Nissan has the worst clearcoat and thin paint!

Z_ealot · 10-11-2012, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Streetlife

To the OP, i and others here are trying to help, but if you think that just waxing alone with a couple washes a month will take care of everything your going to be let down by every car manufacturer due to the environment (without a garage you will have to maintenance the exterior more, quick detailer or spray wash and a nice ultra soft microfiber towel). I went off topic as you say, because i was incorporating what i know as a professional car detailer to help remedy your problem. I and other people who care about the aesthetics of the vehicle as well as keeping them in the best condition possible know there's work involved to keep vehicles in pristine condition. All paint jobs from a car manufacturer will have some orange peel and minor defects. I ordered my 370Z and she still had a couple light scratches ( i am the only one who's ever touched her), but out of all the cars i've detailed she had the least amount of defects, including a Lexus LFA with the paper still on it. It is well known that every brand new car should have a clearbra done within the first week, after of course receiving full paint correction and protection, nothing worse than putting a clearbra over chips or pits, good luck.

about the same time of ownership as the OP on mine and its stored outside, it's a PIA but i full detail and wax my Z every 2 to 3 months and have yet to see any defects besides tiny chips here and there since i dont have a clearbra. of course i went in already knowing about the paint quality on our Z's and what i would have to do to keep the paint looking good, just goes to show you a little beforehand research goes a long way before deciding to purchase a $35,000 car as OP says.

Streetlife · 10-11-2012, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Z_ealot

about the same time of ownership as the OP on mine and its stored outside, it's a PIA but i full detail and wax my Z every 2 to 3 months and have yet to see any defects besides tiny chips here and there since i dont have a clearbra. of course i went in already knowing about the paint quality on our Z's and what i would have to do to keep the paint looking good, just goes to show you a little beforehand research goes a long way before deciding to purchase a $35,000 car as OP says.

kidkotic2001 · 10-11-2012, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ssmoked

I bought my 2011 370z 16 month ago with currently 22k miles. I put up with dozens of rock chips, ease of paint being scratched....but i found this today

its to the point the paint is flaking off bc the clearcoat is gone.

i took it to a small dealership, and they blamed me, or the enviroment, for eating through the paint.

I have owned 1 american and 3 different japanese makes of cars and motorcycles, this has never happened!

I do park my car outside, but I highly doubt the sun could do this in 16 month.

Anyone experienced this with their Z? Any suggestions about how i should deal with this with the dealership?

thanks in advance

I know exactly how you feel I owned a 350z and two 370z and all of them had crappy paint and clear coats. Three months after I got my 2012 Z i got a chip it is crazy. The dealer is not going to do anything about your paint job they will tel you to stop tailgating or what not. My car was garaged just recently moved out of my home so now my car is outside.

Cmike2780 · 10-11-2012, 11:41 AM

The paints is terrible and swirls so damn easily. It's even more noticeable on my car because its black. Kind of sad how my Civic seems to have better paint than my Z.

Nitex · 10-11-2012, 11:42 AM

Agreed the paint is horrible... So many rock chips, I would have clear bra'd had I known.

2011 Nismo#91 · 10-11-2012, 12:04 PM

Yeah paint it terrible, I don't know when car makers changed to worse paints and clear coats but I had an '05 Hyundai outside for almost 6 years and no paint issues. And a 97 Camaro pretty as well outside for 8 years with no issues either and never did anything but the occasional automatic car wash and wax. Yes there were swirls and the unavoidable chips too. But this car after only 6k miles has almost as many chips as my hyundai did in 6 years and 60k miles.
I would have gotten a clear bra too but in the NYC area everyone assumes you have money and wants 5-6k or so to do the full clear bra and 2-3k to do the bar minimum. Id rather get a full paint job in 5 years for those prices.

shadoquad · 10-11-2012, 12:18 PM

Yep, you would have to be an idiot to pay extra for a specific paint color for this cheap, thin paint.

<----------- just

myself

onzedge · 10-11-2012, 12:32 PM

I do not think it is Nissan paint in general that sucks -- it is the Z's paint. The nose of my 370 looks like the lunar surface up close and at sunrise.

Meanwhile, my 2012 Juke, which now has 10,000 miles -- is flawless; not one chip on the entire vehicle.

Go figure.

JungleZ · 10-11-2012, 02:47 PM

Worst paint in the business, worst pearl white ever. How can Nissan even think this pearl white is close to Acura or Lexus...

Vertigo · 10-11-2012, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by JungleZ

Worst paint in the business, worst pearl white ever. How can Nissan even think this pearl white is close to Acura or Lexus...

+1
I have a white VW R32 that I use for a daily driver and I don't have any chips on the hood.
My Z is half as old with half as many miles and the hood is peppered with rock chips

overklok · 10-11-2012, 07:54 PM

The sloping hood line and low profile of Z cars contribute to the chipping, SUVs and other cars with grills and other front facing trim pieces get less chipping. Nissan's paint is no worse or better than other auto makers. I would be willing to guess most auto makers get their paints from companies like PPG.

jaycz · 10-11-2012, 08:00 PM

Yep, paint sucks.

Montez · 10-11-2012, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by onzedge

I do not think it is Nissan paint in general that sucks -- it is the Z's paint. The nose of my 370 looks like the lunar surface up close and at sunrise.

Meanwhile, my 2012 Juke, which now has 10,000 miles -- is flawless; not one chip on the entire vehicle.

Go figure.

Its horrible, since about 2000 Nissans paint on the Z and Max suck balls....Most Z's and Maxi's I see from 00 on for the Max and 03 for Z have sandblasted looking front ends.

LakeShow · 10-12-2012, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by JungleZ

Worst paint in the business, worst pearl white ever. How can Nissan even think this pearl white is close to Acura or Lexus...

The color is sexy as hell, but the quality is

DarkJak · 10-12-2012, 12:57 AM

The paint seems even weaker than our G37's, which is already known for weak paint. I took it from Knoxville to Nashville and back twice, and there are at least a dozen small chips in the front of the hood and bumper. My old 2006 Camry didn't have any of these issues, and I didn't start taking car of its paint until late 2010. I'm also getting discoloration (slightly green/yellow dots) from bugs or bird droppings. They are about 1mm wide. I'm actually considering repainting it further down the line.

10-11-2012, 11:41 AM	#34 (permalink)
Cmike2780 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 5,059 Drives: slowwww Rep Power: 29	The paints is terrible and swirls so damn easily. It's even more noticeable on my car because its black. Kind of sad how my Civic seems to have better paint than my Z. __________________ [09][MB][6-Spd MT][Touring][Stillen Gen III][K&N][Borla CBE][Evo-R] [ArchitTEK Photography]

10-11-2012, 11:42 AM	#35 (permalink)
Nitex Track Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Seattle Posts: 848 Drives: '13 GTI Stage 2 UNI Rep Power: 16	Agreed the paint is horrible... So many rock chips, I would have clear bra'd had I known. __________________ 2013 Drivers ED GTI \| Stage 2 Unitronic

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onzedge A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Battle Lake MN Age: 64 Posts: 183,964 Drives: 370Z 240Z Rep Power: 2684736	I do not think it is Nissan paint in general that sucks -- it is the Z's paint. The nose of my 370 looks like the lunar surface up close and at sunrise. Meanwhile, my 2012 Juke, which now has 10,000 miles -- is flawless; not one chip on the entire vehicle. Go figure. __________________ Koni\|Swift\|Michelin\|Motordyne\|Berk\|RJM Performance\|Gates\|SPL\|Motul\|Technafit\|Ate Super Blue\|Hawk Tommy Kaira\|Momo\|Optima\|Hella\|Hotchkis\|Red Line\|ZSpeed\|Stillen\|B&M\|H&R

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2011 Nismo#91 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: NJ Posts: 2,401 Drives: slowly Rep Power: 40569	Yeah paint it terrible, I don't know when car makers changed to worse paints and clear coats but I had an '05 Hyundai outside for almost 6 years and no paint issues. And a 97 Camaro pretty as well outside for 8 years with no issues either and never did anything but the occasional automatic car wash and wax. Yes there were swirls and the unavoidable chips too. But this car after only 6k miles has almost as many chips as my hyundai did in 6 years and 60k miles. I would have gotten a clear bra too but in the NYC area everyone assumes you have money and wants 5-6k or so to do the full clear bra and 2-3k to do the bar minimum. Id rather get a full paint job in 5 years for those prices.

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shadoquad A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: . Posts: 42,608 Drives: . Rep Power: 3886	Yep, you would have to be an idiot to pay extra for a specific paint color for this cheap, thin paint. <----------- just myself

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JungleZ Banned Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: orange county,ca Posts: 652 Drives: leased base z... Rep Power: 0	Worst paint in the business, worst pearl white ever. How can Nissan even think this pearl white is close to Acura or Lexus...

10-11-2012, 07:54 PM	#41 (permalink)
overklok Base Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Norther Va Posts: 11 Drives: 370z Nismo; TT Supra Rep Power: 13	The sloping hood line and low profile of Z cars contribute to the chipping, SUVs and other cars with grills and other front facing trim pieces get less chipping. Nissan's paint is no worse or better than other auto makers. I would be willing to guess most auto makers get their paints from companies like PPG.

10-11-2012, 08:00 PM	#42 (permalink)
jaycz Base Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Oregon Posts: 189 Drives: 09 370z Tour Red 6MT Rep Power: 15	Yep, paint sucks.

10-12-2012, 12:57 AM	#45 (permalink)
DarkJak A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 1,397 Drives: 2009 370Z Rep Power: 16804	The paint seems even weaker than our G37's, which is already known for weak paint. I took it from Knoxville to Nashville and back twice, and there are at least a dozen small chips in the front of the hood and bumper. My old 2006 Camry didn't have any of these issues, and I didn't start taking car of its paint until late 2010. I'm also getting discoloration (slightly green/yellow dots) from bugs or bird droppings. They are about 1mm wide. I'm actually considering repainting it further down the line.