Base Z - Regrets?

Sashimi · 06-26-2009, 04:10 AM

I got the Sport because of the LSD. I was thinking of swapping my own in, but I don't want to void the warranty, not yet anyways

Pharmacist · 06-26-2009, 08:48 AM

I think the sport package is actually a very good deal. I agree it's a must for a sports car. You get big powerful brakes, lightweight large rims with sticky performance tires, front and rear spoilers (maybe aerodynamically useless, but hey they look good), and the synchrorev which reduces clutch wear and enables smooth downshifts. Heel and toe is good, but for average daily cruising in the streets can get exhausting and cumbersome.

Re: warranty. You never know what Nissan may argue. They can argue that the upgraded LSD increased torque stress in the drivetrain, causing the driveshaft U joint to snap, or the transmission to grind a gear, or the crankshaft to throw a bearing, etc..... Don't you remember the whole GT-R fiasco?

Z-WHIZ · 06-26-2009, 02:14 PM

Thanks for the responses so far guys. I wouldn't mind getting a torsen unit, but again, I'd be afraid that they would void my warranty.

Pharmacist · 06-26-2009, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Z-WHIZ

Thanks for the responses so far guys. I wouldn't mind getting a torsen unit, but again, I'd be afraid that they would void my warranty.

It really depends. Obviously, if you make a warranty claim cuz your power window is not working, or your AC compressor blew up, that's fine. If it's something drivetrain related, engine, transmission, drive shaft, differential, half shafts, etc... they might give you a hard time. Of course, this may only happen if for one reason or another they opened the differential cover and discovered the upgrade.

travisjb · 06-26-2009, 06:12 PM

bingo! how often are they going to open your diff cover !

and if you know that's going to happen, swap back.

TonyBPD · 06-26-2009, 08:23 PM

I couldn't be happier with my base model. My wife is the primary driver and she DOES NOT need 19 inch wheels. Without a doubt the best sports car I have owned. She does not need big brakes either.

sensi09 · 06-26-2009, 08:26 PM

Warranty really shouldn't be an issue with a LSD.

My main concern with a LSD, other than performance, is how it is in terms of noise and regular driving.

For those characteristics, I'd look into a quaife, cusco or carbonetics LSD.

mrarroyo · 06-27-2009, 08:46 AM

Love my base model, did not want:

- Leather seats: a pain to keep up, lexoil application plus when wearing shorts you stick to it.
- 19 inch wheels: harsher & noisier ride and tires are more expensive.
- Spoilers: in my previous car a 2004 Vette the front spoiler (although spring loaded) scraped on everything. So I had to slow down all the time to prevent serious damage.
- Navigation: Sorry but I am an old fart and prefer paper maps, plus my iPhone has a crude navigation feature.
- Electric seat: since they do not have a memory feature they are worthless to me.
- Homelink: In my condo we use key cards so it would have been of no use to me.

On the other hand would have liked the LSD, auto dimming rear view mirror, and the Bose system.

leepeen · 06-27-2009, 02:50 PM

What is LSD?
Is it a somekind of clutch for manual gear Z's?
sorry for noob question... :-P

370Z Purist · 06-27-2009, 02:50 PM

Limited slip differential.

tbonesteak · 06-27-2009, 03:10 PM

in a nutshell, it enables transfer of torque from one side to another for better power delivery to the wheels. that's just the concept. you might want to try howstuffworks.com, wikipedia, youtube, etc. there are tons of info out there.

370Z Purist · 06-27-2009, 03:25 PM

It's pretty complicated because there are open diffs, limited slip diffs, 1 way, 1.5 way, 2 way, clutch type, gear type, hypoid type, viscous...

eddieconfetti · 06-27-2009, 11:43 PM

well i got the sport package mainly because of brakes, rims, and syncro rev match. im not 100% sure and im not a professional track driver, but i heard the synchro rev match shaves off a second or two and isnt that a big difference on a track?

travisjb · 06-27-2009, 11:52 PM

srm won't shave off time for an experienced driver... benefits are big for more novice drivers and I'd believe saving a second or two there b/c it allows you to drop a gear in a turn and be ready to accelerate out of a turn as opposed to waiting/coasting... for experienced driver that can safely downshift in a turn using heel-toe to rev match, there is always the risk of fowling up a heel-toe, which could mean losing control of the car... srm eliminates that risk... all in all, srm is a nice option to have regardless of skill level

tvfreakazoid · 06-28-2009, 02:43 AM

You guys lost me at torsen.

06-26-2009, 06:12 PM	#20 (permalink)
travisjb A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: GSO Posts: 2,803 Drives: VIR Rep Power: 188	bingo! how often are they going to open your diff cover ! and if you know that's going to happen, swap back. __________________ 2009 370Z #104 For Sale

06-27-2009, 02:50 PM	#25 (permalink)
370Z Purist A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Zion, Illinois Posts: 1,873 Drives: '09 370Z-T BS M6 Rep Power: 19	Limited slip differential. __________________ -Phil "Since one of my brake light bulbs just went out, the forum told me that my piston rings are about to blow."

06-27-2009, 03:25 PM	#27 (permalink)
370Z Purist A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Zion, Illinois Posts: 1,873 Drives: '09 370Z-T BS M6 Rep Power: 19	It's pretty complicated because there are open diffs, limited slip diffs, 1 way, 1.5 way, 2 way, clutch type, gear type, hypoid type, viscous... __________________ -Phil "Since one of my brake light bulbs just went out, the forum told me that my piston rings are about to blow."

06-27-2009, 11:52 PM	#29 (permalink)
travisjb A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: GSO Posts: 2,803 Drives: VIR Rep Power: 188	srm won't shave off time for an experienced driver... benefits are big for more novice drivers and I'd believe saving a second or two there b/c it allows you to drop a gear in a turn and be ready to accelerate out of a turn as opposed to waiting/coasting... for experienced driver that can safely downshift in a turn using heel-toe to rev match, there is always the risk of fowling up a heel-toe, which could mean losing control of the car... srm eliminates that risk... all in all, srm is a nice option to have regardless of skill level __________________ 2009 370Z #104 For Sale

06-28-2009, 02:43 AM	#30 (permalink)
tvfreakazoid A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: kommie kali Posts: 1,238 Drives: 2015 Audi S5; 6spd. Rep Power: 10324	You guys lost me at torsen. __________________ Mudders milk

06-26-2009, 04:10 AM	#16 (permalink)
Sashimi Base Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Pleasanton, CA Posts: 120 Drives: Pearl White 370z Rep Power: 401	I got the Sport because of the LSD. I was thinking of swapping my own in, but I don't want to void the warranty, not yet anyways

06-26-2009, 08:48 AM	#17 (permalink)
Pharmacist A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 1,249 Drives: 09 370z Sport 6MT Rep Power: 18	I think the sport package is actually a very good deal. I agree it's a must for a sports car. You get big powerful brakes, lightweight large rims with sticky performance tires, front and rear spoilers (maybe aerodynamically useless, but hey they look good), and the synchrorev which reduces clutch wear and enables smooth downshifts. Heel and toe is good, but for average daily cruising in the streets can get exhausting and cumbersome. Re: warranty. You never know what Nissan may argue. They can argue that the upgraded LSD increased torque stress in the drivetrain, causing the driveshaft U joint to snap, or the transmission to grind a gear, or the crankshaft to throw a bearing, etc..... Don't you remember the whole GT-R fiasco?

06-26-2009, 02:14 PM	#18 (permalink)
Z-WHIZ Base Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Philly Posts: 115 Drives: 370 Base Rep Power: 16	Thanks for the responses so far guys. I wouldn't mind getting a torsen unit, but again, I'd be afraid that they would void my warranty.

06-26-2009, 08:23 PM	#21 (permalink)
TonyBPD Track Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: South Jersey Posts: 614 Drives: 2012 VW Golf R Rep Power: 17	I couldn't be happier with my base model. My wife is the primary driver and she DOES NOT need 19 inch wheels. Without a doubt the best sports car I have owned. She does not need big brakes either.

06-26-2009, 08:26 PM	#22 (permalink)
sensi09 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: so cal Posts: 449 Drives: _ Rep Power: 16	Warranty really shouldn't be an issue with a LSD. My main concern with a LSD, other than performance, is how it is in terms of noise and regular driving. For those characteristics, I'd look into a quaife, cusco or carbonetics LSD.

06-27-2009, 08:46 AM	#23 (permalink)
mrarroyo Base Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Heaven on Earth Posts: 211 Drives: 09 Nissan 370Z M6 Rep Power: 16	Love my base model, did not want: - Leather seats: a pain to keep up, lexoil application plus when wearing shorts you stick to it. - 19 inch wheels: harsher & noisier ride and tires are more expensive. - Spoilers: in my previous car a 2004 Vette the front spoiler (although spring loaded) scraped on everything. So I had to slow down all the time to prevent serious damage. - Navigation: Sorry but I am an old fart and prefer paper maps, plus my iPhone has a crude navigation feature. - Electric seat: since they do not have a memory feature they are worthless to me. - Homelink: In my condo we use key cards so it would have been of no use to me. On the other hand would have liked the LSD, auto dimming rear view mirror, and the Bose system.

06-27-2009, 02:50 PM	#24 (permalink)
leepeen Base Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Vancouver Posts: 110 Drives: PW 370z Touring A7 Rep Power: 16	What is LSD? Is it a somekind of clutch for manual gear Z's? sorry for noob question... :-P

06-27-2009, 03:10 PM	#26 (permalink)
tbonesteak Track Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Socal Posts: 914 Drives: MY09 MB 6MT Rep Power: 375	in a nutshell, it enables transfer of torque from one side to another for better power delivery to the wheels. that's just the concept. you might want to try howstuffworks.com, wikipedia, youtube, etc. there are tons of info out there.

06-27-2009, 11:43 PM	#28 (permalink)
eddieconfetti A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Duluth, GA Posts: 3,334 Drives: A Totaled PW Z Rep Power: 23	well i got the sport package mainly because of brakes, rims, and syncro rev match. im not 100% sure and im not a professional track driver, but i heard the synchro rev match shaves off a second or two and isnt that a big difference on a track?

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