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I seriously wonder how many people actually FULLY stop their cars at a stop sign while there is no traffic, roads are all clear AND isn't aware there is a

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Old 09-22-2012, 11:11 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I seriously wonder how many people actually FULLY stop their cars at a stop sign while there is no traffic, roads are all clear AND isn't aware there is a cop nearby look at you like a tiger sees a sheep...

Well, I was the sheep in this case... I did slow down my z to about 10mph but once I saw there were no trafic I hit the gas and go... Should I appeal the ticket?

The officer asked me if I saw the stop sign I told him I did but I didn't see him... Lesson learnd - $150 fine for not seeing a cop
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No point in appealing. You are supposed to stop regardless of traffic conditions.

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MA cops are ********, my wife got a warning for having a dirty unreadable front license plate just last month.
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What would be your basis for appealing it? You broke the law, got caught. You think the judge might find you not guilty? Not much chance of that. Whether or not the cop is a **** for not letting your violation slide is a different issue, but in court the judge is going to back the cop.







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In CA you must stop and wait some amount of time. I know this from a ride along with a cop. He nailed everyone that night for stop sign running (in the middle of no where too). I was appalled. They all looked like stops to me.

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I have some experience with Lowell, and if you have had a clean history for the last 3 years then there is a good chance of getting off or having it continued without finding.

There are a few places they regularly camp in Lowell since there are places where there perhaps should be a yield sign instead of a stop sign. The one where I see them nab people all the time is the Industrial Ave exit of the Lowell Connector.
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In CA you must stop and wait some amount of time. I know this from a ride along with a cop. He nailed everyone that night for stop sign running (in the middle of no where too). I was appalled. They all looked like stops to me.

I let my head go forward and back before continuing again.
Yeah I was thinking if the judge can give me a lighter punishment instead of a$150 fine. Like going to driving school or something...

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Should have said "no comment" to his question. Getting into conversations with cops can only hurt you, it will never help. Random question...Is your name Clayton by any chance?
Well, true. I talk to cops because I had some nice officers before and thought a joke might easy the tension. Well yeah, better to keep my mouth shut. And no, my name is not Clayton.

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I have some experience with Lowell, and if you have had a clean history for the last 3 years then there is a good chance of getting off or having it continued without finding.

There are a few places they regularly camp in Lowell since there are places where there perhaps should be a yield sign instead of a stop sign. The one where I see them nab people all the time is the Industrial Ave exit of the Lowell Connector.
Yeeeeeeeesssssssss! That's the place! The cop was hiding under the bridge... Well, for 13 years driving I only had one speeding ticket 7 years ago, but that didn't help...
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The officer asked me if I saw the stop sign I told him I did but I didn't see him... Lesson learnd - $150 fine for not seeing a cop
lol, just pay it man. You're not getting out of that.
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^^ Hummm... if I just pay it I could save $25 court fee. But if I spend this $25 there is a chance that the cop can't make it to the court and I could slide? It's like buying a scratch ticket.
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^^ But if I spend this $25 there is a chance that the cop can't make it to the court and I could slide? It's like buying a scratch ticket.
I'm not sure about MA but here in NY often times police officers get time and a half for court appearances, so they have an economic incentive to appear in court against you. Many police officers I know significantly supplement their base salaries with court overtime. Don't count on him/her not showing up.

IMO the ticket is worth fighting, however, since often times (again based upon what happens in NY) the local prosecutor is willing to reduce the moving violation (= points on your license) down to a non-moving violation (= no points). The town benefits because they get to keep all of the revenue generated from non-moving violations (whereas they get to keep only a fraction of the fines associated with moving violations and thus have an economic incentive to offer the plea) except for a mandatory surcharge which goes to the state. The police officer gets time and a half for appearing in court. You pay a fine but no points are assessed against your license and your insurance premiums don't go up by an amount which would greatly exceed the fine. Everybody "wins".

YMMV in MA. Good luck.
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Well, I was the sheep in this case... I did slow down my z to about 10mph but once I saw there were no trafic I hit the gas and go... Should I appeal the ticket?
What would be your basis for appealing it? You broke the law, got caught. You think the judge might find you not guilty? Not much chance of that. Whether or not the cop is a **** for not letting your violation slide is a different issue, but in court the judge is going to back the cop.
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I seriously wonder how many people actually FULLY stop their cars at a stop sign while there is no traffic, roads are all clear AND isn't aware there is a cop nearby look at you like a tiger sees a sheep...

Well, I was the sheep in this case... I did slow down my z to about 10mph but once I saw there were no trafic I hit the gas and go... Should I appeal the ticket?

The officer asked me if I saw the stop sign I told him I did but I didn't see him... Lesson learnd - $150 fine for not seeing a cop
Should have said "no comment" to his question. Getting into conversations with cops can only hurt you, it will never help.
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I use an APP on my iPhone called WAZE. It crowd-sources the location of all sorts of "road hazzards" including our fine, hard working boys in blue. It also does turn by turn nav etc.

I like knowing where they are (thanks to other WAZERs) it makes me feel safe. It also will help to sometimes remind you the importance of extra vigilance to those annoying traffic laws. Big brother is watching. Its important to watch right back.

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I go to court for every ticket. In my state they basically tell you if you plead no contest and have a decent driving record you will only have to pay court cost. If your driving record is not that great you may have to do an online class as well (maximum 5 lifetime). Its worth it in IMHO
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