Any Sport Package Owners Wish They Bought the Nismo Instead?

bigdog1250 · 10-01-2012, 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadoquad

calling the brakes an epic fail is not completely true. The calipers and rotors are great and will stop these babies on a dime. The stock pads and fluid are not sufficient for a real beating, and they should have run some cooling vents to them. But the brakes themselves are quite good. Nissan simply cheaped out on the consumable parts and didn't provide proper cooling.

^+1

These brakes are great and stop HARD. Their only weakness is the stated above.

shadoquad · 10-01-2012, 11:25 AM

Also, I own neither sports nor Nismo (although I did upgrade to the akebono brakes thx to a raffle).

And I think that both are great cars. The sports pkg, base Z is your best performance for the buck, imo, but the Nismo is quite an extreme and wild Z. It always grabs my eye first in the lineup. I don't think that either constitutes a better or worse choice, it's just what fits whoever's preferences the best.

lemon-fresh · 10-01-2012, 11:28 AM

Z1 offers a pretty cool brake upgrade package.

Z1 370Z / G37 Brake Upgrade Package (Sport Models)

kidkotic2001 · 10-01-2012, 11:42 AM

I voted no.

But if the NISMO had all of the touring options, like Navi, leather, bluetooth, you know the works. I would have jumped on the NISMO.

KSFastah · 10-01-2012, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadoquad

calling the brakes an epic fail is not completely true. The calipers and rotors are great and will stop these babies on a dime. The stock pads and fluid are not sufficient for a real beating, and they should have run some cooling vents to them. But the brakes themselves are quite good. Nissan simply cheaped out on the consumable parts and didn't provide proper cooling.

/offtopic
The brakes DO work well...my complaint with them is that it doesn't take long under spirited driving for them to overheat and for fade to set in. You shouldn't be FORCED to upgrade the rotors, pads, lines and fluids to get high peformance braking from a car touted as having high peformance capability.

/ontopic
Still not interested in the added expense of the Nismo for the marginal gains in performance and (to my eyes anyway) silly ricer looks.

lemon-fresh · 10-01-2012, 12:10 PM

Impressed that you managed to overheat the breaks off the track... Or maybe I'm more scared than impressed.

wheee! · 10-01-2012, 12:31 PM

Not a Nismo fan... prefer the customized Sport/Touring setup myself....

nmjaxx9 · 10-01-2012, 01:21 PM

to each is his/her own still say the Nismo looks way better than SP. But looks arent everything right?

b1adesofcha0s · 10-01-2012, 01:42 PM

Even the base brakes are pretty good once you upgrade the pads/fluid. I put XP8's and RBF600 in mine and my braking is limited by my tires (RE050A's).

I ended up buying a used touring non-sport because that was the best I could afford at the time. While I do like the Nismo, I don't think I would have bought it even if I could afford it. Actually, if I were to do it all again I'd probably get a 5.0

shadoquad · 10-01-2012, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KSFastah

/offtopic
The brakes DO work well...my complaint with them is that it doesn't take long under spirited driving for them to overheat and for fade to set in. You shouldn't be FORCED to upgrade the rotors, pads, lines and fluids to get high peformance braking from a car touted as having high peformance capability.

You don't have to upgrade the rotors or lines.

All you have to upgrade is pads (less than 200 bucks, need to be replaced over time regardless) and fluid (20-30 bucks per bottle), and then all but extreme track driving should be covered.

I understand that's a headache, but it's not insurmountable.

b1adesofcha0s · 10-01-2012, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadoquad

You don't have to upgrade the rotors or lines.

All you have to upgrade is pads (less than 200 bucks, need to be replaced over time regardless) and fluid (20-30 bucks per bottle), and then all but extreme track driving should be covered.

I understand that's a headache, but it's not insurmountable.

Yeah and bump the pads cost to ~$400 and you'll be track ready.

Mt Tam I am · 10-01-2012, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadoquad

You don't have to upgrade the rotors or lines.

All you have to upgrade is pads (less than 200 bucks, need to be replaced over time regardless) and fluid (20-30 bucks per bottle), and then all but extreme track driving should be covered.

I understand that's a headache, but it's not insurmountable.

Pads and fluid yes but not $30 fluid. I tried DOT 4 and after 20 minutes at the track the fluid boiled. Dot 5.1 cost $75-120 but I lasted all day at the track. (A different track so I still want an apples to apples comparisson.)

Look at my signature to see all the extras but without anything, driving 10 seconds a lap slower, I could avoid brake fade with the stock set up. I can not imagine off track driving where police patrol and DOT 5.1 is needed.

OMGiGOTaZ · 10-01-2012, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

Even the base brakes are pretty good once you upgrade the pads/fluid. I put XP8's and RBF600 in mine and my braking is limited by my tires (RE050A's).

I ended up buying a used touring non-sport because that was the best I could afford at the time. While I do like the Nismo, I don't think I would have bought it even if I could afford it. Actually, if I were to do it all again I'd probably get a 5.0

5.0 don't go to the dark side!

johncy2000 · 10-01-2012, 07:58 PM

NISMO Z For Life!

b1adesofcha0s · 10-01-2012, 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OMGiGOTaZ

5.0 don't go to the dark side!

No need to worry, I don't have money to switch cars right now. So instead, I will track my Z until I can afford a car that's a step up from the level of the Z. Hoping maybe GT-R or Z06 in a couple years.

View Poll Results: Any Sport Package Owners Wish They Bought the Nismo Instead?
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No - I'm happy with the Sport Package	162	90.50%
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10-01-2012, 11:42 AM	#49 (permalink)
kidkotic2001 Track Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: El Paso, TX Posts: 541 Drives: Like Crazy Rep Power: 15	I voted no. But if the NISMO had all of the touring options, like Navi, leather, bluetooth, you know the works. I would have jumped on the NISMO. __________________ ThAt WaS a CrAzY nIgHt

10-01-2012, 12:31 PM	#52 (permalink)
wheee! A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Mod Capital of Canada Age: 58 Posts: 7,354 Drives: cars. lots of cars. Rep Power: 40182	Not a Nismo fan... prefer the customized Sport/Touring setup myself.... __________________ H&R / Stillen / Berk / HKS / Swift / Michelin / UpRev / SPC / Amuse Rep / Seibon / Fringe XVO / TWM / more... My Journal

10-01-2012, 01:42 PM	#54 (permalink)
b1adesofcha0s A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: MD Posts: 40,963 Drives: HypeTrain Choo Choo! Rep Power: 141	Even the base brakes are pretty good once you upgrade the pads/fluid. I put XP8's and RBF600 in mine and my braking is limited by my tires (RE050A's). I ended up buying a used touring non-sport because that was the best I could afford at the time. While I do like the Nismo, I don't think I would have bought it even if I could afford it. Actually, if I were to do it all again I'd probably get a 5.0 __________________ Project: b1adeZmobile (2009 370Z) \| Uprev Tune by AAM Competition \| Berk Exhaust Project: b1adeZmobile 2.0 (2014 C7 Z51) \| Corsa Xtreme Exhaust

10-01-2012, 07:58 PM	#59 (permalink)
johncy2000 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Redwood City SVBAZ, CA Posts: 461 Drives: Autohaus Progressive Rep Power: 13	NISMO Z For Life! __________________ 2011 Gun Metallic Nismo 370Z 6MT #435 Autohaus Progressive @johanncarlow autohausp@icloud.com

10-01-2012, 11:25 AM	#47 (permalink)
shadoquad A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: . Posts: 42,608 Drives: . Rep Power: 3886	Also, I own neither sports nor Nismo (although I did upgrade to the akebono brakes thx to a raffle). And I think that both are great cars. The sports pkg, base Z is your best performance for the buck, imo, but the Nismo is quite an extreme and wild Z. It always grabs my eye first in the lineup. I don't think that either constitutes a better or worse choice, it's just what fits whoever's preferences the best.

10-01-2012, 11:28 AM	#48 (permalink)
lemon-fresh Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Calgary Age: 40 Posts: 471 Drives: 09 370z Rep Power: 13	Z1 offers a pretty cool brake upgrade package. Z1 370Z / G37 Brake Upgrade Package (Sport Models)

10-01-2012, 12:10 PM	#51 (permalink)
lemon-fresh Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Calgary Age: 40 Posts: 471 Drives: 09 370z Rep Power: 13	Impressed that you managed to overheat the breaks off the track... Or maybe I'm more scared than impressed.

10-01-2012, 01:21 PM	#53 (permalink)
nmjaxx9 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Middletown, Ct Posts: 5,853 Drives: 2011 Nissan 370z Rep Power: 26	to each is his/her own still say the Nismo looks way better than SP. But looks arent everything right?

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