Nissan 370Z Forum  

Why are reviewers so hard on the z?

Originally Posted by Red__Zed It's been well established that there is a wide variance in the operating temps for different z's. I've seen some run hot, and some run cool...likely

Go Back   Nissan 370Z Forum > Nissan 370Z General Area > Nissan 370Z General Discussions


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-05-2012, 10:26 AM   #46 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
ZMan8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 5,844
Drives: 10 370z 40th M6
Rep Power: 659
ZMan8 has a reputation beyond reputeZMan8 has a reputation beyond reputeZMan8 has a reputation beyond reputeZMan8 has a reputation beyond reputeZMan8 has a reputation beyond reputeZMan8 has a reputation beyond reputeZMan8 has a reputation beyond reputeZMan8 has a reputation beyond reputeZMan8 has a reputation beyond reputeZMan8 has a reputation beyond reputeZMan8 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Red__Zed View Post
It's been well established that there is a wide variance in the operating temps for different z's. I've seen some run hot, and some run cool...likely due to natural variation within tolerances
I didn't know that, just seems strange there is such a large variance.


All I hope with these types of reviews is that it doesn't hurt the value if our cars. We as mostly happy owners Don't care for reviews anymore and "smart" shoppers don't just read reviews but research and ask questions on forums like this one.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using Tapatalk 2
__________________
2010 370Z 40 Anniv., 6 MT | Fast Intentions | Swift Springs | SPC | Z1Motorsports | JWM | Redline Oils | 35% Window Tint
2015 Mazda6 | 370ZChicago: Chicago Area Cars & Coffee
ZMan8 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2012, 10:39 AM   #47 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
red6spd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Long Island NY
Posts: 3,277
Drives: 2010 Z Coupe M6 SPT
Rep Power: 21
red6spd is a jewel in the roughred6spd is a jewel in the roughred6spd is a jewel in the roughred6spd is a jewel in the rough
Default

I love my Z!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
__________________
2010 Base+Sport 6spd: Stillen G3, FI Non-Resonated CBE, FI Non-Resonated Test Pipes, UpRev Tuned, Custom 24R Oil Cooler, JDM Rear Fog-OEM Harness.
???Whp ???WTQ (Will find out come spring time)
red6spd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2012, 10:42 AM   #48 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
Streetlife's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Texas
Posts: 466
Drives: 2012 370z Mont/sport
Rep Power: 16
Streetlife will become famous soon enough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by red6spd View Post
I love my Z!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Me too!
__________________
Tanabe Medalion Exhaust + Tanabe Y-Pipe, Baker Tuning, K&N Drop-Ins, Z1 Post MAF Tubes, GT-R Button, Nismo Magnetic Oil Drain Plug, CeramiKool Tint 35%, Solar Gard Clearshield Clearbra
Streetlife is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2012, 11:43 AM   #49 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
UNKNOWN_370's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: ny'r livn in tx
Posts: 8,687
Drives: well over 130m.p.h.
Rep Power: 14858
UNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

I'm a late bloomer to this article but this is laughable. Has anyone had a steering lock,oil consumption issue since 2010. I'm on 2 Z34's and a G37s... non have had an issue. The whole C&D thing... I think is a bad reflection of the magazine and not the car.
Fuel starve to me is something of concern till this day. the Z manual transmission seems to be extremely quirky and not the best feeling.
But the Z auto and Z manual should be judged differently as well... More auto's seem to run a little bit cooler, have slightly lower NVH, are more reliable, and obviously faster. I'm sure this offsets some of the issues that are found in the manual.

Either way, The Z is still far from a junk car and most unreliable Z's have been found on stock street Z's being tracked. Though this car is track-able with mild mods. without those mods, on a track it may not belong? Depending on who's driving.

If you're going to track the car. add the right tid-bits it needs. Otherwise, the Z is very reliable as an aggressive street car. PERIOD. There's better cars out there but for the money, the Z doesn't do too shabby.

Just like the 90's imports. People won't appreciate these cars till they are gone. the Z is still
1. The fastest NA-v6 under 40k (quarter mi. 13.1-13.4sec)
2. Has the most grip/widest tire under 40k (.99-1.01g)
3. Most powerful 2 seater under 40k (332/350hp)
4. Near-perfect 100.4" wheelbase & 53/47% weight dist.
5. Under 3300lbs in base guise pre-2012. under 3400lbs post 2012
6. Only car to have proprietary and popular SRM feature on a manual.
7. Fastest 60-0 braking with sport pkg. 102ft

The Z is no BRZ in weight but the next lightest v6 is the gencoupe and then the mustang. The gencoupe 2.0, which is a 4 banger still is heavier than a Z @ 3400lbs and the mustang v6 3500lbs.

Why isn't all of this mentioned in magazines? CORPORATE POLITICS!!!
UNKNOWN_370 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2012, 11:48 AM   #50 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
lemon-fresh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Calgary
Age: 40
Posts: 471
Drives: 09 370z
Rep Power: 13
lemon-fresh is a jewel in the roughlemon-fresh is a jewel in the roughlemon-fresh is a jewel in the rough
Default

It's likely just a phase, the 370 was the cool kid on the block a few years ago. I'm sure once nissan FINALLY retires the platform opinions will change.
lemon-fresh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2012, 12:18 PM   #51 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
UNKNOWN_370's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: ny'r livn in tx
Posts: 8,687
Drives: well over 130m.p.h.
Rep Power: 14858
UNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by lemon-fresh View Post
It's likely just a phase, the 370 was the cool kid on the block a few years ago. I'm sure once nissan FINALLY retires the platform opinions will change.
I know they will. It's the hypocritical way of american journalism.
UNKNOWN_370 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2012, 12:36 PM   #52 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
lemon-fresh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Calgary
Age: 40
Posts: 471
Drives: 09 370z
Rep Power: 13
lemon-fresh is a jewel in the roughlemon-fresh is a jewel in the roughlemon-fresh is a jewel in the rough
Default

Agreed, and it sucks because it can hurt resale value. In my area an 09 370 will sell for roughly the same as an 11 5.0. I'd like that kind of trend to continue.
lemon-fresh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2012, 12:56 PM   #53 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Los Gatos, CA
Posts: 1,027
Drives: Lexus CT
Rep Power: 16
anthonyy will become famous soon enough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by w0rM View Post
I'm not sure bias is the right word. We all spent $25k to $45k to buy a car we thought was great. That doesn't make us bias but it pretty clearly demonstrates that there are a lot of car people out there that think these reviewers don't know what they're talking about.

Just because some C+ journalism student gets a job at a car magazine, it doesn't make him an instant expert on cars.
completely agree. Okay, maybe being bias isn't the best word... how about post-purchase rationalization
But don't get it twisted, I love my Z and the Z's I had before this one.
I just don't like it when there is one neutral or bad review and people freak out. F*** the reviewer, he's probably a C+ journalism student.

Last edited by anthonyy; 09-05-2012 at 01:01 PM.
anthonyy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2012, 02:23 PM   #54 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
UNKNOWN_370's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: ny'r livn in tx
Posts: 8,687
Drives: well over 130m.p.h.
Rep Power: 14858
UNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by anthonyy View Post
completely agree. Okay, maybe being bias isn't the best word... how about post-purchase rationalization
But don't get it twisted, I love my Z and the Z's I had before this one.
I just don't like it when there is one neutral or bad review and people freak out. F*** the reviewer, he's probably a C+ journalism student.
I don't freak out cuz I know the Z and its capability. When I hear negatives from acquaintances reading car mag literature. I can change there mind with offering them 10 minutes in the passenger seat. What pisses me off though is, we're in a country where people instantly believe anything read in a popular magazine without knowledge or testing of a product.
It kills Z sales which can affect us in the future. It's things like this that drop car value, Make Nissan cancel or NOT export the Z for sale in America, or it makes people lose interest in wanting to enter the sports car world in general.
UNKNOWN_370 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2012, 02:32 PM   #55 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
ZMan8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 5,844
Drives: 10 370z 40th M6
Rep Power: 659
ZMan8 has a reputation beyond reputeZMan8 has a reputation beyond reputeZMan8 has a reputation beyond reputeZMan8 has a reputation beyond reputeZMan8 has a reputation beyond reputeZMan8 has a reputation beyond reputeZMan8 has a reputation beyond reputeZMan8 has a reputation beyond reputeZMan8 has a reputation beyond reputeZMan8 has a reputation beyond reputeZMan8 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 View Post
I don't freak out cuz I know the Z and its capability. When I hear negatives from acquaintances reading car mag literature. I can change there mind with offering them 10 minutes in the passenger seat. What pisses me off though is, we're in a country where people instantly believe anything read in a popular magazine without knowledge or testing of a product.
It kills Z sales which can affect us in the future. It's things like this that drop car value, Make Nissan cancel or NOT export the Z for sale in America, or it makes people lose interest in wanting to enter the sports car world in general.
This sums up my opinion perfectly. Well said. biggest issue like You said Is sales and what Nissan does because of that

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using Tapatalk 2
__________________
2010 370Z 40 Anniv., 6 MT | Fast Intentions | Swift Springs | SPC | Z1Motorsports | JWM | Redline Oils | 35% Window Tint
2015 Mazda6 | 370ZChicago: Chicago Area Cars & Coffee
ZMan8 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2012, 03:32 PM   #56 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
ZKraken22's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Houston
Posts: 1,115
Drives: 10 Nissan 370Z 7AT
Rep Power: 16
ZKraken22 is on a distinguished road
Default

Well everyday I get on the forum and somebody is Having a problem with their car. Mostly the transmission
__________________
Litespeed Racing Titanium Cold Air intake// GT Haus Axle// GarageLine combo// Nismo sway bars// Nismo Spoiler // Berk TP's
ZKraken22 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2012, 04:32 PM   #57 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Davey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Indiana
Posts: 3,766
Drives: '15 NISMO 6MT
Rep Power: 117171
Davey has a reputation beyond reputeDavey has a reputation beyond reputeDavey has a reputation beyond reputeDavey has a reputation beyond reputeDavey has a reputation beyond reputeDavey has a reputation beyond reputeDavey has a reputation beyond reputeDavey has a reputation beyond reputeDavey has a reputation beyond reputeDavey has a reputation beyond reputeDavey has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ZKraken22 View Post
Well everyday I get on the forum and somebody is Having a problem with their car. Mostly the transmission
Better buy a Mustang then, their transmissions are F-L-A-W-L-E-S-S.
Davey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2012, 04:32 PM   #58 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
jcosta79's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: N/A
Posts: 1,430
Drives: N/A
Rep Power: 15
jcosta79 is a name known to alljcosta79 is a name known to alljcosta79 is a name known to alljcosta79 is a name known to alljcosta79 is a name known to alljcosta79 is a name known to all
Default

If you guys think journalists are tough on the 370Z, you should be glad you don't own a Corvette.

Ouch.
__________________
2012 PW NISMO #0559 - GT Spec Brace Kit - Swift Springs - ARK TP & Invidia CBE K&N Intake - UpRev Tune - 15mm Z1 Spacers & Studs - StopTech Slotted Rotors & SS Lines - ZSpeed CMAK with Stage 2 Clutch and Lightweight Flywheel
jcosta79 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2012, 04:44 PM   #59 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Davey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Indiana
Posts: 3,766
Drives: '15 NISMO 6MT
Rep Power: 117171
Davey has a reputation beyond reputeDavey has a reputation beyond reputeDavey has a reputation beyond reputeDavey has a reputation beyond reputeDavey has a reputation beyond reputeDavey has a reputation beyond reputeDavey has a reputation beyond reputeDavey has a reputation beyond reputeDavey has a reputation beyond reputeDavey has a reputation beyond reputeDavey has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Yeah, and also, I looked at a Corvette forum one time and people were complaining about the roof flying off, transmissions failing, door handles coming off, dealers giving them the runaround on repairs...

I guess my point here is that if you read forums you'll see that all cars are terrible pieces of crap that you should never buy... All of them.
Davey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2012, 05:04 PM   #60 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
lemon-fresh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Calgary
Age: 40
Posts: 471
Drives: 09 370z
Rep Power: 13
lemon-fresh is a jewel in the roughlemon-fresh is a jewel in the roughlemon-fresh is a jewel in the rough
Default

lemon-fresh is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
okay don't rip on me too hard but... edub370 Intake/Exhaust 11 07-23-2011 12:32 PM
Is it that hard to.... edub370 Forced Induction 19 07-01-2011 03:19 PM
New here and looking hard samb03 Nissan 370Z General Discussions 17 11-11-2010 12:35 AM
The better tires going to be hard to get? Hi-Step'n370Z Wheels & Tires 12 01-28-2010 02:09 PM
What makes the Z's engine sound so bad (to reviewers)? Superjoe Nissan 370Z General Discussions 58 08-07-2009 05:26 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:27 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2