmao
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by binary0x01 (Post 1981836)
I know you love your Z. I do as well. I saw and heard you flooring it on the 101 South today lol. I'm pretty sure it was you. around 5:15PM

Yeah that must have been me. Hahaha where were you? I think I did see a MB before the 405...I was really looking forward to driving home with the nice weather today.;)

edub370 10-26-2012 11:45 AM

Honda (S2000), Pontiac (solstice), Chrysler (crossfire), Saturn (sky)

save for the s2000(which is great) the other 3 are not great cars. the crossfire was the worst looking, feeling, performing thing to ever be called a "sports car" i have ever seen. s2000 bit the dust after a 6+ year run. honda is to blame for not carrying out that car. solstice and sky... meh... cheap little toy cars. miata-ish.

the s2000 is the only real sports car u mentioned there

m4a1mustang 10-26-2012 11:46 AM

S2000 is sweet.

But.. if you want GT car amenities in your convertible sports car its not a good choice.

PaulZ370 10-26-2012 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brucelidat (Post 1981827)
the only problem on the Z that i think is a big deal is the fuel starve since it's not easy to fix. Oil coolers solve oil temp issues and I have a 2011 so oil consumption isn't a problem.

Neither case is a problem unless you track the car...

I have friends with 370Z that drive their Z's hard - No fuel starvation issues, no overheating into limp mode issues. Their vehicles range from 09's thru '011 (mine), and we all go out, have fun, do some pretty spirited driving, and (knock on wood) none of us have had any of these issues come up.

My advice: If you plan on making the Z Race Track ready, then you need to upgrade your brakes, install an oil cooler, upgrade your sway bars, upgrade your springs, make sure your tires are competition grade, upgrade the fuel system so you do go into fuel starvation mode while racing with very low fuel in the tank...

Otherwise, for a Sports Car, the 370Z is fun, an eye catcher/head turner, and a pleasure to drive... worth every penny I spent on purchasing her and upgrading her into the toy she is now.

I am very happy and satisfied enormously with my purchase - Thanks NISSAN for a superior Sports Car, as the Z has been since the S30 took over the Car markets and changed the way Sports Cars are made, thought of, and loved by their owners.

m4a1mustang 10-26-2012 06:01 PM

Limp mode and fuel starve CAN happen on the street... depends on how hard you push it.

PaulZ370 10-26-2012 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1983794)
... depends on how hard you push it.

:iagree:

...At that point, would you be driving the 370Z as a Sports Car, or a Track Car, on the street?

m4a1mustang 10-26-2012 06:31 PM

A little too hard! About the only "acceptable" place on the street to push the car hard enough to get fuel starve is an isolated on/off ramp.

binary0x01 10-26-2012 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1983817)
A little too hard! About the only "acceptable" place on the street to push the car hard enough to get fuel starve is an isolated on/off ramp.

On ramp... uphill, gives my girl a tingle every time, results are great...

BrianMSmith 10-26-2012 09:04 PM

Another very happy Z owner here, 57k miles, perfect car. In 5 years when I'm much richer, I'll do an R8, maybe a cayman R, or GTR, but for my $37500 for a brand new 09 with all options, I couldn't be happier with the performance, quality, and value.

brucelidat 10-26-2012 09:43 PM

The oil temps issue is pretty much universally known so if you're looking to buy this car, you already know about it and have it planned for so that's not a big issue to me. You can't buy a car then complain about an easily fixable issue that you already knew about before buying the car. If you didn't know about it, then you really have done zero research and deserve it.

lachap55 10-27-2012 01:44 PM

Let me correct you sir. The 2010 Z is the first car by Nissans that an oil temperature gauge and limp mode was installed. Limp mode comes on when the temperature hits 280 degrees. If you research these events you find owners complaining of high temperatures in hot weather, stuck in traffic, spirited driving and oh yeah track use. If you research this sir you find that Nissan's prototype vehicles were fitted with oil coolers and other modes so that the car would not go into to limp mode during testing. So they knew of the problem, but the early consumers did not, and Nissan did not provide options to add and oil cooler to 2010-11 models. In my original post I did not complain of owning a Z(I LOVE THIS CAR) I did not say I was experiencing any of the problems outlined in that post. I sympathized with Z owners that were having these problems and was just venting and hoping that none of these problems happens to my Z. let me reiterate, I LOVE THIS CAR.

scope22 10-27-2012 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by binary0x01 (Post 1983959)
On ramp... uphill, gives my girl a tingle every time, results are great...

yea...i have the same problem, my right hand tingles too...:nutswinger:

alcheng 10-27-2012 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6MT (Post 1981388)
IMHO, the Z shouldn't be a convertible.

:icon14:

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaleForce (Post 1981405)
:iagree:

:icon14: :eek:

Quote:

Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 1981653)
:iagree: :iagree:

:icon14: :eek: :icon14:

Quote:

Originally Posted by binary0x01 (Post 1981831)
^ This...

:icon14: :eek: :icon14: :eek:




What's wrong with the Z Roadster??? :confused:

I bought the 350 because they have roadster.....

I switch to 370 because of the roadster....

http://www.the370z.com/members/alche...ure47616-a.jpg

http://www.the370z.com/members/alche...ure47627-a.jpg

Magic Bus 10-27-2012 04:55 PM

:icon18: Nice! Your rims look great.

alcheng 10-27-2012 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magic Bus (Post 1984925)
:icon18: Nice! Your rims look great.

:tiphat: Thank you :icon17:


Roadster racist is not allowed in here :shakes head: :gtfo2:

:bowrofl: :bowrofl: :bowrofl:

Hbomb 10-28-2012 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lachap55 (Post 1984743)
Let me correct you sir. The 2010 Z is the first car by Nissans that an oil temperature gauge and limp mode was installed. Limp mode comes on when the temperature hits 280 degrees. If you research these events you find owners complaining of high temperatures in hot weather, stuck in traffic, spirited driving and oh yeah track use. If you research this sir you find that Nissan's prototype vehicles were fitted with oil coolers and other modes so that the car would not go into to limp mode during testing. So they knew of the problem, but the early consumers did not, and Nissan did not provide options to add and oil cooler to 2010-11 models. In my original post I did not complain of owning a Z(I LOVE THIS CAR) I did not say I was experiencing any of the problems outlined in that post. I sympathized with Z owners that were having these problems and was just venting and hoping that none of these problems happens to my Z. let me reiterate, I LOVE THIS CAR.

So Let me get this straight... you are venting because a minority of owners have had niggles on a car? :rofl2:

Every car has issues. EVERY CAR. Go look at 135i forums, or even better cayman forums. Ever heard of IMS issues? Think oil temps are bad? Imagine spending 65k on your new cayman s to find out that you have to crack open the block to update your IMS, or sit waiting until it goes out? And best yet, if you want to update it before it goes out, your looking 7k ish just in labor. And if goes out when your out of warranty? Watch out!

Check out the new golf r20 guys who's clutches are going out in the first 10k miles? Or my old 2010 GTI that 2 of my fuel injectors exploded at 8500 miles? (no mods at all bye the way). 2011 Mustang 5.0's with number 8 piston issues, or transmissions exploding.

/end rant
Every car has issues. The VQ is one of the best motors on the planet for a reason. Their is no "perfect car" mechanically. No one post on the forums just to say how great their motor is running. People post when something breaks.

Shamu 10-28-2012 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6MT (Post 1981388)
IMHO, the Z shouldn't be a convertible.

I agree t top or nothing!

SS_Firehawk 10-28-2012 03:05 PM

And here I thought this thread was about venting as in vented hoods and the like... I can pop popcorn in my engine bay it gets so hot.

Z370Z011 10-28-2012 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hbomb (Post 1985732)
The VQ is one of the best motors on the planet for a reason.

I know they are great engines but Is it really considered one of the best engines ever built?.. No sarcasm or anything.
Just a cool fact i guess i never knew.. Makes me love my car even more. Haha :D

SouthArk370Z 10-28-2012 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z370Z011 (Post 1986079)
I know they are great engines but Is it really considered one of the best engines ever built?.. No sarcasm or anything.
Just a cool fact i guess i never knew.. Makes me love my car even more. Haha :D

It's a fantastic little engine for my DD, but, obviously, he/she has never driven a big-block V8 (or stood next to one when it was idling). :stirthepot: :p

Hbomb 10-28-2012 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z (Post 1986084)
It's a fantastic little engine for my DD, but, obviously, he/she has never driven a big-block V8 (or stood next to one when it was idling). :stirthepot: :p

"The VQ is a V6 piston engine produced by Nissan with displacements varying from 2.0 L to 4.0 L. It is an aluminum block DOHC 4-valve design with aluminum heads. It is fitted with Nissan's EGI/ECCS sequential multi-point fuel injection (MPFI) system. Later versions feature various implementations of variable valve timing and replace MPFI with direct fuel injection (marketed as NEO-Di). The VQ series engine was honored by Ward's 10 Best Engines list almost every year from the list's inception. The VQ series replaced the VG series of engines"

Quote from a few diff websites. The VQ has always been recognized s a great motor. Didn't say it was the best on the planet, but universally it has been recognized to be a great motor. huge fan of the Terminator V8 and the new coyote's also (about the V8 comment). Best motor I have ever owned was the F20C in my s2000.

And as for the V8 comment, stupid assumption. I grew up in Kansas, all my friends and family were into V8's (cutlas 442's, etc) My second car was a 82 Monte Carlo with a swapped 350 (not a Rat, but I get it) I didnt get an import till my supra my senior year of high school.

SouthArk370Z 10-29-2012 08:38 AM

Hey, Hbomb. Lighten up. My "V8 comment" could justifiably be called snarky and sarcastic (maybe even silly) but where do you get stupid? Notice the smilies at the end of the comment - they are very important for interpreting tone.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:41 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2