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Let the soap and other crap leave the tires before gassing it a bit with the TRS turned off - lol... LOL I managed to kick the rear end out

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Old 07-02-2009, 10:54 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Note to self - after leaving car wash...

Let the soap and other crap leave the tires before gassing it a bit with the TRS turned off - lol...

LOL

I managed to kick the rear end out to a 45 (what I was aiming for), then it swung it back hard 90 degress to the other way (apparently input from the steering wheel is a lot more than what I'm used to), before it grabbed and launched me straight for the curb!

Nothing happened, but if it weren't for my VERY quick reflexes and having had a ton of experience with RWD cars and icy roads...lol

Lesson learned!




THis reminded me of another "pucker-factor" experience - a local gas station has an auto-washer attached that always drains down across the enterace. I was on my bike with the lady on back, getting gas, and I pulled in through that enterance. When my back tire came around again, it lost traction and skipped over about 4"! To be honest, I'm surprised I didn't lose it, but, I guess my reflexes saved our butts that time too - lol...

I don't go to that gas station much now - if I do, it's the other entrance that I use!
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Let the soap and other crap leave the tires before gassing it a bit with the TRS turned off - lol...
Nah, that's the best part of washing the car: burning off the leftover water/soap on the rear tires when launching out onto the street. You just gotta be ready for it, and nimble with the gas and the steering wheel
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Alright what? You over-corrected a slide almost into an effin curve and then you say you have "VERY quick reflexes and having had a ton of experience with RWD cars" and then you say lesson learned.

Yeah sounds like a LOT of experience. I hope you realize that makes no sense. Maybe you should drive with the TC on.... unless your car is graphite cause I need a new front bumper and sideskirts.
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Alright what? You over-corrected a slide almost into an effin curve and then you say you have "VERY quick reflexes and having had a ton of experience with RWD cars" and then you say lesson learned.

Yeah sounds like a LOT of experience. I hope you realize that makes no sense. Maybe you should drive with the TC on.... unless your car is graphite cause I need a new front bumper and sideskirts.
Quick reflexes kept me from doing a 180+ or ending up nose-first in a curb...

I was making a left turn across a 3 lane road (center turn lane), rear end swung out further than I anticipated (wasn't expecting it to lose traction to that extent), I attempted to turn it more into a power-slide to pull through it - it didn't react so I continued putting more right-turn on the wheel until it did (which is where I apparently over-corrected) and it snapped the rear end back to the left faster than I could have imagined...

I am not experienced with locking diffs, or as tight of steering as the Z...or the weight balance of the Z. So, yeah, on one hand, I am not that experienced, but on the other, I know what to do and how to compensate.

General experience vs "Z" experience...

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Wait.... so you overcorrected a slide at like 8MPH then?

No offense to you, but this is why you should keep the TC on instead of trying to be a cool guy. Do an accident avoidance course and a couple of driving courses where they teach you how to not do what you did. Until then, stop posting about your near accidents and your super-skills because you WILL get flamed.

Just get a chance to learn the car before you don't have a car to learn on anymore.

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Wait.... so you overcorrected a slide at like 8MPH then?

No offense to you, but this is why you should keep the TC on instead of trying to be a cool guy. Do an accident avoidance course and a couple of driving courses where they teach you how to not do what you did. Until then, stop posting about your near accidents and your super-skills because you WILL get flamed.

Just get a chance to learn the car before you don't have a car to learn on anymore.

Thanks for posting some entertainment.
What, is it your personal responsibility on the internet to flame people you view as "l3ss sup3r $kiLl3d" than you?

Get over yourself.
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I kinda thought the same thing as RCZ, I'm just not so, uhhh, direct about it But now that it's out there... extreme over-corrections like that is a sign that you need to learn how to control the car
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As with anything, you don't know your limits until you exceed them.

Apparently, I found a limit relating to the amount of available traction, and my expectations of what the input I was doing with the car, and the output it gave me.

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What, is it your personal responsibility on the internet to flame people you view as "l3ss sup3r $kiLl3d" than you?

Get over yourself.
Yes, you actually nailed it. It is in fact my personal responsibility on the internet to flame people whom I view as being "l3ss sup3r $kiLl3d" than I. You just keep giving me ammo and I thank you for that, however I think I'm just saying what everyone else is thinking without being coy.

I love this forum for all the info and good folks in it, but its a joint effort to keep at least a slight hint of substance in the threads. AK can't yell at you because you've done nothing wrong, but I have no affiliation with the forums other than being a member and that gives me the right to say whats on my mind. There's been a huge (and growing) number of ridiculous nonsensical threads popping up lately and I'm frankly just tired of sifting through the crap to get to the worthwhile ones.

I dont mean to speak for anybody else, but I have a feeling that I am, when I say that nobody cares about how you almost crashed your car leaving a deserted car wash in the middle of the night. I wasn't going to jump in until you said your "quick reflexes and experience" are what saved you, when in fact it was the lack-there-of that got you into that mess. The only thing that saved you was space, luck and low speed. Try those shennanigans at pace and I will be the first in line for the part out.

I'm not singling you out because I dont like you... I dont know you, you may be a cool guy, but people please stop posting junk , no one cares... about who called you out in a parking lot or how many SRT-4's want to race you on a daily basis.

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Yes, you actually nailed it. It is in fact my personal responsibility on the internet to flame people whom I view as being "l3ss sup3r $kiLl3d" than I. You just keep giving me ammo and I thank you for that, however I think I'm just saying what everyone else is thinking without being coy.

I love this forum for all the info and good folks in it, but its a joint effort to keep at least a slight hint of substance in the threads. AK can't yell at you because you've done nothing wrong, but I have no affiliation with the forums other than being a member and that gives me the right to say whats on my mind. There's been a huge (and growing) number of ridiculous nonsensical threads popping up lately and I'm frankly just tired of sifting through the crap to get to the worthwhile ones.

I dont mean to speak for anybody else, but I have a feeling that I am, when I say that nobody cares about how you almost crashed your car leaving a deserted car wash in the middle of the night. I wasn't going to jump in until you said your "quick reflexes and experience" are what saved you, when in fact it was the lack-there-of that got you into that mess. The only thing that saved you was space, luck and low speed. Try those shennanigans at pace and I will be the first in line for the part out.

I'm not singling you out because I dont like you... I dont know you, you may be a cool guy, but people please stop posting junk , no one cares... about who called you out in a parking lot or how many SRT-4's want to race you on a daily basis.

BTW: Are we allowed to call dibs on part outs before they happen? if so DIBS!
RCZ - you have some really informative posts, and I really appreciate a lot of your passion about vehicles and driving, but from an outside perspective, you're way out of line here.

If you don't like wasting time, don't post (repeatedly) about a timewasting thread. The internet is a timewaster, in case you haven't noticed, and internet skillls *always* involve separating the wheat from the chaff. Personally, what's hard for me to read is someone drilling something when they have no idea where they're coming from.

And sorry to say it, but you're projecting way too much onto this guy. He didn't say he was some jackass street-racer, nor was he crowing about his crazzzy exploits. He just had a moment where he jumped on the throttle on soapy tires and the car got out of hand - and he shared about it on a board where people share about car stuff. If reading about it isn't your cup of tea, fine - skip to the next thread. I'll bet that any person on here doesn't care about at least 50% of the threads on here (including threads on how to set up their car for the track). That's because people are different.

From the outside, you're the one who comes across as a showoff, trying to act like you have never made a mistake on the street, or talking down to them about attending driving classes (which, again, is a way for you to emphasize your mad skillz).

And I hate to tell you, but it actually isn't your responsibility to sanitize the boards for everyone else. Some people aren't on here for the same reasons you are. I have taken driving classes, and I do try to keep it safe on the street, but I could totally see being stoked on my clean wheels, juicing the throttle, and getting a bit sideways. I'd like to assume that wouldn't be 45 degrees sideways, but then I'm not going to judge a street or a situation that I don't have a clue about.

Anyway, I'm sure I'll get flamed back. I just think you seem to view yourself as some kind of cop trying to check other people, and I think you might want to check yourself on this one and apologize.
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RCZ - you have some really informative posts, and I really appreciate a lot of your passion about vehicles and driving, but from an outside perspective, you're way out of line here.

If you don't like wasting time, don't post (repeatedly) about a timewasting thread. The internet is a timewaster, in case you haven't noticed, and internet skillls *always* involve separating the wheat from the chaff. Personally, what's hard for me to read is someone drilling something when they have no idea where they're coming from.

And sorry to say it, but you're projecting way too much onto this guy. He didn't say he was some jackass street-racer, nor was he crowing about his crazzzy exploits. He just had a moment where he jumped on the throttle on soapy tires and the car got out of hand - and he shared about it on a board where people share about car stuff. If reading about it isn't your cup of tea, fine - skip to the next thread. I'll bet that any person on here doesn't care about at least 50% of the threads on here (including threads on how to set up their car for the track). That's because people are different.

From the outside, you're the one who comes across as a showoff, trying to act like you have never made a mistake on the street, or talking down to them about attending driving classes (which, again, is a way for you to emphasize your mad skillz).

And I hate to tell you, but it actually isn't your responsibility to sanitize the boards for everyone else. Some people aren't on here for the same reasons you are. I have taken driving classes, and I do try to keep it safe on the street, but I could totally see being stoked on my clean wheels, juicing the throttle, and getting a bit sideways. I'd like to assume that wouldn't be 45 degrees sideways, but then I'm not going to judge a street or a situation that I don't have a clue about.

Anyway, I'm sure I'll get flamed back. I just think you seem to view yourself as some kind of cop trying to check other people, and I think you might want to check yourself on this one and apologize.

You could not have said it any better.
My thoughts exactly.

People continue to post all your 370 stories.
There will always be someone that finds your story intriguing and want to read it. To each his own.
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Next time just tell everyone you were doing the " Finish Flick ".
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Next time just tell everyone you were doing the " Finish Flick ".
That's pretty funny.
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