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Hey guys, I recently purchased a base 370 and I love it so far. However, the one thing I miss from my old 350 is the LSD. I would love

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Old 06-25-2009, 05:05 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hey guys, I recently purchased a base 370 and I love it so far. However, the one thing I miss from my old 350 is the LSD. I would love to swap an LSD in, but I know it will void the warranty. So I've been contemplating trading up for an LSD equipped model, but I know I would lose my shirt in such a deal.

Does anyone have advice on this or is in a similar situation?

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Any particular reason your looking for an LSD? Do you track your car? Just curious bc I've owned 2 350's. One with and one without an LSD and I could never tell the difference with my driving style.

Your better off getting a clutch type LSD installed for track purposes anyhow. The VLSD, which comes on the Z, is crap from what I've read.
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Any particular reason your looking for an LSD? Do you track your car? Just curious bc I've owned 2 350's. One with and one without an LSD and I could never tell the difference with my driving style.

Your better off getting a clutch type LSD installed for track purposes anyhow. The VLSD, which comes on the Z, is crap from what I've read.
In general, VLSDs are only for comfort or road speed (as in oh, it's nice) purposes. It's a Torsen diff, which basically means it sucks... bad... if you really wanted to install a good diff and if you wanted to track often, you should get a Quaife clutch type, which is basically the god of diffs. It shouldn't void your entire warranty though. You may want to talk it up with your dealer.

In any case, if you just plan to use it as a daily driver, whether or not your have the differential installed will only show if you took a 90 degree turn at something like 40 mph. Then you'll feel the rear give out a bit since I think if you don't get the VLSD, it's probably just an open 2 way.
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In general, VLSDs are only for comfort or road speed (as in oh, it's nice) purposes. It's a Torsen diff, which basically means it sucks... bad... if you really wanted to install a good diff and if you wanted to track often, you should get a Quaife clutch type, which is basically the god of diffs. It shouldn't void your entire warranty though. You may want to talk it up with your dealer.

In any case, if you just plan to use it as a daily driver, whether or not your have the differential installed will only show if you took a 90 degree turn at something like 40 mph. Then you'll feel the rear give out a bit since I think if you don't get the VLSD, it's probably just an open 2 way.
The VLSD, is a viscous LSD, not torsen.

Quaife is not a clutch type LSD, but rather a gear type LSD. Torsen and quaife are both gear type LSDs.

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The VLSD, is a viscous LSD, not torsen.

Quaife is not a clutch type LSD, but rather a gear type LSD. Torsen and quaife are both gear type LSDs.

Articles: What's the Diff?: Grassroots Motorsports Magazine
Someone told me the VLSD in the 370Z was a Torsen produced one... well, that's completely wrong.

Who has clutch types? Maybe OS Giken or Kaaz?
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I had a fully loaded touring on my 350 and it was nice. I bought a 370 base when I traded in my 350 and in all honesty: my wife and I enjoy the cloth seats more than the leather, I don't worry about wearing out the outter edges of the leather seats, DC winters aren't so harsh so I'm not gonna miss seat warmers, as nice as the Bose system was, I certainly prefer a real premium system with high end door speakers, JBL sub, amp and double din head unit with back-up camera. VLSD I guess is nice, and as much as I consider myself a hardcore driver, the fact of the matter is, the most hardcore driving I'll do is driving down to Charlottesville on the winding backroads. I've never attended driving school, I don't race, I feel like a good driver, I've been told by those who can really drive that I'm a good driver, but when it comes down to it, who am I kidding. I'm no Cole Trickle. The Rays and bigger brakes woulda been nice but I wanted a Bubba Gump lip on my 350 but couldn't justify it and now I can get 'em cause I have "measly 18's". Sport package still needs an exhaust and intake and the synchro to me means that the years I spend burning out the clutch on my '96 Integra was in vein cause no there is no need for heal n toe. I think that the only mistake that can be made in buying a 370 is getting it in an automatic, there is no excuse for that!!!!
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I had a fully loaded touring on my 350 and it was nice. I bought a 370 base when I traded in my 350 and in all honesty: my wife and I enjoy the cloth seats more than the leather, I don't worry about wearing out the outter edges of the leather seats, DC winters aren't so harsh so I'm not gonna miss seat warmers, as nice as the Bose system was, I certainly prefer a real premium system with high end door speakers, JBL sub, amp and double din head unit with back-up camera. VLSD I guess is nice, and as much as I consider myself a hardcore driver, the fact of the matter is, the most hardcore driving I'll do is driving down to Charlottesville on the winding backroads. I've never attended driving school, I don't race, I feel like a good driver, I've been told by those who can really drive that I'm a good driver, but when it comes down to it, who am I kidding. I'm no Cole Trickle. The Rays and bigger brakes woulda been nice but I wanted a Bubba Gump lip on my 350 but couldn't justify it and now I can get 'em cause I have "measly 18's". Sport package still needs an exhaust and intake and the synchro to me means that the years I spend burning out the clutch on my '96 Integra was in vein cause no there is no need for heal n toe. I think that the only mistake that can be made in buying a 370 is getting it in an automatic, there is no excuse for that!!!!
There's no "problem" with having the 370z in an automatic. It's quicker
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I had a fully loaded touring on my 350 and it was nice. I bought a 3 I can get 'em cause I have "measly 18's". Sport package still needs an exhaust and intake and the synchro to me means that the years I spend burning out the clutch on my '96 Integra was in vein cause no there is no need for heal n toe. I think that the only mistake that can be made in buying a 370 is getting it in an automatic, there is no excuse for that!!!!
I can give you one reason for getting an automatic which is more than an excuse.
I suffer from paraplegia and am in a wheelchair so I use hand conrols to drive.
After test driving several sports cars under 40k. I found the 370z the most exciting
And entertaining paddleshift auto of the bunch.
Me as the novice racer am looking for an auto that shifts quickly and can rev up
To the the red for aggressive shifts. The gen coupe and 370z we're the only ones
To fit that bill. But with more available torque, much better handling and
Stronger acceleration the 370z fit the bill. It fit so much that I bought a new $3,000
Wheelchair that will fold tight enough to fit in that cubby hole of a trunk and still have just enough room for a sub box. Yes I can make miracles happen. Lol.
Nothing touches the z for the price.
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I think the sports package is pretty much a must have.
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I think the sports package is pretty much a must have.
Agreed - its hard to imagine why you'd want a sports car with out the sports.... weird. If it was for cost I'd hold off and save up - the difference in price overall is fairly small.
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I think the sports package is pretty much a must have.
I didnt see the point in waiting for a sports package when my base already had the spoilers and splash guards.
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^^^ yes what sensi09 said.

370 Purist - VLSD is NOT the same as a Torsen LSD. The 370 has a VLSD, not a Torsen. A Torsen LSD is generally considered one of the more desirable diffs ala S2000

-and yes both OS Giken and Kaaz use adjustable clutch type diffs
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Honestly if you plan to track the car you'd be upgrading every component the sport package comes with. The LSD would get swapped, the brakes would be upgraded, and SRM isn't a must have. The sport package is nice but not necessary at all.
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Honestly if you plan to track the car you'd be upgrading every component the sport package comes with. The LSD would get swapped, the brakes would be upgraded, and SRM isn't a must have. The sport package is nice but not necessary at all.
Disagree. Better wheels, more rubber on the ground, bigger brakes....what's not necessary about that. It's a sports car, it needs all these attributes and more really.

Sure you can spend another $8,000 on a set of new rims and tires, for what ?? That's not necessary.

Brembo brakes - another $4,000 That's questionable.

Change out the LSD - a couple of thousand with labour.

Well while I'm in there might as well get a better clutch - $4,000

Exhaust, DP, Remap - $ 3,000

You can try and void your warranty many times over as you try and rebuild the car. That's really not necessary.

It's a great car, no complaints, SPORT is a MUST.

You know I have to laugh as I write this. Some guys get fully loaded Z's spend another $20,000 + re-outfitting the vehicle, just to put them in the ball park of a Porsche. BUY A PORSCHE...

Oh ! how much I would love to have a Cayman S maybe even a new Boxster.

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Honestly if you plan to track the car you'd be upgrading every component the sport package comes with. The LSD would get swapped, the brakes would be upgraded, and SRM isn't a must have. The sport package is nice but not necessary at all.
Disagree.

99.9% of people are not going to upgrade the LSD or brakes on these cars. And the wheels are actually manufactured very well, although most people will swap them out for heavier, better looking ones.
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