Is this Nissan dealer Lying to me to get me in the door?
 

Hi,

New here to the forums but I've reading up quite a bit on the 370. I've yet to test drive one yet. I was considering going to this dealership to test drive a 2011 touring model, so I emailed the dealer asking them about the Syncro Rev Matching.

This is the response I got grammar and all.

Joe,hey this is Alan Young at Tri Cities Nissan,the 2011 370z is a touring model,no sport package,but it is a 6 speed manual which does have sychro rev matching. Call me at 423 -282 -4731 with questions or set up test drive.Thanks,AY

Is this dealer just blowing smoke up my a$$ to get me in the door? Or is he just unknowledgeable about the product? Or do they really make such a beast?

Here is a link to the Car.

2011 Nissan 370Z Johnson City TN

Thanks,
Joe (QuadDragon)

They are definately just trying you get you in the door. The only way to have synchro rev matching 6 speed is with the sports package.

I may go test drive it anyhow since its close, and if I like it buy one cheaper farther away with the SRM. I found a loaded 2010 model with Nav and sport for around 30k. Low mileage.

I never got to test SRM before i bought mine, every time I checked at the dealer they didn't have one with the sports package. I ended up buying mine in Arizona, but the weekend it came in for me to pick it up I had to work, so my now ex-wife drove over there with her brother and they picked it up together.

What year / model and how much?

I bought it brand new in 2010, Roadster, touring w/sport, nav. I Payed $41,000 OTD before trade in/down payment.

Find a used sport package! Or buy the base if you decide your going to be modding the car! It will save you money

Dealers know sh*t.

Well theres a couple of questions to ask to determine whther or not they are lying:

1) are they a car salesman. if so, then yes
2) is there mouth moving. if so, then yes


next question: Why are they selling cars?

1) they are super knowlegable about all cars. so much so they need to sell them to properly inform people about the vehicles they are going to spend $40k+ on.
2) this is the job the always wanted. they are passionate about it, and want u to get the vehicle that fits YOU
3) this was the only job opening available when they got canned from their laast job. the only thing theY know about these cars is what they read on the brochure on the vehicle right as they saw u eying it from inside. they go by what nissan tells them to say to get u in the lot. they don't car about what car fits u, just how much commission they will make by pressuring u into a car u don't truly want.


you know, its amazing to me, how any time i go into a dealership to talk to a salesperson i end up telling THEM about THEIR cars. explaining what it has and why they don't have me by the balls. and its not just z's.

for instance: i am no all knowing car guru by any means. but last week i had a guy tell me that a mazdaspeed that i was looking at (for my gf) had the 18" wheels on it because it was a "premium package". which he then proceeded to tell me added the turbo, spoiler, and hood scoop.... i then explain, no these are all standard on a mazdaspeed. he proceeds to argue with me for 10 min about why its a premium until i say,"i'll go elsewhere" and left.

i don't care if everyone isnt a car person, thats ok with me. But sales people that will blatantly argue incorrect facts WITH A CUSTOMER are ignorant in my book.

end rant/

so to answer your question, yes dealers will misrepresent cars to get u in the lot to push a pressure sale

I was lied to also by a dealership back when I was looking around for z's. I found a z that was listed as having touring and sport package, then the salesman I talked to sent me a link to the car and I saw that it had the base model wheels, so I knew it didn't have the sport package. I asked him about it and he said that "you can't buy the base model z with sport package, it can only have the touring package" as if the nismo only had the sport package. I said I think he's incorrect on that and he insisted that was the case. Well about a week later I sent him a pic of my new base model with sports package from another dealership:happydance:! All I got back from him in a text was a "good luck" lol

you can bet one thing people.a car salesman is the most lying and deceiving person on the planet.good luck !

Had a dealer tell me that the 2013 solid red he had on the lot is the only red the car comes in. When I told him it was not, he insisted that it was. So I told him to go do some research on his cars before he tries to argue with a customer.

Few weeks later I came by to look to see if they got any more 370Z delivered, same guy came trotting out, saw me and I said "Oh you are the guy that was rude to me, I'll get you someone else". I said "Sure, get me someone who knows their product".

The dealerships will always lie to you no matter what car your buying. Most of them (not all) don't know a damn thing about the car they are trying to sell. All they care about is how much money they are going to be making.

Sent from a device that's smarter than me.

I doubt he was lying. He just doesn't know and doesn't want to take the 2 minutes it would take to find out.

I can tell you more about a Bic pen I sell than most car salesman can tell you about the cars they sell.

Q: Is this Nissan dealer Lying to me to get me in the door?

YES and YES

A: Dealerships are liars and yes dealers want to get you in the door.

There's a fine line between the two and I don't appreciate either.

I've always been astonished by how little these guys know about such a small product portfolio. I knew more about these cars as a kid with a ravenous appetite for car magazines.

With my Z order, my salesman knew his stuff - and that which he didn't, he promptly went to the computer to confirm instead of guessing.

I was lied to when I bought my Z. I was just going by to look at them and the salesperson told me that the '12's were faster than the GT-R. The added oil cooler to keep the temps down and a bump on hp by tuning the ecu. I thought this was all nonsense but thought heck he works for Nissan so must be true so I signed my name on the dotted line....you can imagine my surprise when I lined up next to a GT-R and got smoked :mad:

So even though the above story is fictitous...the moral of the story is to not believe a salesperson.

The are lying because they don't know.

If a person who does not know an answer to a question, instead of saying honestly "I do not know, but I will find out for you." and makes up an answer that is not true - they are lying.

That is a guy that deserves respect. There is nothing wrong with saying "I do not know".

I make a six figure salary and am considered an expert in my field, but if I BS'ed through my job every time I did not know something, I would have been out on my *** a long time ago.

It's funny you say that. In my 5 years in my career I've encountered several senior coworkers that have built their entire career on this practice. As long as you can shoot from the hip and sound convincing doing it, there's plenty of money to be made in the art of BS'ing.

Easiest way to tell if a salesman is lying: look at their face. Are their lips moving and are words escaping through the air and falling on your ears? If so, the salesman is lying.

Unfortunately, I have seen people like that as well, but in the engineering field that approach doesn't work. People like that tend to gravitate to sales.

Next to Real estate agents and mortgage brokers....

LOL. There is a guy where I work (senior network engineer/architect) who is like that. Unbelievably incompetent but he can talk the talk.

The company i work for spent over 2 million in network equipment and we have had more downtime than ever since this guy started... The competent guy got so fed up with him he quit.

Why was he hired and put above the previous guy? Because he looked better on paper and had more certifications/qualifactions. I only do some networking stuff (mostly linux sysadmin) but also full switch/router access so kind of a junior network admin as well. Well even I have encountered tons of times where he is doing things amazingly retarded that really show he doesn't know WTF he is doing.

Also blames someone else and makes excuses. Nothing is ever his fault. I hate people like this. Another junior network level guy fired as he used him as his scapegoat. Luckily for me networking isnt even part of my job description I just happen to do it and took on some extra responsibilities. I am glad he can't do that crap to me.

Nissan's website has a dealer locator and can check dealer inventory for you. It will tell you exactly if they have one with sport package.

not all car sales men are liars, when i picked up my Z, the car sales man i was working was very honest, when i asked him about the nismo z he told me all that was really different was the amount of horse power, the exhaust, and the body kit(which is true) and when i asked him about the touring+sport vs the nismo he told be that the main difference was that the touring had luxury like heated seats, sat nav, ect. and the nismo didnt have any of that but it was the better performance car off the lot

needless to say he sold me the nismo 370z for 35k OTD and after i picked up lowjack, a car alarm, and a few other accessories it was about 37K OTD

now that was at the local nissan dealer here so idk how it is at nissan specific dealers out side of my city but i had a wonderful experience

now used car sales men are a whole other topic but we all should expect used car sales men to lie to us

I decided to go ahead and test drive it. Even without the Syncro Rev Matching its a hell of a car. The seat is a bit snug for me in the back because I'm a big guy, and my belly almost hits the steering wheel when I'm far enough in to press the clutch. Even with all that, the car is pretty amazing, I just don't think its quite big enough for me to use as a daily driver.

If only they made a Z car with 1 seat in the middle like a Formula 1 car.

Guess I'll test drive a Mustang (with Recaro seats) and a Challenger next.
I test drove a WRX STI as well, that was a pretty comfortable car, not too snug and in the same price range used.

I'm open to all suggestions for Fat people in Sports cars, let me know what I should test drive :driving:

Joe

The reason I left car sales when I did.. I love cars and they're a passion of mine (obviously) but battling the stigma and stereotype really bugged me.. I wasn't your typical sales guy and true I was still in the training process but I hated being seen as a rattlesnake in a suit, and having people hate me for no reason. Then i found out in order to get anywhere thats what you had to become i bailed. That along with being told "it's your job to get Rick his Lear jet". Call me crazy I loved cars and loved sales and working with people, but commission sales is brutal and cut throat. Guess my morals got in the way of personal advancement.. Lol

You got yourself a Base+touring+sport wing... I bought my Z used and god bless the dealershit, they didn't know it had sport package, so I bought it under KBB trade in value, LOL!!!!