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mardigras 11-17-2012 06:37 PM

It seems the AIT seems to be about 10% less of whatever the outside temp is due to the well designed oem airbox.. I would like to see what same readings would be on a open filter type...

CDepp 12-06-2012 11:57 AM

I'm going to verify this adapter works great with both my Samsung Galaxy S, Galaxy SII, and Viewsonic G-Tablet in terms of BT pairing and use of Torque.

cossie1600 12-06-2012 12:37 PM

Been using it for two years. First one was stolen at the dealership, now on my second one.

chrischhorn 01-27-2013 06:16 AM

Sorry to bring up a dead thread but I just started using this app and I had a question. I was monitoring my throttle % and noticed it never goes over 90%. 89.4% to be exact. Anyone else have this issue? I measured when in low RPMS and running the car hard to rev limiter.

Nailzs 01-27-2013 07:12 AM

I have an issue with gas mileage readings with Torque Pro. Torque Pro shows half the gas mileage the car's showing. I wrote the author about it but 2 updates it's still not resolved.

CDepp 01-27-2013 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nailzs (Post 2133014)
I have an issue with gas mileage readings with Torque Pro. Torque Pro shows half the gas mileage the car's showing. I wrote the author about it but 2 updates it's still not resolved.

There's two methods Torque uses, and several calculations, to determine gas consumption/mileage.

Make certain you have the curb weight (3232 I believe) and engine displacement (3.7) input properly. Make certain to have the tank size (22.82) input properly. Turn on Advanced Connect.

All that should be done in the profile for the vehicle.

Make certain "Don't calculate MPG/Fuel" is unchecked. Make certain "Use vehicle fuel level sensor" is checked.(unchecked by default - this is a real-time input for Torque to calculate gas mileage).

That should be done in the OBD2 Adapter Settings window.


I'm reading my vehicle perfectly on 3 devices. Hopefully you get yours going properly. GL!:tup:

Mandingo 01-27-2013 09:52 AM

I wouldn't put too much stock into most of the values Torque gives.

For example:

My commanded AFR reads 17.5:1 at WOT while the actual AFR reads 12.5 :1

I'm pretty sure the ecu isn't actually commanding 17.5:1 at WOT.

My throttle position never goes above 88.63%

Who knows, maybe doing a throttle re-learn procedure will fix that issue, but I think its just a problem with the app

Jsolo 01-27-2013 12:16 PM

Anyone have any success reading the nissan PID's with the generic obd readers? The newer version of the torque software has some beta support for this now.

Nailzs 01-27-2013 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDepp (Post 2133066)
There's two methods Torque uses, and several calculations, to determine gas consumption/mileage.

Make certain you have the curb weight (3232 I believe) and engine displacement (3.7) input properly. Make certain to have the tank size (22.82) input properly. Turn on Advanced Connect.

All that should be done in the profile for the vehicle.

Make certain "Don't calculate MPG/Fuel" is unchecked. Make certain "Use vehicle fuel level sensor" is checked.(unchecked by default - this is a real-time input for Torque to calculate gas mileage).

That should be done in the OBD2 Adapter Settings window.


I'm reading my vehicle perfectly on 3 devices. Hopefully you get yours going properly. GL!:tup:

Hmm.. according to the manual the gas tank holds 19 gallons.
I'll try the rest and see if it helps.

CDepp 01-27-2013 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nailzs (Post 2133188)
Hmm.. according to the manual the gas tank holds 19 gallons.
I'll try the rest and see if it helps.

GL!

ZMan8 01-27-2013 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jsolo (Post 2133176)
Anyone have any success reading the nissan PID's with the generic obd readers? The newer version of the torque software has some beta support for this now.

I haven't tried them yet.

Nailzs 01-28-2013 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDepp (Post 2133304)
GL!

Still reading 11.5 on MPG, Trip MPG, and MPG (avg) at any speed. Nothing changed. The sensors must be different in the 2013 Z. Even figuring on paper gasoline used to miles driven is twice what Torque Pro shows.

CDepp 01-28-2013 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nailzs (Post 2135635)
Still reading 11.5 on MPG, Trip MPG, and MPG (avg) at any speed. Nothing changed. The sensors must be different in the 2013 Z. Even figuring on paper gasoline used to miles driven is twice what Torque Pro shows.

Odd. I'm generally show 0.1 variation from what the display in the car shows. Are you certain you have the fuel sensor checked on in the adapter settings?

Nailzs 01-28-2013 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDepp (Post 2135786)
Odd. I'm generally show 0.1 variation from what the display in the car shows. Are you certain you have the fuel sensor checked on in the adapter settings?

Don't calculate MPG/Fuel is unchecked. Suggested by Torque's author, Enhanced MPG calculation is checked. Use vehicle fuel level sensor is checked.

CDepp 01-29-2013 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nailzs (Post 2135855)
Don't calculate MPG/Fuel is unchecked. Suggested by Torque's author, Enhanced MPG calculation is checked. Use vehicle fuel level sensor is checked.

I think I turned off the enhanced MPG calc. I'll have to check when I get home.

luigi90210 01-29-2013 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dastaco (Post 1949034)
I searched around the forum and didn't find anything related to this topic, so if its already here please direct me to it and yell at me for being terrible at the internet.


I recently picked up an Android app called Torque that syncs via blue tooth to an OBD2 connector and gives you the ability to do a ton of cool stuff on your phone. Currently I'm using to to notify me when my engine reaches operating temp and read/clear error codes... However I know i'm just scratching the surface of what this app can do.

Is anyone else out there using this app and do you have any nifty tips/tricks that you can pass on to the rest of us?

You can download the app at:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...l.torque&hl=en

I'm using this for my OBD2 connector with blue tooth.. thus far the thing has worked perfectly:

BAFX Products (TM) - ELM 327 Bluetooth OBD2 scan tool - For check engine light and other diagnostics - Android compatible : Amazon.com : Automotive

i have used it to monitor AFR and measure WHP(i dont know how accurate it is but i got 266@6400rpm, it didnt pick up the rest of the rpm range though)

oh and you can use it as a proper gas guage that uses an analog gauge(well digital analog)

cossie1600 02-12-2013 12:23 AM

FYI, racerender can capture the video straight from Torque now, you can use that to overlay with your own video should you decide not to use your phone.

roy'sz 02-12-2013 12:50 AM

Fyi throttle only opens 90%. Uprev corrects the throttle postion...or so I have been told. I love the app....use it everynight on the way home. I dont have the afr function on my phone, is that only for the paid version?

dastaco 02-12-2013 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roy'sz (Post 2160862)
Fyi throttle only opens 90%. Uprev corrects the throttle postion...or so I have been told. I love the app....use it everynight on the way home. I dont have the afr function on my phone, is that only for the paid version?

I believe so.

clumsy 04-05-2013 02:36 PM

here another great recording/OBD-app: DriveDeck https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...edeckdemo.home

You can use e.g. Racerender for the overlays. Within the app it looks like this:
Porsche 911 onroad performance with DriveDeck Sport - YouTube

ZMan8 04-05-2013 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clumsy (Post 2252834)
here another great recording/OBD-app: DriveDeck https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...edeckdemo.home

You can use e.g. Racerender for the overlays. Within the app it looks like this:
Porsche 911 onroad performance with DriveDeck Sport - YouTube

look very similar to torque :tup:

bdavis89 04-05-2013 03:32 PM

Sub'd, would like to try this and have birthday money burning a hole in my pocket!

roy'sz 04-05-2013 04:47 PM

$35 for plxkiwi on amazon and $5 for the app....totally worth it.

Jsolo 04-05-2013 06:02 PM

^^Got a link? I don't see anything that cheap on amazon (other than the generics).

roy'sz 04-05-2013 06:19 PM

BAFX Products (TM) - ELM 327 Bluetooth OBD2 scan tool - For check engine light and other diagnostics - Android compatible:Amazon:Automotive

There u go!

Jsolo 04-05-2013 06:37 PM

That's not a plx kiwi. I suppose if it works for you great. I had tried a few other generic ones with poor results. Ended up getting the real plx kiwi BT.

roy'sz 04-05-2013 06:42 PM

Works great for me!

ZMan8 04-05-2013 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jsolo (Post 2253172)
That's not a plx kiwi. I suppose if it works for you great. I had tried a few other generic ones with poor results. Ended up getting the real plx kiwi BT.

:iagree: the more expensive ones are stronger connections and refresh rate is much quicker. They can also send more pids than the cheaper units. I have the the obdlink mx its pretty much spot on with 0 lag.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using Tapatalk 2

bdavis89 04-05-2013 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZMan8 (Post 2253186)
:iagree: the more expensive ones are stronger connections and refresh rate is much quicker. They can also send more pids than the cheaper units. I have the the obdlink mx its pretty much spot on with 0 lag.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using Tapatalk 2

Link?

Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2

cossie1600 04-05-2013 07:57 PM

That's what I use, great product except I had one stolen at the dealership when I left it plugged in and I lost another one. I am on my third arggg..

This is how fast it refreshes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eK1qy9m1R8M

ZMan8 04-05-2013 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bdavis89 (Post 2253219)
Link?

Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B006NZTZLQ

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using Tapatalk 2

cheshirecat 04-06-2013 05:22 PM

I personally can't recommend the PLX Kiwi enough. It's not cheap, but 70 bucks being the difference between questionable feedback and fast feedback 100% of the time is a no-brainer for me personally.

PLX Devices Kiwi Bluetooth Wireless Trip Computer and OBDII Scanner : Amazon.com : Automotive

Plus, you can always keep it and use it in your next car.

Mandingo 04-14-2013 04:24 PM

Is anyone able to completely remove the GPS position parameter from being logged during data logging? I've turned it off in the options but it still takes up 3 columns with xyz position data

steveg78 04-14-2013 08:23 PM

Guys, anyone looking for a PLX Kiwi Bluetooth I have one in perfect working order for $80 s/h picked up by me. I switched to an iPhone a while ago and iOS requires the kiwi wifi (not Bluetooth). Don't mess around with the cheaper devices, they don't transmit data fast enough (I saw lag on my readings using Torque) and the connections are quirky. Take mine off my hands and don't ever worry about silly problems! I posted it in the FS forum a few weeks ago but no bites.

BTW - Torque and most othe OBDII apps are written to work with the Kiwi.

bdavis89 04-15-2013 08:35 PM

370z Vehicle Profile
 
Alright guys, just got my OBDII reader and purchased torque...What are the settings for the Vehicle Profile for the 370z?

Engine Displacement (liters): 3.7
Total Vehicle Weight (driver, fuel, etc): ?3400?
Fuel Type: Petrol
Fuel tank capacity: 19 US Gallons
Boost Adjustment: 0.0
Mqax dial RPM: 7500
Volumetric Efficiency %: 85%

I'm really unsure about the Vehicle Weight. What are the weights for the various trims, plus gas?

I will update this post with correct values as we go...so far, with the settings above, I've calculated 304hp at peak, with a 0-60 time of 5.2 seconds.

cheshirecat 04-16-2013 10:08 AM

Come on man, you can google that. Just go a little bit down the page.

2009-2013 Nissan 370Z - Top Speed

armbar3 06-18-2013 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZMan8 (Post 1949054)
well then you have the full feature set, I listed off the features in my review but to summarize some of the most useful I have found are AFR ratio, coolant temps, intake air temperature, 0-60 times, data logging the most useful. and I use the video app for torque that allows you to overlay any gauges over of the video.

It's a feature rich app. You can create custom PID's but you will have to search how to. I use the preprogrammed ones and have had good results. while at WOT i like to see AFR, revs, coolant temps, IAT on one screen. Another useful thing to track would be timing.

Does the torque app display oil temp on the Z?

Nailzs 06-19-2013 05:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by armbar3 (Post 2369380)
Does the torque app display oil temp on the Z?

Not on my Z. It's not available.

Kamari 08-28-2013 02:17 PM

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I didn't realize this thread lived on. WOW! lol. I kinda forgot to come back and post photos of my install. Well, here they are

I pulled the cubby door out. Had to pop off a few things to get there. It was much simpler than I thought it would be. I followed a thread here about stereo removal. **DEFINITELY USE A RAG TO COVER THE SCREWDRIVER WHEN YOU PRY THE RING FROM AROUND THE SHIFTER**
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This was the view after I pulled the cubby out. I don't have pics here but I dismantled the spring-loaded hinge. I'd recommend you take photos step by step if you ever plan on getting the hinge back in place. It's a bit of a mess.
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Cubby door with hinge removed
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I took a regular tablet protective case and flipped the cover over to the back (I guess you could just cut the cover, but I flipped it just so I could keep using it as a regular protector should I ever take all of this back apart). I took some vinyl (from Hobby Lobby, $8 for 2 square yards) and cut slits where the feet are for the tablet protector. Stretched the vinyl around the back of the cubby and held it with mini clamps while the gorilla glue I used dried.
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Finished version after glue dried and before I hooked everything back together
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This is what it looks like without the tablet mounted
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Eventually I'll pull it back out and mod it to hide the charger cord behind the dash, but right now that's proving to be a bigger challenge than originally thought. I'll post pics whenever I get around to doing that.

critical 08-28-2013 04:07 PM

use torque to log data every day. wish i could get transmission temp, oil pressure and oil temp.


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