Genesis Vs. 370Z

NIZMOZ · 02-19-2009, 09:15 PM

That's funny, because you have told me what cars you have had on your trips and you never mentioned that one.

theDreamer · 02-19-2009, 09:41 PM

United States M.S.R.P. prices are based on the six different trim levels:

- 2.0T Base $22,000 - 2.0T Premium $24,250 - 2.0T Track $26,750 - 3.8 Base $25,000 - 3.8 Grand Touring $27,500 - 3.8 Track $29,500

I have been reading through this thread and have kept an eye on the Genesis. Personally I prefer the Z over the Genesis by a long shot (my opinion), but have been intrigued that Hyundai has jump so high and taken some long shots at the higher players. Looking through many pictures and seeing the inside though, I must say the Z has the step up here. Genesis has a chance to take the sub 30k crowd, but I think people are going to keep the Z in a different class. I am sure they will be compared till the end, but perspective is a major seller. The Z made a wise choice by going with the 30-40k crowd, and the Genesis will take the 20-30k crowd.

semtex · 03-22-2009, 12:48 PM

This is in the current issue of AutoWeek.

Rear drive, sporty attitude adds up to big fun in Hyundai Genesis Coupe: AutoWeek Magazine

In a world where gaps in product lines are filled as quickly as they open, Hyundai--yes, Hyundai--has found a new one. Let's call it the semi-affordable, pretty-good-looking, rear-wheel-drive performance-coupe segment. Hyundai has identified and filled that gap with the surprisingly sporty Genesis Coupe.

It is not simply a two-door version of the Genesis sedan. Hyundai says the Coupe shares only the rear subframe, rear suspension and a ZF six-speed automatic transmission with the sedan.

The entry-level coupe, starting at about $23,000, is powered by a 210-hp, 2.0-liter turbo four. Above that is a $26,000-to-$30,000 306-hp, 3.8-liter V6. There's not much in the way of competition offering that particular combination.

So, what's it like to drive?

First, a caveat: Disregard those Web sites that have "first drives" of the Genesis Coupe. Those guys drove Korean-spec cars, tuned for luxury. We will get a much more performance-oriented car than that.

After a day spent lapping the Streets of Willow racetrack in Southern California, along with a short drive over two-lane highways, we can say that the new Coupe felt surprisingly taut, responsive and downright fun to drive--more than we expected, frankly.

Our first drive was in a 2.0-liter turbo four with the Track package and the traction and stability control turned off. We were all ready to experience a shorter version of the luxurious and somewhat soft Genesis Sedan, like a Korean SC400. So when we launched onto the Streets' uphill front straight with a chirp from the rear tires and steering that actually communicated, we were startled. This car was downright sprightly, fairly leaping out of the blocks.

The MacPherson strut front and five-link rear kept the tires on the ground and pointed in the right direction all the way. Laps in the V6 variant were similar in terms of handling, only quicker. You pay only a 95-pound weight penalty for the extra 96 hp. Curb weight of the base four-cylinder model is 3,294 pounds versus 3,389 for the V6. About 54 percent of that weight is on the front axle.

There was way more power available in the V6 than we could wrangle out on the short connecting links between the Streets' tight turns (Hyundai lists 0 to 60 mph for the V6 at less than 6 seconds). As we said, we did all of our laps with traction and stability control off yet rarely felt the rear end get squirrelly.

It's a well-balanced car. All our drives also were in cars with the Track package and its 19-inch wheels with summer Bridgestones--225/40 fronts and 245/40 rears, upgraded Brembo brakes, a limited-slip differential and a "track-tuned" suspension with stiffer springs and shocks.

Both four- and six-cylinder models come standard with a six-speed manual transmission. The four-cylinder has an optional five-speed auto while the V6 model lists a ZF six-speed automatic.

So Hyundai's march to world domination continues unabated, even going so far as to conquer segments without anything yet in them. Hyundai hopes there are enough enthusiast buyers out there to support the presence of fun cars such as this one.

SPECS
2010 Hyundai Genesis Coupe

On sale: February/March

Base price: $23,000 (est--prices announced at Chicago auto show)

Drivetrain: 2.0-liter, 210-hp, 223-lb-ft, turbocharged I4; RWD, six-speed manual

Curb weight: 3,294 lb

0-60 mph: Less than 6 seconds for V6 (mfr)

Fuel economy: 25 mpg combined city/hwy (mfr est)

trema · 03-22-2009, 01:29 PM

I don't know how Autoweek can say this is a brand-new, wholly-unique segment. Hyundai is making a 2+2... just because it's cheap doesn't mean it's in a class by itself.

BanningZ · 03-22-2009, 03:57 PM

NOOOO!!!! Semtex awoke the beast! I thought this thread had died off.

Mods move this sucker to OT "other vehicles" please.

I think I officially despise the Genesis now. It has been discussed and pictures have been posted so much that when ever I see the Genesis now I just see the same kids that drive Neons around here and 93' Civic sedans with bench wing spoilers, blitz kits, and neon blinking windshield sprayers.

Just another car ready to accept all that the Autozone and Pepboys accessories aisle has to offer.

Pianoman · 03-24-2009, 09:42 AM

Frankly..... Any auto group has those "autozone, pepboy junkies"

AMS here in Chicago, And Buschar Racing both picked up 2.0T Gen coupes and AMS is already picking it apart to start making parts for it.... IF you know anything about either of those company's expect them to turn them into 9 second dragsters sometime next year, if not sooner..This car will be the new "fox body of the import world"...and by that I mean it won't take much to get it into the 300-400hp range for cheap... Full Exhaust, up the boost,add some fuel, and maybe a clutch/intercooler and this will probably surpass the Z in a straight line..I speak only for the 2.0T..not the V6

If you feel like comparing the Z to the Coupe, which I wouldn't they are 2 different cars, Keep it to the V6....Those 2.0T's will probably become drag queens...Heck thats the only reason I'd get a Gencoupe anyhow.. 400whp+ DD....I highly doubt the chassis is as tuned as the Z's and car for car, corner for corner, stock or modified suspension...I would think the Z would be better in the curves... Being that the Z is a 2 seater it puts it with the Porsche Boxster/Cayman category, maybe even base model vette's?? I love the Z but its unrealistic to have 2 seater with no back up vehicle... Leaving a 2+2 a better option for a consumer in my position Rx8/Gencoupe/Ford Crapstain...For the price of a Civic Si, or Gti, why not look at the gen 2.0T..? ....and let me add the 370 shouldn't have back seats.. it would take away from what they redesigned the car to be...

Greg · 03-24-2009, 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pianoman

Frankly..... Any auto group has those "autozone, pepboy junkies"

Well thats true to some degree.. But statistically... You do see more civic's, neon's, Tibby's and focus's etc at those places than most other sporty type cars like GTI's, S2k's, Rx7's or 8's and most Z's (tho the 350z looks to be the next in line for AutoPepMart enrollment

).

But hey enough of the sugar coating.. Consumables,cleaners and wax etc.. fine. I stop by myself for filters and wax.

But if you buy mods, performance parts or service your car there? Your either broke or a cheapskate with no taste.

GenesisFanboi · 04-01-2009, 03:58 AM

GO HYUNDAI Genesis!!!!

BanningZ · 04-01-2009, 04:49 AM

^Are you Kaiser? I think you are.

XBadgerX · 04-01-2009, 08:32 AM

This is too hilarious for today

ssqpolo · 04-01-2009, 08:44 AM

WTF HAPPEND TO THE FORUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol. make it stop...or im buying a Hyundai!

nogoodname · 04-01-2009, 09:25 AM

burning my eyes...lol.....

EVO-to-G · 04-01-2009, 09:31 AM

i thought i was on the wrong forum..im like WTF!

thats messed up.

BrokenVow · 04-01-2009, 10:09 AM

I've been wondering which of these two cars to buy. Ultimately, it came down to the blinding speed and razor sharp handling of the Genesis over the Z.

Lug · 04-01-2009, 10:43 AM

I believe these colors are the new Genesis interior color scheme.

02-19-2009, 09:15 PM	#226 (permalink)
NIZMOZ Track Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 634 Drives: 07 NISMO 350Z SA M6 Rep Power: 491	That's funny, because you have told me what cars you have had on your trips and you never mentioned that one. __________________ SOLD: 2007 NISMO 350Z #0044 Silver Alloy New DD: 2010 Titan Pro4X CC

03-22-2009, 12:48 PM	#228 (permalink)
semtex A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Behind enemy lines Age: 54 Posts: 5,995 Drives: People to drink Rep Power: 32	This is in the current issue of AutoWeek. Rear drive, sporty attitude adds up to big fun in Hyundai Genesis Coupe: AutoWeek Magazine In a world where gaps in product lines are filled as quickly as they open, Hyundai--yes, Hyundai--has found a new one. Let's call it the semi-affordable, pretty-good-looking, rear-wheel-drive performance-coupe segment. Hyundai has identified and filled that gap with the surprisingly sporty Genesis Coupe. It is not simply a two-door version of the Genesis sedan. Hyundai says the Coupe shares only the rear subframe, rear suspension and a ZF six-speed automatic transmission with the sedan. The entry-level coupe, starting at about $23,000, is powered by a 210-hp, 2.0-liter turbo four. Above that is a $26,000-to-$30,000 306-hp, 3.8-liter V6. There's not much in the way of competition offering that particular combination. So, what's it like to drive? First, a caveat: Disregard those Web sites that have "first drives" of the Genesis Coupe. Those guys drove Korean-spec cars, tuned for luxury. We will get a much more performance-oriented car than that. After a day spent lapping the Streets of Willow racetrack in Southern California, along with a short drive over two-lane highways, we can say that the new Coupe felt surprisingly taut, responsive and downright fun to drive--more than we expected, frankly. Our first drive was in a 2.0-liter turbo four with the Track package and the traction and stability control turned off. We were all ready to experience a shorter version of the luxurious and somewhat soft Genesis Sedan, like a Korean SC400. So when we launched onto the Streets' uphill front straight with a chirp from the rear tires and steering that actually communicated, we were startled. This car was downright sprightly, fairly leaping out of the blocks. The MacPherson strut front and five-link rear kept the tires on the ground and pointed in the right direction all the way. Laps in the V6 variant were similar in terms of handling, only quicker. You pay only a 95-pound weight penalty for the extra 96 hp. Curb weight of the base four-cylinder model is 3,294 pounds versus 3,389 for the V6. About 54 percent of that weight is on the front axle. There was way more power available in the V6 than we could wrangle out on the short connecting links between the Streets' tight turns (Hyundai lists 0 to 60 mph for the V6 at less than 6 seconds). As we said, we did all of our laps with traction and stability control off yet rarely felt the rear end get squirrelly. It's a well-balanced car. All our drives also were in cars with the Track package and its 19-inch wheels with summer Bridgestones--225/40 fronts and 245/40 rears, upgraded Brembo brakes, a limited-slip differential and a "track-tuned" suspension with stiffer springs and shocks. Both four- and six-cylinder models come standard with a six-speed manual transmission. The four-cylinder has an optional five-speed auto while the V6 model lists a ZF six-speed automatic. So Hyundai's march to world domination continues unabated, even going so far as to conquer segments without anything yet in them. Hyundai hopes there are enough enthusiast buyers out there to support the presence of fun cars such as this one. SPECS 2010 Hyundai Genesis Coupe On sale: February/March Base price: $23,000 (est--prices announced at Chicago auto show) Drivetrain: 2.0-liter, 210-hp, 223-lb-ft, turbocharged I4; RWD, six-speed manual Curb weight: 3,294 lb 0-60 mph: Less than 6 seconds for V6 (mfr) Fuel economy: 25 mpg combined city/hwy (mfr est) __________________ "There are no small accidents on this circuit." -- Ayrton Senna 316.8whp & 248 ft/lbs (Dyno Dynamics) \| 319whp & 256 ft/lbs (DynoJet) (04/23/10) Stillen G3 CAI, CBE, Pulley / F.I. LTH / GTSpec Ladder Brace / Setrab Oil Cooler / UpRev-tuned by Forged Perf.

03-22-2009, 01:29 PM	#229 (permalink)
trema Base Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 91 Drives: 09 370z K51 R Rep Power: 596	I don't know how Autoweek can say this is a brand-new, wholly-unique segment. Hyundai is making a 2+2... just because it's cheap doesn't mean it's in a class by itself. __________________ 'Lesca'-2009 370z Touring 6MT w/Sports & Nav- Platinum Graphite/Persimmon. FLO,IKP,SCG,TMA

03-22-2009, 03:57 PM	#230 (permalink)
BanningZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: nowhere Posts: 5,478 Drives: 06' Nismo Frontier Rep Power: 29	NOOOO!!!! Semtex awoke the beast! I thought this thread had died off. Mods move this sucker to OT "other vehicles" please. I think I officially despise the Genesis now. It has been discussed and pictures have been posted so much that when ever I see the Genesis now I just see the same kids that drive Neons around here and 93' Civic sedans with bench wing spoilers, blitz kits, and neon blinking windshield sprayers. Just another car ready to accept all that the Autozone and Pepboys accessories aisle has to offer. __________________ Become a Premium Member: Click HERE MB 06' Nismo VQ40DE

03-24-2009, 09:42 AM	#231 (permalink)
Pianoman Base Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Aurora Il. Posts: 5 Drives: 20th Annivrsy Gti Rep Power: 16	Frankly..... Any auto group has those "autozone, pepboy junkies" AMS here in Chicago, And Buschar Racing both picked up 2.0T Gen coupes and AMS is already picking it apart to start making parts for it.... IF you know anything about either of those company's expect them to turn them into 9 second dragsters sometime next year, if not sooner..This car will be the new "fox body of the import world"...and by that I mean it won't take much to get it into the 300-400hp range for cheap... Full Exhaust, up the boost,add some fuel, and maybe a clutch/intercooler and this will probably surpass the Z in a straight line..I speak only for the 2.0T..not the V6 If you feel like comparing the Z to the Coupe, which I wouldn't they are 2 different cars, Keep it to the V6....Those 2.0T's will probably become drag queens...Heck thats the only reason I'd get a Gencoupe anyhow.. 400whp+ DD....I highly doubt the chassis is as tuned as the Z's and car for car, corner for corner, stock or modified suspension...I would think the Z would be better in the curves... Being that the Z is a 2 seater it puts it with the Porsche Boxster/Cayman category, maybe even base model vette's?? I love the Z but its unrealistic to have 2 seater with no back up vehicle... Leaving a 2+2 a better option for a consumer in my position Rx8/Gencoupe/Ford Crapstain...For the price of a Civic Si, or Gti, why not look at the gen 2.0T..? ....and let me add the 370 shouldn't have back seats.. it would take away from what they redesigned the car to be... Last edited by Pianoman; 03-24-2009 at 01:26 PM.

02-19-2009, 09:41 PM	#227 (permalink)
theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4210	United States M.S.R.P. prices are based on the six different trim levels: - 2.0T Base $22,000 - 2.0T Premium $24,250 - 2.0T Track $26,750 - 3.8 Base $25,000 - 3.8 Grand Touring $27,500 - 3.8 Track $29,500 I have been reading through this thread and have kept an eye on the Genesis. Personally I prefer the Z over the Genesis by a long shot (my opinion), but have been intrigued that Hyundai has jump so high and taken some long shots at the higher players. Looking through many pictures and seeing the inside though, I must say the Z has the step up here. Genesis has a chance to take the sub 30k crowd, but I think people are going to keep the Z in a different class. I am sure they will be compared till the end, but perspective is a major seller. The Z made a wise choice by going with the 30-40k crowd, and the Genesis will take the 20-30k crowd.

04-01-2009, 03:58 AM	#233 (permalink)
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04-01-2009, 04:49 AM	#234 (permalink)
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04-01-2009, 08:32 AM	#235 (permalink)
XBadgerX Base Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Virginia Posts: 105 Drives: 07 Honda 600RR Rep Power: 16	This is too hilarious for today Last edited by XBadgerX; 04-01-2009 at 08:41 AM.

04-01-2009, 08:44 AM	#236 (permalink)
ssqpolo Track Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 882 Drives: '12 Black Nismo Rep Power: 267	WTF HAPPEND TO THE FORUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol. make it stop...or im buying a Hyundai!

04-01-2009, 09:25 AM	#237 (permalink)
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04-01-2009, 09:31 AM	#238 (permalink)
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04-01-2009, 10:09 AM	#239 (permalink)
BrokenVow Base Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Tacoma, Wa Posts: 37 Drives: 2004 Volvo S60R 6MT Rep Power: 16	I've been wondering which of these two cars to buy. Ultimately, it came down to the blinding speed and razor sharp handling of the Genesis over the Z.

04-01-2009, 10:43 AM	#240 (permalink)
Lug A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 1,926 Drives: 2006 350Z Rep Power: 19	I believe these colors are the new Genesis interior color scheme. __________________ keep Chubbs in your pocket - Chubbs