A letter I wrote to Nissan north america (with reply)

b1adesofcha0s · 08-28-2012, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Redglare

Also another article on the general discussion page saying a 15% power bump incoming to all nismo models?
Could we see a Z with 380-400hp by 2014?

Incoming Changes for 370, Nismo, RS platform

I think that's supposed to be a 15% power bump for the Nismo RS model over the normal 2014 Z. Depending on what Nissan does power wise with the next gen Z, we could very well see a 400 HP Nismo.

LakeShow · 08-29-2012, 01:22 AM

^^You trade in the Z for the Lambo?

ImportConvert · 08-28-2012, 10:35 PM

Historically, Nissan came out with the 350Z before Ford came out with the S197. Nissan then came out with the 370Z right before Ford changed things up for 2010. Ford is doing something in 2014/2015. Who knows if Nissan will just do a change-up, or if they will come out with something new. We will wait and see. If it's just 20bhp, though, it won't do much for my interest. I already have that with just a crappy Berk CBE.

Cmike2780 · 08-29-2012, 08:25 AM

5 years is too soon for a totally new next gen Z. They can't really justify a new powertrain just yet, so Direct Injection is definitely the only feasable route for Nissan. It makes sense if they just want to hit the 400hp mark for the Nismo. It would be awesome just for "bragging" rights, but I'll probably wait for the completely redesigned model if/when I decide to get a new one. This thread, like so many others is pure fantasy and wishfull thinking...

b1adesofcha0s · 08-29-2012, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by LakeShow

^^You trade in the Z for the Lambo?

Yeah....I wish. No, I just got to drive the Lambo for a couple laps around a short track.

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780

5 years is too soon for a totally new next gen Z. They can't really justify a new powertrain just yet, so Direct Injection is definitely the only feasable route for Nissan. It makes sense if they just want to hit the 400hp mark for the Nismo. It would be awesome just for "bragging" rights, but I'll probably wait for the completely redesigned model if/when I decide to get a new one. This thread, like so many others is pure fantasy and wishfull thinking...

Everything that I've seen tells me that the 2015 model year Z (which will go on sale in 2014) IS the completely redesigned one. Seems like they really want to make the Z lighter and leaner with this redesign and hopefully that will come with a power bump too.

jm1fd · 09-01-2012, 04:44 PM

It wouldn't surprise me a bit if there were some powertrain improvements for the 2014. Here's why:

The 370's platform mate the Infiniti G is going to be all new for 2014.
It has been said elsewhere that new engines are being introduced for the 2014 G.
Nissan likely needs/wants a bit more engine manufacturing economy of scale for these new engines than the G alone can provide.

Solution? New or revised engine for the 370. Let's just hope the new engine isn't a result of Nissan/Renault's recent alliance with Daimler.

UNKNOWN_370 · 09-02-2012, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780

5 years is too soon for a totally new next gen Z. They can't really justify a new powertrain just yet, so Direct Injection is definitely the only feasable route for Nissan. It makes sense if they just want to hit the 400hp mark for the Nismo. It would be awesome just for "bragging" rights, but I'll probably wait for the completely redesigned model if/when I decide to get a new one. This thread, like so many others is pure fantasy and wishfull thinking...

Historically, a Z generation is 6 years... But why cant we have a totally new engine for the next generation? The VQ is in business in the infiniti lineup and not going anywhere... There's plenty of vehicles in VQ35's as of right now that can use the VQ37 bump. The M-hybrid, EX, FX, I wouldn't be surprised if the next gen Murano & Maxima sees the VQ37 as well. I can agree that the VQ may see more efficient transmissions and possibly DI technology in the future. But it doesn't have to be in the Z. An exclusive powerplant will give the Z... well true exclusivity. Also analyze this fact...
If Nissan goes with the turbo 4. They will AGAIN be competing with the Porsche Cayman. Dig into the archives and see how important it has historically been for nissan to rival porsche performance since the Z32. It's what makes the most sense...

jm1fd · 09-02-2012, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

An exclusive powerplant will give the Z... well true exclusivity.

The problem is cost. Name one low volume Nissan product besides the GT-R that has a unique engine. The days of every model getting its own engine is over.

Z_ealot · 09-02-2012, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jm1fd

The problem is cost. Name one low volume Nissan product besides the GT-R that has a unique engine. The days of every model getting its own engine is over.

leaf lol

jm1fd · 09-02-2012, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Z_ealot

leaf lol

LOL Electric motors don't count. Besides, it is a loss leader special.

UNKNOWN_370 · 09-02-2012, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jm1fd

The problem is cost. Name one low volume Nissan product besides the GT-R that has a unique engine. The days of every model getting its own engine is over.

Yeah but who is to say that engine won't be used later on in other models? Also, The Z is looking for a series of gimmicks to push this car cuz americans like gimmicks. The G25 isn't the most desireable option for a G yet it is excluively fitted as a base G motor. Sometimes companies need to take risks.

Nissan can fiddle with cash even with a low selling car like the Z because of cars like the altima, g,sentra, versa and small crossover style vehicles like the exterra , rogue and murano. They are the bread and butter and always recieve trickle down technology.

Redglare · 09-02-2012, 09:31 PM

I still think that the next Z will at least share the engine with the next G coupe/ sedna, and the next coupe is around the corner for a full redesign so that should give us a good glimpse of what's to come.

Honestly I am excited to see what the next wave of redesigns will bring, we have the Z, G coming in shortly and all the competition is getting redesigns.

08-29-2012, 01:22 AM	#2 (permalink)
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08-29-2012, 08:25 AM	#4 (permalink)
Cmike2780 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 5,059 Drives: slowwww Rep Power: 29	5 years is too soon for a totally new next gen Z. They can't really justify a new powertrain just yet, so Direct Injection is definitely the only feasable route for Nissan. It makes sense if they just want to hit the 400hp mark for the Nismo. It would be awesome just for "bragging" rights, but I'll probably wait for the completely redesigned model if/when I decide to get a new one. This thread, like so many others is pure fantasy and wishfull thinking... __________________ [09][MB][6-Spd MT][Touring][Stillen Gen III][K&N][Borla CBE][Evo-R] [ArchitTEK Photography]

09-01-2012, 04:44 PM	#6 (permalink)
jm1fd Base Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 23 Drives: 1977 REPU White M5 Rep Power: 14	It wouldn't surprise me a bit if there were some powertrain improvements for the 2014. Here's why: The 370's platform mate the Infiniti G is going to be all new for 2014. It has been said elsewhere that new engines are being introduced for the 2014 G. Nissan likely needs/wants a bit more engine manufacturing economy of scale for these new engines than the G alone can provide. Solution? New or revised engine for the 370. Let's just hope the new engine isn't a result of Nissan/Renault's recent alliance with Daimler.

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08-28-2012, 10:35 PM	#3 (permalink)
ImportConvert A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: SWMO Posts: 4,454 Drives: 2019 CX5 GT Reserve Rep Power: 7627	Historically, Nissan came out with the 350Z before Ford came out with the S197. Nissan then came out with the 370Z right before Ford changed things up for 2010. Ford is doing something in 2014/2015. Who knows if Nissan will just do a change-up, or if they will come out with something new. We will wait and see. If it's just 20bhp, though, it won't do much for my interest. I already have that with just a crappy Berk CBE.

09-02-2012, 09:31 PM	#12 (permalink)
Redglare Enthusiast Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: FL Posts: 387 Drives: C172 Skyhawk GIII Rep Power: 176	I still think that the next Z will at least share the engine with the next G coupe/ sedna, and the next coupe is around the corner for a full redesign so that should give us a good glimpse of what's to come. Honestly I am excited to see what the next wave of redesigns will bring, we have the Z, G coming in shortly and all the competition is getting redesigns.