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forza370z 08-23-2012 02:13 AM

Hard launch
 
Bear with me since I am new to the manual transmission... I am just curious how to hard launch this car. I know too much wheel spin is no good while no wheel spin will be slow too. Keep the slip ratio between 10-15% will get the max grip. Depends on the tire condition, I usually rev my Z to 3k rpm and dump the clutch. How people usually do at the dragstrip? Also, is dumping the clutch a proper way to hard launch a car? Will it damage the clutch and/or transmission?

red6spd 08-23-2012 02:32 AM

Probably not a good idea to just dump it. Try letting the clutch out just until its about to grab then come off quickly while laying into the gas. Also if I launch on the street at 3k I will spin like crazy. 2-2500 seems to be okay but I also have Pilot Super Sports tires. These cars are very tricky to launch just keep practicing.

dastaco 08-23-2012 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by red6spd (Post 1882237)
Probably not a good idea to just dump it. Try letting the clutch out just until its about to grab then come off quickly while laying into the gas. Also if I launch on the street at 3k I will spin like crazy. 2-2500 seems to be okay but I also have Pilot Super Sports tires. These cars are very tricky to launch just keep practicing.

Doing a 3k dump isn't really bad for the clutch, its actually much worse to try and feather it while keeping the revs up.

robones 08-23-2012 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by dastaco (Post 1882269)
Doing a 3k dump isn't really bad for the clutch, its actually much worse to try and feather it while keeping the revs up.

This is correct. The worst thing you can do to your clutch is to feather it. Dump it to prevent additional wear.

3k seems to be the best launch RPM speed (for me) to avoid too much wheel spin.

TypeOne 08-23-2012 08:59 AM

I dump from about 3k and get nothing but spin and hopppppppp.

I find it better to rev up slightly(1500-2000rpm), and let out slower on the clutch then full throttle right after it hooks. You won't get the best 60ft times that way but it will help from burning your tires through the gears. This is with stock RE050As of course... I'm sure you could change the compound and raise the rpm up.

robones 08-23-2012 09:15 AM

True!! ultimately it depends on the tires and width of your tires. I am running 285s Hankook v 12 summer tires on the rears which are sticky. I dont spin the wheels at 3k :happydance:

TypeOne 08-23-2012 09:50 AM

My stock 19s would blow them down... especially after my intake/exhaust... I had a set of Pirelli Pzero and would spin them out in 3rd.

onzedge 08-23-2012 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by red6spd (Post 1882237)
Probably not a good idea to just dump it. Try letting the clutch out just until its about to grab then come off quickly while laying into the gas. Also if I launch on the street at 3k I will spin like crazy. 2-2500 seems to be okay but I also have Pilot Super Sports tires. These cars are very tricky to launch just keep practicing.

Grippy buggers, aren't they? :tup:

blackcherry20 08-23-2012 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 1882760)
Grippy buggers, aren't they? :tup:

:iagree: :shakes head:I have yet to master this "art" I did get the butt to swing out a bit last week, 90 degree turn to the right and kicked it a bit in second-woops- there it went! woot! fun!

forza370z 08-23-2012 03:07 PM

Ok, I sorta get mixed opions here. As for my car, I feel dump the clutch gives me the quickest launch. I tried other ways rather than dump the clutch, but I don't get as much kick and enough wheel spin. Maybe I should try more? But for me after I dump the clutch, I didn't feel anything bad on my car. So I wonder maybe it's a proper way to do a hard/quick launch?

dastaco 08-23-2012 03:35 PM

Do not try the other method of feathering the clutch, its incredibly bad for your car.

AlanManouk 08-23-2012 04:20 PM

put it in first, traction off, clutch in, rev to 7.5k, dump

TypeOne 08-23-2012 04:22 PM

^^

Sounds legit.

370Z Purist 08-23-2012 04:26 PM

A dump is the best way. Without good tires, you'll spin them all the time. I have bald tires and slip all the time. I've not gone to a drag strip but I just get into first at 1K and then dump and floor it, whenever I'm feeling obnoxious.

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forza370z 08-23-2012 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Vaughanabe13 (Post 1883791)

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forza370z 08-23-2012 08:00 PM

Thanks for everybody's input! So seems like I wasn't doing something terribly wrong.:icon17:

ShinyBlueZ 08-23-2012 08:15 PM

who doesn't love a good dump?

4.5 second 0-60 baby!

feels more like 3.6 seconds when I launch.. that's all I'm sayin.

370zbb 08-24-2012 08:15 AM

1. Engage 1st Gear
2. Rev to 7000RPM
3. Foot off clutch
4. ???

dastaco 08-24-2012 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by 370zbb (Post 1884539)
1. Engage 1st Gear
2. Rev to 7000RPM
3. Foot off clutch
4. ???

4. Hit Wall

Spikuh 08-24-2012 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dastaco (Post 1884573)
4. Hit Wall

5. Come to forum, admit VDC was off.

dastaco 08-24-2012 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spikuh (Post 1884635)
5. Come to forum, admit VDC was off.

Everyone seems so skiddish about turning VDC off.. I never drive my car with it on. Is it really an issue for others?

Spikuh 08-24-2012 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by dastaco (Post 1884641)
Everyone seems so skiddish about turning VDC off.. I never drive my car with it on. Is it really an issue for others?

If you don't know how to handle the power then it is an issue. If you do, then it is not an issue. Simple as that.

dastaco 08-24-2012 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Spikuh (Post 1884658)
If you don't know how to handle the power then it is an issue. If you do, then it is not an issue. Simple as that.

That scares me and makes me a bit sad.

2011 Nismo#91 08-24-2012 09:57 AM

We need one of the V-Tec kicked in pics.

forza370z 08-24-2012 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370zbb (Post 1884539)
1. Engage 1st Gear
2. Rev to 7000RPM
3. Foot off clutch
4. ???

4. Landed to Mars when I opened my eyes...

DJ-of-E 08-24-2012 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by forza370z (Post 1885087)
4. Landed to Mars when I opened my eyes...

Is that you, John Conner?

forza370z 08-24-2012 09:59 PM

^^ Yes, but don't tell anybody. Otherwise they will send another bad robot to me and I haven't managed hard launch yet...


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