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JungleZ 09-21-2012 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by luigi90210 (Post 1926476)
i call BS on the s2k
maybe the 350z and g35 if they had the old DE engine but if it had the VR engine, the 350z would smoke you 5 times over


maybe the 350z with the DE engine but that really isnt an accomplishment, the 3.5 altima and maxima would smoke a DE 350z

s2000 iS lacking torque stock. If any of those cars were modified theres no chance for my "little Prelude" but believe it or not my $1000 smsp header made that H22A engine very nice and i wasnt even tuned.

and yes I'm talking about the older DE engines.

OMGiGOTaZ 09-21-2012 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by captain1 (Post 1924219)
Got some free time at work and did some browse on car reviews at Edmunds. I was surprised by some 0-60 results. The cunky X3 can do so in 5.8 secs and 2013 Accord = 6.1 secs.

Our Z is roughly at 5.x secs (roadster / coupe / auto manual all different). Z is a true sport car, but it's < 1 sec quicker than X3 and Accord.

Is the current Z getting old?

What I find odd is that when I combed through 0-60 times before purchasing the Z, I was also looking at the camaro SS and Genesis coupe, but nothing out there really decimates the Z, it's very competitive and if you buy right and Grab a Stillen Kit :gtfo2: :excited:

luigi90210 09-21-2012 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by JungleZ (Post 1926491)
s2000 iS lacking torque stock. If any of those cars were modified theres no chance for my "little Prelude" but believe it or not my $1000 smsp header made that H22A engine very nice and i wasnt even tuned.

and yes I'm talking about the older DE engines.

i dont know much about the s2k personally but i know that's a fairly quick car(not as quick as an mr2 though)

untuned for those mods you wouldnt see much gains, maybe 12whp but i dont think that would be enough to smoke a 350z even the older DE models(but its not impossible)

are you talking straight line or track?

nmjaxx9 09-21-2012 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by OMGiGOTaZ (Post 1926497)
What I find odd is that when I combed through 0-60 times before purchasing the Z, I was also looking at the camaro SS and Genesis coupe, but nothing out there really decimates the Z, it's very competitive and if you buy right and Grab a Stillen Kit :gtfo2: :excited:

X2 was looking at the camaro as well but the interior of it made me run away from it really fast. :rofl2:

themann1984 09-21-2012 04:00 PM

The 370Z is pure sex! It is hot, loud, and rough!

obito 09-22-2012 02:44 AM

you wont call Z as a horrible gas mileages if you try out Rx8 lol

G37sHKS 09-22-2012 07:30 AM

So VVEL is considered as old school technology now?

mhcoss 09-22-2012 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by nmjaxx9 (Post 1924539)
Unless you step on the pedal, I realized grannying it on the highway vs a couple pulls on the highway and im down like 3-4 dots. :icon17:

Yea, Its amazing how fast my fuel gauge drops when I start opening up the throttle haha! The way you drive this car makes a huge difference!

UNKNOWN_370 09-22-2012 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkJak (Post 1924837)
The engine is based on a pretty old platform. No DI, uses more fuel that most V6's now, and doesn't really have any tricks up it's sleeve, like start-stop and cylinder deactivation. However, it does have a 7.5k redline, which is still on the high side of things, and makes 90 hp/l, which is pretty good for a higher displacement engine.

The manual has SRM, which is definitely new tech.
The auto isn't a dual clutch, but is snappy and fun with the paddles with 7 gears.

Carbon composite driveshaft is more advanced than most. Wheels are lighter than most. Gripper than cars in its price range too, even with conventional springs and shocks.

So the Z is more conventional than the new cars coming out, but everything that I'd say is old, I'd also label as being very refined for the tech.

Wow, someone that actually got to the root answer of the question without BS. +1

nmjaxx9 09-23-2012 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by mhcoss (Post 1927206)
Yea, Its amazing how fast my fuel gauge drops when I start opening up the throttle haha! The way you drive this car makes a huge difference!

Hence you have to be careful about how much fun you have. Unless you have the income to back it up. :D

jcosta79 09-23-2012 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by G37sHKS (Post 1927191)
So VVEL is considered as old school technology now?

Variable valve timing, lift, and all it's variations, is not new technology by any stretch of the imagination. If the next gen Z car does not have direct injection, it will definitely be considered old technology.

mhcoss 09-23-2012 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by nmjaxx9 (Post 1928457)
Hence you have to be careful about how much fun you have. Unless you have the income to back it up. :D

I think I could easily get 10 mpgs around town but usually I accelerate very slowly because it requries less effort haha. Sometimes though i'll give her a ncie pull and every time :tup:

Streetlife 09-24-2012 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkJak (Post 1924837)
The engine is based on a pretty old platform. No DI, uses more fuel that most V6's now, and doesn't really have any tricks up it's sleeve, like start-stop and cylinder deactivation. However, it does have a 7.5k redline, which is still on the high side of things, and makes 90 hp/l, which is pretty good for a higher displacement engine.

The manual has SRM, which is definitely new tech.
The auto isn't a dual clutch, but is snappy and fun with the paddles with 7 gears.

Carbon composite driveshaft is more advanced than most. Wheels are lighter than most. Gripper than cars in its price range too, even with conventional springs and shocks.

So the Z is more conventional than the new cars coming out, but everything that I'd say is old, I'd also label as being very refined for the tech.

:iagree:

UNKNOWN_370 09-24-2012 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by nmjaxx9 (Post 1926509)
X2 was looking at the camaro as well but the interior of it made me run away from it really fast. :rofl2:

I was between the Z, G, gencoupe, & camaro. At first choice, the G won. After 13 months in a G37s... I bought a Z. I test drove the others extensively. At the time, I realized the others couldn't deliver on the same performance level. The camaro SS torque though is the best in the affordable sport segment. Torque in the camaro even trumps the stang. I found true fun factor rivals in the Evo and 135,but the best overall value in the Z.

nmjaxx9 09-25-2012 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 1929686)
I was between the Z, G, gencoupe, & camaro. At first choice, the G won. After 13 months in a G37s... I bought a Z. I test drove the others extensively. At the time, I realized the others couldn't deliver on the same performance level. The camaro SS torque though is the best in the affordable sport segment. Torque in the camaro even trumps the stang. I found true fun factor rivals in the Evo and 135,but the best overall value in the Z.

Well said. I agree, i test drove two of the same the G and Camaro. The G was nice but, the feel and driving position of the Z is much better. Having owned a 37 you proabably know what I mean. :driving:

As for the camaro I liked the outside styling, it was aggressive and mean imo, but then of of course the interior like I said deterred me from me, plus the Z looked 100X better (biased LOL) :tup:

oh and dont even start with the mustang. hhaahahha


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