Genesis Vs. 370Z
 

Now don't get me wrong,...I am NOT buying this thing and don't believe I will ever buy a Hyundai.
BUT
This thing has HP above 300, a 6 SPD Manual, RWD, and is priced Fully loaded below a base 370Z and 10K below a fully loaded 370Z.

With Hyundai gaining a better and better reputation, it makes me wonder.

Will the Genesis give the 370Z some competition?
10K can buy a lot of mods and easily 30hp.




Hyundai Genesis Coupe GT:
306 HP.8-liter DOHC V6
Leather steering wheel / Shift knob
Metalgrain / chrome interior accents
Automatic temperature control
Fog lamps
Premium door sill plates
Trip computer
Chrome front fascia accents
Auto light control

MSRP: $23995-29895

Configuration: Front engine, rear-wheel drive
Wheelbase: 2820 mm / 111.0 inches
Overall length: 4630 mm / 182.3 inches
Overall width: 1865 mm / 73.4 inches
Overall height: 1380 mm / 54.3 inches
Wheels: 18-inch or 19-inch five-spoke Engine types: 3.8-liter V6 or 2.0-liter 4-cylinder turbo
Est. horsepower V6: 306 @ 6,000 rpm (regular fuel)
Est. horsepower V6: 310 @ 6,000 rpm (premium fuel)
Est. torque V6: 263 lb. ft. @ 4,700 rpm (regular and premium fuel)
• Block & head materials: aluminum engine
• Valvetrain: DOHC
• Valve timing: continuously variable dual valve timing)
• Estimated 0-60 mph V6: under 6 seconds
• Transmission types: 6-speed manual, 6-speed automatic
• Front brakes: 12.6-inch (standard) 13.4-inch (Brembo package)
• Rear brakes: 12.4-inch (standard) 13.0-inch (Brembo package)
• Front calipers: single piston floating (standard), monobloc four-piston (Brembo package)
• Rear calipers: single piston floating (standard) monobloc four-piston (Brembo package)
• Limited slip differential (Optional)
• Est. top speed: 149 mph (V6), 137 mph (2.0t)
• Base curb weight: 3549 lbs.


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Hell even Rhys Millen picked up one.

Sema: Rhys Millen Racing Hyundai Genesis Coupe Unveiled At SEMA

Genesis vs. 370Z? Well, Phil Collins is pretty awesome, but I don't think he quite has the vocal horsepower to compete with the Z. I mean, "In the Air Tonight" was killer, but then they went and did "Groovy Kind of Love". Lord have mercy.

I crack myself up. :icon17:

SERIOUSLY though, it's not a straight up fight, once again. The Hyundai gives up 200lbs to the Nissan, along with 25-ish horsepower. It does have price going for it, at least a little bit, but that seems to be it for me. Styling wise, I'd pick the Z and its 240Z-emotive looks over the Hyundai's Accord coupe "ctrl+c/ctrl+v" attempt any day of the week.

S.

The genesis is as UGLY as sin.....and a million other UGLY things. All of which equates too.....

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No cheeseburger for you Hyundai.

The side view of the windows look like a penis.

:bowrofl: I lol'ed here at work! It actually does.

Genesis just doesn't do it for me. It can have 400 HP but it's just not as classy or elegant as the 370Z (or even 350Z). It reminds me of any other 2 door 4 seater (i.e. eclipse, cobalt etc). It's kinda like comparing G37 with G6 coupe. The luxury, heritage, and refinement you'll find in a Z, that'll never be in that Hyundai. This is of course MY opinion ;)

Essentially "You can't polish a turd."

I'm just curious if its pricing will detract from people that want New, RWD, and above 300hp, but can't afford a 370Z.

Its is an ugly dog though, whats with the slapped on Elantra front bumper?

jajajjajaja you guys!!!!

Well, don't think that the Genesis Coupe will give problems to the 370z.

But it is clear that Hyundai need a car like this to gain more ground. They did a great job with the Genesis Sedan.

Anyway, 370z, imo, will be better car in every aspect.

With the current economy I CAN see people buying it. But, I don't think a true Z enthusiast will go near that car. How are reviews on the car?

Also how come all Hyundai's looks like it's copied from other vehicle??? Sonata looks like Honda accord, Elantra looks like VW Jetta and the new accent is a exact molding copy of the corolla :shakes head:

Quick answer? Corollas, Accords and Jettas are better looking cars and Hyundai is taking cues.

Here's a question, Why does the 2008-2009 Honda Accord sedan look like a late model Saturn sedan?

They are going to sell very well. I dont think anyone in their right mind would ever buy one of those if they can also afford a Z. Not even close.

I believe the genesis will be the new civic.
I remember reading a magazine at barnes & nobles.
So buckle up guys and get ready to see some crazy ricers soon!
370z > Genesis hands down

Horrible!!! On par with the Z performance wise, but no where near quality or style. Yes it is 10k cheaper, but there is no way I'd spend 20-25k on a damn Korean made junker. It's like the old joke, "Whats the difference between a Jehovah's witness and a Hyundai?" you can slam the door on a Jehovah's witness.

They are not going to be on par performance wise. the Genesis has 30 less hp and 300lbs extra.

Hyundai is starting to make some good cars with good prices, not to mention some lame styling, but still........at the end of the day, if you where to ask ppl what is one bad thing about Hyundai, everyone would say "IT'S A HYUNDAI !!"....there reputation is still in the drain and has to be flushed out to start fresh.......hahahahahaha.......

(what a cheesy comment i made at the end)

This is funny. This same topic was posted on my350z not long ago. :icon17:
Honestly, the Genisis will do ok in it's own world. It will sell to those kiddies who can't afford a 370Z.
But at the end of the day the 370Z is still the better car. :driving:

I think it's a valid point that BanningZ makes. Hyundai has brought the Genesis Coupe to market precisely because they feel there IS a market for the car, and I think they are correct. There are plenty of folks who will take one look at the price vs. equipment, give a low whistle, and head into the Hyundai showroom. They won't mind the derivative styling, or the gap in performance to (among other cars) the Z. They will enjoy the big savings in cost and the warranty. Well, they will until they see the depreciation.

RWD, 300+hp, good looking car starting at 23k? I cant see how this will fail for Hyundai. I wouldnt buy one over the 370z but I sure as hell would buy it over any of the FWD sporty coupes out there now like the Altima or Accord coupes...I think Hyundai has a winner here...In this economy this car makes perfect sense imho...

Don't forget,

If you look at the 2.0T option... You have a 6speed RWD coupe with the same block as the Evo; 4B11. Not to mention that Hyundai has already said it will handle over 29lbs of boost. Granted that is a blanket statement as we don't know whether its 29lbs out of a 14b mitsu turbo or a GT35R. BUUUTTT the fact that Hyundai is touting that it's a machine that is meant to be upgraded is good enough in my eyes.(It has all forged internals) This will become the next "Mustang" of the import world. Cheap, Fast "reliable" power. The R-spec 2.0T will have Brembo 14inch brakes with 4-pot calipers all the way round, stiffer suspension, bigger wheels....etc..etc... The Gen Coupe will hold its own.

Personally I'd take the Z as I'm sure its a much more refined daily driver, but if I was looking for a drag strip monster that could get me to work..I think the 2.0T would fit the bill.

The Z is a great car for what it is, YET if you don't have the cash for a Z then Hyundai has made a car that will get you into a 2 door, RWD 6speed coupe, for less. I feel they are in two different classes. If one is looking at the new Civic SI or GTI or Altima Coupe, they might swing by Hyundai and look at the Gen Coupe. BUT if your looking at an Rx8 or Charger/Mustang then you will find folks looking into the Z.

This might sound repetitive but you kinda have this "niche" that the Z falls into. Its above the Gen Coupe, but it's not quite Porsche Cayman material, but its cheaper then a vette, and although you think the Rx8 handles nice you can't get over the fact that its powerless...so you find yourself at the Z. Catch my drift?

I wouldn't be caught dead in a hyundai but I suppose there was a time when the same would've been said about a nissan (datsun) : )

First off, your metaphor is off the wall. My head hurts.

Back to topic. These days, I see Hyundai as a replica maker. Just like some of you have said about the accords, corollas, and jettas. Hyundai just make their replica version and charge less. Quality wise...still not as good as the original ones. Sometimes its pretty decent, and sometimes its down the gutter. Will there be a market? Yes. I believed it will appealed to the buyers where numbers/specs per dollar ratio have a higher priority.

Now I will never rule out any makers for eternity. Things can change and who knows whats gonna happen in 10 or 20 years. Until they proven otherwise, Hyundai will not be on my list along with domestic in the near future.

Its too bad we didn't have forums in '69 so we could go back and read essentially what is written here about the Genesis. Look at the 240Z - wasn't it about half the price of the Corvette and close to the same performance. They copied a lot of different cars to come up with 240Z... it was smart - take the best bits of a few cars and make your own.

FWD though.... ewwww.....

Guys, this is not 20 years ago Hyundai. For the last +15 years they have been going through rigorous re-engineering of their operations and management, and the result has been showing up in their reliability, quality, and designs.

They just won Ward's Auto 2009 Ten Top Engine of the world, Ward's Auto declares Ten Best Engines of 2009 - Autoblog,

And for the last 10+ years, Hyundai has been rated above the average reliability and quality in the car industry, they are acutually better than Infinity and Nissan.

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And here are some pictures of Hyundai Genesis Coupe in South Korea...

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Holy Sh1t! That actually looks good. Wow!:eek:

Are you sure that is a Hyundai? LOL. It does look good but I would like to see how it does on a track.

You can't compare a genesis to a 370z, the genesis is 10k cheaper and japanese motoring is much superior.

The same comparision will be made placing the 370z to a BMW 335Ci, the Z is 10K cheaper and german motoring is far more superior. (And i am not talking about lap times or the usual 0-60 crap).

Bring it on bitches..... the Stig


Edit>- Someone hacked my laptop and wrote that. i wanted to delete but i want to know what do you guys think.

:bowrofl: Right, I'm pretty sure they did! :icon17:

I think the genesis is going to be a cheap tuner car.

^^ like civics???



the rear looks good but then the front just looks plain olde ugly!!

That Genesis look very good!! Not my style however.

^^^ nice way to say it's ugly...hahahahaha

wtf rsx and accord mix ew

^^ take some Pepto-Bismol,it'll help you out there




the rear is good, the headlights and front bumper are just funky

Yeah it's kind of reminding me of the mitsubishi eclipse of the mid to late 90's, not from it's looks but the niche it will occupy in the car market... Fast and Furious tuner car for teens and young/immature adults.

Hyundai Genesis Coupe drifting in desert..

Seems like some people are really getting into modding this car

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I gotta say it's a lot better looking than the Hyundai Tiburon but it's not in the same class as the 370Z.

Still buying a Z.

Always playing devils advocate. I didn't think this thread would take up 4 pages.

I won't get rep points for this, but I like the Genesis. I like that Hyundai has stepped up and challenged the Mustang on this one. After seeing the Genesis sedan, I have total faith that despite it's looks, it will be a great car. Cheers to a cheap muscle car you can drive without wearing camo!

I want to take offense to that as many of my best teenage memories are in a friend's Talon, but you're 100% right.

^^ LOL......it's a start for Hyundai......wait til the next generation comes out.....

I saw the coupe in incheon airport in korea and it looks nice the bbk is huge looking brembo ftw