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370Z_RACER 09-01-2012 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Z_ealot (Post 1897149)
eh no problem man, heck even i know my VLSD will eventually go out but i plan to replace it with a real LSD long before then anyway...still kinda disappointing that nissan would choose to cheap out on not putting a real LSD in there to begin with though or at least give us the option of putting one of their Nismo GT clutch type LSD on the car. i know i was just browsing through their build your own Z tool and noticed they now give you the option of choosing Nismo parts including the catback exhaust system.

everyone says this but I bet you dont even knwow what a new lsd would do

Z_ealot 09-01-2012 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Z_RACER (Post 1897349)
everyone says this but I bet you dont even knwow what a new lsd would do

your right i don't, but i do know the basic function of an LSD is to make sure power goes to the wheel with the most grip and the VLSD does that, but it will eventually wear out and have to be completely rebuilt. only thing i was saying is i would have liked a sturdier design from the factory.

asdfsammich 09-01-2012 03:30 PM

Cool. Review wasn't lazy, random regurgitation or PR for other cars. It was actually Z relevant. Win!

danegrey 09-01-2012 06:28 PM

not a bad review, nice to know you have to work it, and that is why I enjoy my Z,
problems are probably because its Press Car and everyone it testing it.

I have almost 20K on my in a year, and it still runs nice and strong, just wished I had more time to autocross it than I have only 3 times since I got it in October 11

Mt Tam I am 09-02-2012 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by danegrey (Post 1897593)
not a bad review, nice to know you have to work it, and that is why I enjoy my Z,
problems are probably because its Press Car and everyone it testing it.

I have almost 20K on my in a year, and it still runs nice and strong, just wished I had more time to autocross it than I have only 3 times since I got it in October 11

Be grateful. Still more than many.

UNKNOWN_370 09-03-2012 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by 370Z_RACER (Post 1897349)
everyone says this but I bet you dont even knwow what a new lsd would do

Since you know so much about LSD's... Can you explain the strengths and weaknesses between Nissan's in-house Vicious Limited slip differential and the much praised Torsen LSD that everyone praises?

Red__Zed 09-03-2012 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 1899725)
Since you know so much about LSD's... Can you explain the strengths and weaknesses between Nissan's in-house Vicious Limited slip differential and the much praised Torsen LSD that everyone praises?

the torsen keeps working past lap 1 :roflpuke2:

LiquidCrewZ 09-03-2012 11:26 AM

Great review and I agree but that z has been beaten on it's whole life to test its performance. The dude recognized that and test it for what it was. Just a really fun, fast, car to drive. Even if it's a repost, it's a great one.

UNKNOWN_370 09-03-2012 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1899777)
the torsen keeps working past lap 1 :roflpuke2:

lol... I was hoping you'd troll this thread. :icon18:

Red__Zed 09-03-2012 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 1899785)
lol... I was hoping you'd troll this thread. :icon18:

for the sake of giving a serious answer:

1: reduces (effectively removes) the heat issue; keeps working for track use
2: doesn't burn up after a couple of track days
3: significantly more consistent and predictable lockup, not to mention faster response with the torsen
4: fanbois don't tell people their torsen diff is a "vicious" differential :icon17:



The torsen still runs into delivery issues if you lift a tire, but for most weekend warriors, losing power over a curb isn't catastrophic (and may even be preferable)

TheGreatOne 09-03-2012 12:12 PM

Hmmm, pretty fair review compared to some I've seen

I do find this car is tougher to manipulate than some others but thats why I love it and everyday I'm still learning how to get the most out of it

I never get tired of seeing a Z in action (since I never get to see me driving lol)

UNKNOWN_370 09-03-2012 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1899794)
for the sake of giving a serious answer:

1: reduces (effectively removes) the heat issue; keeps working for track use
2: doesn't burn up after a couple of track days
3: significantly more consistent and predictable lockup, not to mention faster response with the torsen
4: fanbois don't tell people their torsen diff is a "vicious" differential :icon17:



The torsen still runs into delivery issues if you lift a tire, but for most weekend warriors, losing power over a curb isn't catastrophic (and may even be preferable)

Thanks... I knew that much, but I felt Mr. Racer should have schooled Z_ealot since he was so quick to pass judgement on his comment. Everyone's a critic but no one is an educator these days.

But you do have much more track time than me and I would like to ask you, between quaife and os giken. Which do you recommend as a dual street and track lsd and why? This I don't know so i'm seriously asking? Thanks in advance. :)

Z_ealot 09-03-2012 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 1899825)
Thanks... I knew that much, but I felt Mr. Racer should have schooled Z_ealot since he was so quick to pass judgement on his comment. Everyone's a critic but no one is an educator these days.

But you do have much more track time than me and I would like to ask you, between quaife and os giken. Which do you recommend as a dual street and track lsd and why? This I don't know so i'm seriously asking? Thanks in advance. :)

thats what i have wikipedia and books for on this type of stuff, no need for anybody to be "schooling" anyone, we are all here to learn one way or another :D

Red__Zed 09-03-2012 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 1899825)
Thanks... I knew that much, but I felt Mr. Racer should have schooled Z_ealot since he was so quick to pass judgement on his comment. Everyone's a critic but no one is an educator these days.

But you do have much more track time than me and I would like to ask you, between quaife and os giken. Which do you recommend as a dual street and track lsd and why? This I don't know so i'm seriously asking? Thanks in advance. :)

I've never run the OSG, but SPOHN and the other who use it have nothing but good to say about it.

I really personally have a strong preference towards torsen over clutch-type, mostly because the engagement on a clutch-type diff can be harsh, and the need to rebuild is a PITA. I understand that the OSG has relatively mild rebuild needs, and it doesn't come on too harshly. You'd probably be better served talking to someone that has run with one.

For my money, I'd go with quaife, although I will say that it seems like clutch-types are getting more civil.

UNKNOWN_370 09-03-2012 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1899859)
I've never run the OSG, but SPOHN and the other who use it have nothing but good to say about it.

I really personally have a strong preference towards torsen over clutch-type, mostly because the engagement on a clutch-type diff can be harsh, and the need to rebuild is a PITA. I understand that the OSG has relatively mild rebuild needs, and it doesn't come on too harshly. You'd probably be better served talking to someone that has run with one.

For my money, I'd go with quaife, although I will say that it seems like clutch-types are getting more civil.

Thanks, I'll hit up spohn. Leaning toward quaife myself, but so many good things said about OSG. I better get testimonials on it. I have experience on quaife, torsen, cusco and this in house vlsd. Cusco works well when it works but has a short life span and a major PITA to rebuild. I rather spend the extra money in something better. Quaifes worked great for me so I have some bias in that area so i can use some schooling. There are lots of LSD's out there for the Z now. Just wanna make the right purchase the first time around. Performance and reliability must be equally high.


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