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Old 09-01-2012, 03:30 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Cool. Review wasn't lazy, random regurgitation or PR for other cars. It was actually Z relevant. Win!
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Old 09-01-2012, 06:28 PM   #2 (permalink)
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not a bad review, nice to know you have to work it, and that is why I enjoy my Z,
problems are probably because its Press Car and everyone it testing it.

I have almost 20K on my in a year, and it still runs nice and strong, just wished I had more time to autocross it than I have only 3 times since I got it in October 11
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not a bad review, nice to know you have to work it, and that is why I enjoy my Z,
problems are probably because its Press Car and everyone it testing it.

I have almost 20K on my in a year, and it still runs nice and strong, just wished I had more time to autocross it than I have only 3 times since I got it in October 11
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Old 09-03-2012, 12:12 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Hmmm, pretty fair review compared to some I've seen

I do find this car is tougher to manipulate than some others but thats why I love it and everyday I'm still learning how to get the most out of it

I never get tired of seeing a Z in action (since I never get to see me driving lol)
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Anyone know what the pros and cons are for the torsen vs. a quaife?
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Anyone know what the pros and cons are for the torsen vs. a quaife?
the quaife is a torsen
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oops, i thought we were referring to a brand, haha, ok.
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oops, i thought we were referring to a brand, haha, ok.
I guess technically Torsen is a brand, but it's a bit like Kleenex or Band-aid, in that everyone refers to helical diffs as torsens.
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An honest review. Nissan makes a brute type of car w/ power and torque.
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I'm just glad he wasn't blindly bashing it like most people seem to have been doing in their reviews lately.
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I'm just glad he wasn't blindly bashing it like most people seem to have been doing in their reviews lately.
You know whats wrong with car magazines today. Car guys don't test cars. journalists do. Corporate sponsored drones who test cars based on a one sided spectrum vs the universal spectrum of the automotive industry.

So if a guy loves Camry's? He expects the z to have 6 cup-holders. If he loves Cadillac's...Why doesn't the z have 12 memory power seats? If he loves Mustangs... Why can't the Z have a V8... This isn't car reviewing.

Are they basing a car on its talents or your bias interpretation of a sports car. It's ok for a reviewer to express his preferences in order for the consumer to relate to the driver and understand why he would prefer a, lets say, "Mustang" over a Z. But it's another to compare the cars as if they serve the same performance purpose, when they don't.

At least mustang has camaro and challenger to show up. The genesis coupe can go 10k upmarket and battle the G37 and 3 series. In a way, the 2.0 and FR-S doesn't match but makes more sense due to them being priced equally and both being RWD 4 seat coupes.
The Z has no competitor in its class and can only be compared the Porsche Cayman S, Boxster and BMW Z4 over $20k upmarket, double what the gencoupe deals with.... They can say the others are more refined but can't say they outperform the Z. So the Z needs to be underdogged by near non-competitors in order to keep the corporate sponsors happy. The Z is too unique in its price-point and other car companies are to scared to make a real competitor. Imagine GM's version of a Z? Or ford? Dodge maybe? lol.

The vette is something else... Japanese couldn't make a vette... Americans can't build a Z. And you can't review them like they are one of the same. BUT that's what american/british magazines do.

WE NEED TO GET CAR GUYS BACK IN THE CAR MAGS.

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You know whats wrong with car magazines today. Car guys don't test cars. journalists do. Corporate sponsored drones who test cars based on a one sided spectrum vs the universal spectrum of the automotive industry.

So if a guy loves Camry's? He expects the z to have 6 cup-holders. If he loves Cadillac's...Why doesn't the z have 12 memory power seats? If he loves Mustangs... Why can't the Z have a V8... This isn't car reviewing.

Are they basing a car on its talents or your bias interpretation of a sports car. It's ok for a reviewer to express his preferences in order for the consumer to relate to the driver and understand why he would prefer a, lets say, "Mustang" over a Z. But it's another to compare the cars as if they serve the same performance purpose, when they don't.

At least mustang has camaro and challenger to show up. The genesis coupe can go 10k upmarket and battle the G37 and 3 series. In a way, the 2.0 and FR-S doesn't match but makes more sense due to them being priced equally and both being RWD 4 seat coupes.
The Z has no competitor in its class and can only be compared the Porsche Cayman S, Boxster and BMW Z4 over $20k upmarket, double what the gencoupe deals with.... They can say the others are more refined but can't say they outperform the Z. So the Z needs to be underdogged by near non-competitors in order to keep the corporate sponsors happy. The Z is too unique in its price-point and other car companies are to scared to make a real competitor. Imagine GM's version of a Z? Or ford? Dodge maybe? lol.

The vette is something else... Japanese couldn't make a vette... Americans can't build a Z. And you can't review them like they are one of the same. BUT that's what american/british magazines do.

WE NEED TO GET CAR GUYS BACK IN THE CAR MAGS.
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You know whats wrong with car magazines today. Car guys don't test cars. journalists do. Corporate sponsored drones who test cars based on a one sided spectrum vs the universal spectrum of the automotive industry.

So if a guy loves Camry's? He expects the z to have 6 cup-holders. If he loves Cadillac's...Why doesn't the z have 12 memory power seats? If he loves Mustangs... Why can't the Z have a V8... This isn't car reviewing.

Are they basing a car on its talents or your bias interpretation of a sports car. It's ok for a reviewer to express his preferences in order for the consumer to relate to the driver and understand why he would prefer a, lets say, "Mustang" over a Z. But it's another to compare the cars as if they serve the same performance purpose, when they don't.

At least mustang has camaro and challenger to show up. The genesis coupe can go 10k upmarket and battle the G37 and 3 series. In a way, the 2.0 and FR-S doesn't match but makes more sense due to them being priced equally and both being RWD 4 seat coupes.
The Z has no competitor in its class and can only be compared the Porsche Cayman S, Boxster and BMW Z4 over $20k upmarket, double what the gencoupe deals with.... They can say the others are more refined but can't say they outperform the Z. So the Z needs to be underdogged by near non-competitors in order to keep the corporate sponsors happy. The Z is too unique in its price-point and other car companies are to scared to make a real competitor. Imagine GM's version of a Z? Or ford? Dodge maybe? lol.

The vette is something else... Japanese couldn't make a vette... Americans can't build a Z. And you can't review them like they are one of the same. BUT that's what american/british magazines do.

WE NEED TO GET CAR GUYS BACK IN THE CAR MAGS.
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The Z has no competitor in its class and can only be compared the Porsche Cayman S, Boxster and BMW Z4 over $20k upmarket, double what the gencoupe deals with.... They can say the others are more refined but can't say they outperform the Z.
Eh, I agree to some extent, and I'd even throw in the Audi TT with that group, but make no mistake, stock-for-stock, a Cayman will most likely best a Z on any track.
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