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k20z3 06-27-2009 12:27 PM

god this makes me feel like ****

FricFrac 06-27-2009 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by kgreen (Post 100830)
i am 21 and i was about to close a deal on my new PG sport pkg. 370z last month but decided instead to take advantage of this $8000 tax credit for first time homeowners. my house is in construction now and will be done late october. The $8000 tax credit will go to the Z when i get it in around spring/summer

Very wise and the pay off will be huge down the road. It can be a struggle at first but it really is a wise idea.

Oh and for those who think renting is a great idea because wealthy people do it consider this - each time you make a rent payment that money is gone forever - you may as well burn it or flush it down the toilet. If you have a mortgage at least half that money is going into your house and even if you don't gain/loose when you sell your house you've "saved" that money....

If you can sit on real estate especially in larger cities (well here in Canada at least) you basically double your money on average every 10 years.

frost 06-27-2009 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by antennahead (Post 100807)
It's really not so much about "size" amymore. Many are downsizing for energy conservation. I think the size should fit ones needs and lifestyle. Mine is only 2200 sq/ft, but the great room and kitchen are very large and open, as is the master bedroom........ 1000 sq/ft deck on the back as well. You can tailor something perfect to your needs without having to be too big :tiphat:

John

Yeah, thank god the trend of the McMansions is over with. But I agree, home to fit the lifestyle. We needed a separate room where I could do school work very far away from the television room, which is the only reason I even have a place this big. I don't have any kids or anything, just need enough room to get some peace and quiet.

antennahead 06-27-2009 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by frost (Post 100883)
Yeah, thank god the trend of the McMansions is over with. But I agree, home to fit the lifestyle. We needed a separate room where I could do school work very far away from the television room, which is the only reason I even have a place this big. I don't have any kids or anything, just need enough room to get some peace and quiet.

Peace and quiet is a good thing ;) I need my down time as well!

John

gatorfast 06-27-2009 01:46 PM

For those who have mentioned rich people renting because they think its smarter, that is absolutely ridiculous. No one would not buy a house because they want to invest instead. If you live within your means you can pay the same amount per month for a mortgage then you would for rent. Also, any true investor would use leverage...take out a mortgage with a low rate and invest the money you have to produce a higher rate of return.

antennahead 06-27-2009 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by gatorfast (Post 100914)
For those who have mentioned rich people renting because they think its smarter, that is absolutely ridiculous. No one would not buy a house because they want to invest instead. If you live within your means you can pay the same amount per month for a mortgage then you would for rent. Also, any true investor would use leverage...take out a mortgage with a low rate and invest the money you have to produce a higher rate of return.

And now has never been a better time to buy, if you can afford the payment and/or have the cash. There are some sweet deals to be had in this down market, steals if you are a savvy shopper!

John

Pushing_Tin 06-27-2009 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by antennahead (Post 100948)
And now has never been a better time to buy, if you can afford the payment and/or have the cash. There are some sweet deals to be had in this down market, steals if you are a savvy shopper!

John

Exactly! While interest rates have crept up the past few weeks they are still at historic lows. That the $8k tax credit and many desperate sellers/short sales now is the time to buy.

XenChi 06-27-2009 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by gatorfast (Post 100914)
For those who have mentioned rich people renting because they think its smarter, that is absolutely ridiculous. No one would not buy a house because they want to invest instead. If you live within your means you can pay the same amount per month for a mortgage then you would for rent. Also, any true investor would use leverage...take out a mortgage with a low rate and invest the money you have to produce a higher rate of return.

*cough-B.S.-cough*:rolleyes:

Plain and simple a home is a liability until it is finally sold. Purchase assets, and limit your financial exposure to liabilities and you will achieve wealth. Take your time plan and your moves wisely. When you have saved enough money for a substantial down-payment on a home get a consultation with Goldman Sachs and then decide what's truly best for you. You may be surprised.

One_Quick_Z 06-28-2009 12:33 AM

I also Plan on a Refi while the rates are low I have to call Wells Fargo some time this week or next



DAN

antennahead 06-28-2009 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by XenChi (Post 101285)
*cough-B.S.-cough*:rolleyes:

Plain and simple a home is a liability until it is finally sold. Purchase assets, and limit your financial exposure to liabilities and you will achieve wealth. Take your time plan and your moves wisely. When you have saved enough money for a substantial down-payment on a home get a consultation with Goldman Sachs and then decide what's truly best for you. You may be surprised.

A home is a liability? And what school of economics did you graduate from? The loan on your home is a liability, balance sheet wise. The property itself is an asset. If you buy right, and in this economy there is no better time to get a deal on a home, you will over time almost always have an appreciating asset. Yes home values have dropped in this recession, but if you have owned for years, the long term appreciation is still there.

John

XenChi 06-28-2009 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by antennahead (Post 101326)
A home is a liability? And what school of economics did you graduate from? The loan on your home is a liability, balance sheet wise. The property itself is an asset. If you buy right, and in this economy there is no better time to get a deal on a home, you will over time almost always have an appreciating asset. Yes home values have dropped in this recession, but if you have owned for years, the long term appreciation is still there.

John

Georgetown University, and you? Home = maintenance, insurance, higher utility bills and other associated costs...... thus a liability until sold. Also does your home truly "appreciate" or is it's higher "value" in direct correlation with the depreciation of the United States dollar?;)

FricFrac 06-28-2009 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by XenChi (Post 101285)
*cough-B.S.-cough*:rolleyes:

Plain and simple a home is a liability until it is finally sold. Purchase assets, and limit your financial exposure to liabilities and you will achieve wealth. Take your time plan and your moves wisely. When you have saved enough money for a substantial down-payment on a home get a consultation with Goldman Sachs and then decide what's truly best for you. You may be surprised.

... you're right I should have invested in the stock market.... LOL!

If you didn't need to pay for housing then what you are saying has some merit but as most people who actually know about real estate can tell you that its the closest thing to a sure thing in investments..... stocks suck but I can tell you even in the worst market I've never seen rent go down and even now in this economy the vacancy rate here is only 1.2%. Besides if you are at the stage where you are renting out one of your properties you have someone paying your debt off for you and you are building equity in your investment at the same time. Take out a loan for an investment in the stock market and see how your return pays that loan off AND earns you money...

My dad lost about 40% of his life savings in mutal funds, etc - you know the safe bets. If he had kept his real estate he would own multi millions in real estate and easily live off the rentals alone.... but he listened to his investors (multiple investors - he would give them each $10K and switch to the one who made the best investments for him) and got rid of his real estate to fund his next project.... I won`t be making that mistake....

antennahead 06-28-2009 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by XenChi (Post 101336)
Georgetown University, and you? Home = maintenance, insurance, higher utility bills and other associated costs...... thus a liability until sold. Also does your home truly "appreciate" or is it's higher "value" in direct correlation with the depreciation of the United States dollar?;)

Well you just go right ahead and rent then.............. :rofl2:

antennahead 06-28-2009 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by FricFrac (Post 101382)
... you're right I should have invested in the stock market.... LOL!

If you didn't need to pay for housing then what you are saying has some merit but as most people who actually know about real estate can tell you that its the closest thing to a sure thing in investments..... stocks suck but I can tell you even in the worst market I've never seen rent go down and even now in this economy the vacancy rate here is only 1.2%. Besides if you are at the stage where you are renting out one of your properties you have someone paying your debt off for you and you are building equity in your investment at the same time. Take out a loan for an investment in the stock market and see how your return pays that loan off AND earns you money...

My dad lost about 40% of his life savings in mutal funds, etc - you know the safe bets. If he had kept his real estate he would own multi millions in real estate and easily live off the rentals alone.... but he listened to his investors (multiple investors - he would give them each $10K and switch to the one who made the best investments for him) and got rid of his real estate to fund his next project.... I won`t be making that mistake....

Stop, he went to Georgetown University :rolleyes:

tru_Asiatik 06-28-2009 11:15 AM

im hood rich(nice car with no home)...i live inside my Z :D


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