Driving with VDC off....

NBZ34 · 10-04-2012, 02:15 PM

Having it off definitely helps on the 1/4 mile track

UNKNOWN_370 · 10-04-2012, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaleForce

I pick and choose when I disable VDC. Rain, it is always on. Nice day, warm tires, nobody around... VDC off.

Chuck33079 · 10-04-2012, 03:13 PM

Mine's only on when it rains.

icormba · 10-04-2012, 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gbrettin

Someone menttioned breaking the tires loose in third... How the hell does that happen? WOT w/ turbo and a 90 degree corner?

I have done this as well just merging on to the freeway... with VDC ON.

UNKNOWN_370 · 10-04-2012, 07:03 PM

With vdc off, the Z feels almost Live axle dangerous, and I love it. When vdc goes back on, it's really predictable and well behaved, yet, tires will still spin, Your tail can still break loose in the corners etc. Just if you do not perfectly apply throttle and hit it too early or too late in the turn, you will feel the vdc seriously cut power to a highly annoying level.

invader19 · 10-05-2012, 04:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Just if you do not perfectly apply throttle and hit it too early or too late in the turn, you will feel the vdc seriously cut power to a highly annoying level.

I just got my Z...Is this why I think it's sluggish for a 320HP car?

wstar · 10-05-2012, 08:00 AM

The unadulterated bottom line: the better you learn to drive, the more you should leave it off. VDC doesn't exist because the car is unstable, it exists because most drivers suck at driving cars. However even VDC can't defy the laws of physics. If you refuse to learn to drive the car and rely on VDC to save you, eventually you'll put yourself in a situation where it can't (if you're pushing the car at all).

robones · 10-05-2012, 08:32 AM

preach on brotha!

Compdoc777 · 10-05-2012, 08:49 AM

I have found that my Nismo stock Yokohama tires the VDC would activate normally I Could feel the limitation of the sucky stock tires. With my new ADVAN Neovas Yokohama my tires are not breaking loose or even close to it and my VDC is nagging me. Almost like it was trained if you hit a corner at such and angle it cuts the power. VDC off no problems car corners like its on rails no better than that a mag lev.

Also when I launch VDC sucks have to kill that to even get a good launch it starts nagging as soon as you hit the gas. Off and it launches perfectly and no wheel spin. I am wondering if there is an adjustment for this nagging there has to be. I am surprised we don't have different sport modes. Sport, race, ice... That way we could still have a little VDC, with out disabling it entirely.

cossie1600 · 10-05-2012, 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wstar

The unadulterated bottom line: the better you learn to drive, the more you should leave it off. VDC doesn't exist because the car is unstable, it exists because most drivers suck at driving cars. However even VDC can't defy the laws of physics. If you refuse to learn to drive the car and rely on VDC to save you, eventually you'll put yourself in a situation where it can't (if you're pushing the car at all).

Look at the poll result, people don't care about not knowing how to drive

wstar · 10-05-2012, 10:16 AM

(I should add, since my last post was kind of ***-hole-ish: I had no idea how bad I sucked at driving cars until I started getting instruction at a track, and I still have a lot to learn myself. Knowing what you don't know is half the battle. Find an HPDE weekend near you and get out there and learn!)

SouthArk370Z · 10-05-2012, 10:39 AM

I leave mine on ... ever since that $19K+ repair bill. Knocked the right front wheel slam off of the car when I sideswiped a tree after losing control.

Yeah. I know. A better driver could have handled it.

lemon-fresh · 10-05-2012, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by invader19

I just got my Z...Is this why I think it's sluggish for a 320HP car?

If you already feel this way I would highly recommend being proactive and taking a look at the 5.0 or anything with a turbo.

Compdoc777 · 10-05-2012, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wstar

(I should add, since my last post was kind of ***-hole-ish: I had no idea how bad I sucked at driving cars until I started getting instruction at a track, and I still have a lot to learn myself. Knowing what you don't know is half the battle. Find an HPDE weekend near you and get out there and learn!)

Do you go to the autcross here in Houston?

wstar · 10-05-2012, 01:00 PM

I did auto-x a couple times w/ the BMW-CCA, that was a while back now. Just haven't had time on the right weekends to squeeze one in between the $job, travel, HPDE weekends, and car maintenance stuff. Hopefully this next year I can do a few more. Frankly I enjoy the HPDE track stuff more than auto-x, but I would like to get back into hitting those. Good for working on traction skills, etc. Still, nothing beats hitting triple digits on long straights and then braking down into a tight hairpin and trying to get back out the other side without losing any more momentum than you have to

View Poll Results: Do you drive your Z with VDC off?
Never...VDC is always on.	75	28.41%
Sometimes....pick and choose spots to turn VDC off.	141	53.41%
Always...VDC is always off.	48	18.18%
Voters: 264. You may not vote on this poll

10-04-2012, 02:15 PM	#61 (permalink)
NBZ34 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: New Braunfels, TX Age: 54 Posts: 467 Drives: '12 Touring AT Sport Rep Power: 13	Having it off definitely helps on the 1/4 mile track __________________ *CHRIS* 開田 2012 370Z MB Touring/Sport/AT/Nav \| Takeda \| Fast Intentions \| SWIFT \| H&R \| UpRev \| Michelin PSS \|

10-05-2012, 08:00 AM	#67 (permalink)
wstar A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 4,024 Drives: too slow Rep Power: 3594	The unadulterated bottom line: the better you learn to drive, the more you should leave it off. VDC doesn't exist because the car is unstable, it exists because most drivers suck at driving cars. However even VDC can't defy the laws of physics. If you refuse to learn to drive the car and rely on VDC to save you, eventually you'll put yourself in a situation where it can't (if you're pushing the car at all). ChrisSlicks, kenny's 370z and 1991Z32 like this. __________________ 7AT Track Car! Journal thread / Car setup details

10-05-2012, 10:16 AM	#71 (permalink)
wstar A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 4,024 Drives: too slow Rep Power: 3594	(I should add, since my last post was kind of ***-hole-ish: I had no idea how bad I sucked at driving cars until I started getting instruction at a track, and I still have a lot to learn myself. Knowing what you don't know is half the battle. Find an HPDE weekend near you and get out there and learn!) ChrisSlicks likes this. __________________ 7AT Track Car! Journal thread / Car setup details

10-05-2012, 01:00 PM	#75 (permalink)
wstar A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 4,024 Drives: too slow Rep Power: 3594	I did auto-x a couple times w/ the BMW-CCA, that was a while back now. Just haven't had time on the right weekends to squeeze one in between the $job, travel, HPDE weekends, and car maintenance stuff. Hopefully this next year I can do a few more. Frankly I enjoy the HPDE track stuff more than auto-x, but I would like to get back into hitting those. Good for working on traction skills, etc. Still, nothing beats hitting triple digits on long straights and then braking down into a tight hairpin and trying to get back out the other side without losing any more momentum than you have to __________________ 7AT Track Car! Journal thread / Car setup details

10-04-2012, 03:13 PM	#63 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	Mine's only on when it rains.

10-04-2012, 07:03 PM	#65 (permalink)
UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14858	With vdc off, the Z feels almost Live axle dangerous, and I love it. When vdc goes back on, it's really predictable and well behaved, yet, tires will still spin, Your tail can still break loose in the corners etc. Just if you do not perfectly apply throttle and hit it too early or too late in the turn, you will feel the vdc seriously cut power to a highly annoying level.

10-05-2012, 08:32 AM	#68 (permalink)
robones Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Miami Posts: 357 Drives: 2011 - Nissan 370 M6 Rep Power: 14	preach on brotha!

10-05-2012, 08:49 AM	#69 (permalink)
Compdoc777 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Cypress Posts: 277 Drives: 2011 Nismo #4 MB Rep Power: 14	I have found that my Nismo stock Yokohama tires the VDC would activate normally I Could feel the limitation of the sucky stock tires. With my new ADVAN Neovas Yokohama my tires are not breaking loose or even close to it and my VDC is nagging me. Almost like it was trained if you hit a corner at such and angle it cuts the power. VDC off no problems car corners like its on rails no better than that a mag lev. Also when I launch VDC sucks have to kill that to even get a good launch it starts nagging as soon as you hit the gas. Off and it launches perfectly and no wheel spin. I am wondering if there is an adjustment for this nagging there has to be. I am surprised we don't have different sport modes. Sport, race, ice... That way we could still have a little VDC, with out disabling it entirely.

10-05-2012, 10:39 AM	#72 (permalink)
SouthArk370Z Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 8,435 Drives: 2014 Challenger Rep Power: 324198	I leave mine on ... ever since that $19K+ repair bill. Knocked the right front wheel slam off of the car when I sideswiped a tree after losing control. Yeah. I know. A better driver could have handled it.

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