I participated in an auto focus group that compared the 370Z, BRZ, Cayman, and etc.

Kenny · 09-27-2012, 07:55 PM

Last night I participated in an automotive focus group on sports cars. I dominated the discussion portion, but I think they were turned off by my "extreme" views on the definition of a sports car. I think I just got too Jeremy Clarkson on them. There were three VW GTi owners in the group and they kept insisting what they drove was true sports car. Sorry dudes, RWD or GTFO! The GTi is a sports compact/hatch at best. Also, there were two Genesis coupe owners mixed in. Sorry, your Korean made car is a soulless appliance just like Samsung phones. During the second portion, they showed us a 2013 BRZ, tC, Cooper, 370Z, and Cayman. They then asked us to compare rate them based on look and feel. I was honest and I didn't say a whole lot of good things about the tC or Cooper. Unfortunately I didn't get a callback for the test drive phase. Also, I suspect they thought I was a bit 370Z biased; but they knew what I drove before I signed up. At least I got paid $200 for two hours of car talk and had a chance to check out the BRZ, which impressed me a little.

Jsolo · 09-27-2012, 07:59 PM

These are fun events to attend. Last one I went to was a focus group on the kia optima. They only paid $150 for about 4 hours of my time. No test drives, just a multimedia presentation. I kept going on about how there's nothing sporty whatsoever about the car in substance. It just looks sporty.

EndyKwon · 09-27-2012, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenny

There were three VW GTi owners in the group and they kept insisting what they drove was true sports car.

As much as I like the GTi, I find this to be hilarious. I like the car, its "sporty", but still it isn't a sports car. However, I disagree with your statement about the genesis coupe, I wouldn't go far as to say it doesn't have a soul. I feel that the car was meant to be more of a hybrid between sports car and grand tourer. Its moderately quick, has a neat set of equipment (if you decide to go the techy route), is a comfy car for what it is.

Can I ask why you didn't like the mini cooper? I always like the little car as far as looks go. Seems like it'd be more fun yet less practical than a GTi.

travisjb · 09-27-2012, 08:16 PM

sign an NDA?

11Thumper · 09-27-2012, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by travisjb

sign an NDA?

JungleZ · 09-27-2012, 08:32 PM

I hate to say this but with the 2013 price increase on the 370Z its not worth the price tag anymore. 37-39K just for a sports package? wow

OMGiGOTaZ · 09-29-2012, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by JungleZ

I hate to say this but with the 2013 price increase on the 370Z its not worth the price tag anymore. 37-39K just for a sports package? wow

Having went to buy a BRZ or 370 in the last 2 months, I felt the Z was the better value, the BRZ was loaded for 38k, my mouth dropped, and with 200hp, I felt I was being had, the 370 @ $37k was the right buy and I juggled for months what to buy so I was sure of my purchase, I looked at everything and the Z has the mystique of a collectors car, I felt like the camaro, mustang were like an IPhone, everyone has one, I see a dozen a day. The genesis was nearly there, just coming from a Hyundai I loved the reliability, but the car sounded like $#!+

DJ-of-E · 09-30-2012, 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by OMGiGOTaZ

Having went to buy a BRZ or 370 in the last 2 months, I felt the Z was the better value, the BRZ was loaded for 38k, my mouth dropped, and with 200hp, I felt I was being had, the 370 @ $37k was the right buy and I juggled for months what to buy so I was sure of my purchase, I looked at everything and the Z has the mystique of a collectors car, I felt like the camaro, mustang were like an IPhone, everyone has one, I see a dozen a day. The genesis was nearly there, just coming from a Hyundai I loved the reliability, but the car sounded like $#!+

Jeez, I bought my Z in 2011 because I could get it OTD $33.5k with 5 year old pkg & maintenance (don't ask how). If the Z was $37k like this year, I wouldn't even shop for one as that's expensive IMO.

Mandingo · 09-30-2012, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by OMGiGOTaZ

Having went to buy a BRZ or 370 in the last 2 months, I felt the Z was the better value, the BRZ was loaded for 38k, my mouth dropped, and with 200hp, I felt I was being had, the 370 @ $37k was the right buy and I juggled for months what to buy so I was sure of my purchase, I looked at everything and the Z has the mystique of a collectors car, I felt like the camaro, mustang were like an IPhone, everyone has one, I see a dozen a day. The genesis was nearly there, just coming from a Hyundai I loved the reliability, but the car sounded like $#!+

Is it really $37k now?? Good grief.

OMGiGOTaZ · 09-30-2012, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mandingo

Is it really $37k now?? Good grief.

I would have to look at the sticker price when i get home, but it might have even been 38

onzedge · 09-27-2012, 08:37 PM

Right on, Kenny. I am a purist as well. A sports car is RWD and has only two seats. The Cayman and the 370 are the only two sports cars I see in that group.

Mt Tam I am · 09-27-2012, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by onzedge

Right on, Kenny. I am a purist as well. A sports car is RWD and has only two seats. The Cayman and the 370 are the only two sports cars I see in that group.

I agree.

Good work if you can get it too.

robones · 09-28-2012, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by onzedge

Right on, Kenny. I am a purist as well. A sports car is RWD and has only two seats. The Cayman and the 370 are the only two sports cars I see in that group.

By your logic, then is the GTR not considered a sports car?

370Z Purist · 09-28-2012, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by robones

By your logic, then is the GTR not considered a sports car?

LOL this is going downhill quick...

nicknick · 09-30-2012, 07:39 PM

These are examples of sports cars; MX5, 370Z, Cayman, boxster, E type, BRZ, FT86, Z4, TT, 911, Alfa GTV, Fiat X1/9, Corvette.

These are examples of what is not sports cars; Kia coupe, ford capri, mazda 3 mps, Camaro, any 4 door sporty sedan, any coupe based on a sedan.

These are examples of supercars; GTR, Aventador, McLaren F1 and the fax machine, 911 turbo.

These are examples of muscle cars; mustang, camaro, charger.

09-27-2012, 07:55 PM	#1 (permalink)
Kenny Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 330 Drives: 2011 Nissan 370Z Rep Power: 15	I participated in an auto focus group that compared the 370Z, BRZ, Cayman, and etc. Last night I participated in an automotive focus group on sports cars. I dominated the discussion portion, but I think they were turned off by my "extreme" views on the definition of a sports car. I think I just got too Jeremy Clarkson on them. There were three VW GTi owners in the group and they kept insisting what they drove was true sports car. Sorry dudes, RWD or GTFO! The GTi is a sports compact/hatch at best. Also, there were two Genesis coupe owners mixed in. Sorry, your Korean made car is a soulless appliance just like Samsung phones. During the second portion, they showed us a 2013 BRZ, tC, Cooper, 370Z, and Cayman. They then asked us to compare rate them based on look and feel. I was honest and I didn't say a whole lot of good things about the tC or Cooper. Unfortunately I didn't get a callback for the test drive phase. Also, I suspect they thought I was a bit 370Z biased; but they knew what I drove before I signed up. At least I got paid $200 for two hours of car talk and had a chance to check out the BRZ, which impressed me a little. 370Z Purist, EazyD and onzedge like this. __________________

09-27-2012, 07:59 PM	#2 (permalink)
Jsolo Track Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: chicago Posts: 783 Drives: '12 G37 6MT Rep Power: 15	These are fun events to attend. Last one I went to was a focus group on the kia optima. They only paid $150 for about 4 hours of my time. No test drives, just a multimedia presentation. I kept going on about how there's nothing sporty whatsoever about the car in substance. It just looks sporty. __________________ G37S Sedan 6MT, Eibach swaybars, Invidia Exhaust, Weaker Clutch Pedal Spring For sale links

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onzedge A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Battle Lake MN Age: 64 Posts: 183,964 Drives: 370Z 240Z Rep Power: 2684737	Right on, Kenny. I am a purist as well. A sports car is RWD and has only two seats. The Cayman and the 370 are the only two sports cars I see in that group. Mt Tam I am, forza370z, sfearl1 and 2 others like this. __________________ Koni\|Swift\|Michelin\|Motordyne\|Berk\|RJM Performance\|Gates\|SPL\|Motul\|Technafit\|Ate Super Blue\|Hawk Tommy Kaira\|Momo\|Optima\|Hella\|Hotchkis\|Red Line\|ZSpeed\|Stillen\|B&M\|H&R

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nicknick Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Australia Posts: 438 Drives: Mazda mx5 2007 6sp m Rep Power: 17	These are examples of sports cars; MX5, 370Z, Cayman, boxster, E type, BRZ, FT86, Z4, TT, 911, Alfa GTV, Fiat X1/9, Corvette. These are examples of what is not sports cars; Kia coupe, ford capri, mazda 3 mps, Camaro, any 4 door sporty sedan, any coupe based on a sedan. These are examples of supercars; GTR, Aventador, McLaren F1 and the fax machine, 911 turbo. These are examples of muscle cars; mustang, camaro, charger.