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brucelidat 08-25-2012 06:49 PM

then I rescind my comment about it being the worst thing I have ever read English-wise.

Redglare 08-25-2012 07:31 PM

^ haha, it's still pretty bad even for a google translation.

b1adesofcha0s 08-28-2012 02:18 PM

Looks like the focus on the next Z will be to slim it down. I don't think we'll see them drop the performance to compete with the FT86. Rather, according to this article, Nissan may be developing a new mini Z as a separate model to fulfill that role.

http://wot.motortrend.com/slimming-d...ns-253387.html

Redglare 08-28-2012 09:20 PM

Also another article on the general discussion page saying a 15% power bump incoming to all nismo models?
Could we see a Z with 380-400hp by 2014?

http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...-platform.html

ImportConvert 08-28-2012 10:35 PM

Historically, Nissan came out with the 350Z before Ford came out with the S197. Nissan then came out with the 370Z right before Ford changed things up for 2010. Ford is doing something in 2014/2015. Who knows if Nissan will just do a change-up, or if they will come out with something new. We will wait and see. If it's just 20bhp, though, it won't do much for my interest. I already have that with just a crappy Berk CBE.

b1adesofcha0s 08-28-2012 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Redglare (Post 1891381)
Also another article on the general discussion page saying a 15% power bump incoming to all nismo models?
Could we see a Z with 380-400hp by 2014?

http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...-platform.html

I think that's supposed to be a 15% power bump for the Nismo RS model over the normal 2014 Z. Depending on what Nissan does power wise with the next gen Z, we could very well see a 400 HP Nismo.

LakeShow 08-29-2012 01:22 AM

^^You trade in the Z for the Lambo?

Cmike2780 08-29-2012 08:25 AM

5 years is too soon for a totally new next gen Z. They can't really justify a new powertrain just yet, so Direct Injection is definitely the only feasable route for Nissan. It makes sense if they just want to hit the 400hp mark for the Nismo. It would be awesome just for "bragging" rights, but I'll probably wait for the completely redesigned model if/when I decide to get a new one. This thread, like so many others is pure fantasy and wishfull thinking...:)

Cmike2780 08-29-2012 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by NYBladeZ (Post 1885446)
I doubt changes to the new Z will effect the Z's value in any way other than negatively. The question is will Nissan target BR-Z buyers or as they do with the GT-R buyers who want superior performance for a lot less money.

I'm leaning toward the first which may not be a bad idea. A well engineering turbo'd 4cyl will put out more than the vq37 especially when factors such as direct injection are taken into account. Making the Z even lighter (sub 3000) pounds and keeping it at 300+ hp will give us a car that is lighter, faster and has more potential than the 370z.

Sell now guys, if you aren't going TT or S/C sell now.

That's true for all cars. For the most part, 1st year cars hold their value longer than the last model year of the same car.

They're not going to target BR-Z buyers any more than they target Porche/Mustang/Camaro/Audi TT/BMW buyers. That's kind of why a mini-Z was brought into discussions. Nissan is def going for the "performance" aspect in it's advertising.

A turbo 4 has a lot of potential, but a 6-cyl has a lot more. Your max power ceiling for a 4-cyl is lower than a 6-cyl. Assuming the VQ37 remains as is, a well engineered 4-cyl could match it, but it can't match a well engineered VQ37 with the same attention to engineering. Having a 3,000lbs/300hp Z will have roughly the same power to weight ratio as the current 370 and I doubt it will be faster. Raising the power and lowering the weight is a what you want.

Most people, like myself, obviously want more power, but I've never felt it lacking in the Z either. There's always another faster car just around the corner. Not a good reason to sell your Z.

b1adesofcha0s 08-29-2012 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LakeShow (Post 1891749)
^^You trade in the Z for the Lambo?

Yeah....I wish. No, I just got to drive the Lambo for a couple laps around a short track.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cmike2780 (Post 1891879)
5 years is too soon for a totally new next gen Z. They can't really justify a new powertrain just yet, so Direct Injection is definitely the only feasable route for Nissan. It makes sense if they just want to hit the 400hp mark for the Nismo. It would be awesome just for "bragging" rights, but I'll probably wait for the completely redesigned model if/when I decide to get a new one. This thread, like so many others is pure fantasy and wishfull thinking...:)

Everything that I've seen tells me that the 2015 model year Z (which will go on sale in 2014) IS the completely redesigned one. Seems like they really want to make the Z lighter and leaner with this redesign and hopefully that will come with a power bump too.

jm1fd 09-01-2012 04:44 PM

It wouldn't surprise me a bit if there were some powertrain improvements for the 2014. Here's why:
  1. The 370's platform mate the Infiniti G is going to be all new for 2014.
  2. It has been said elsewhere that new engines are being introduced for the 2014 G.
  3. Nissan likely needs/wants a bit more engine manufacturing economy of scale for these new engines than the G alone can provide.

Solution? New or revised engine for the 370. Let's just hope the new engine isn't a result of Nissan/Renault's recent alliance with Daimler.

UNKNOWN_370 09-02-2012 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cmike2780 (Post 1891879)
5 years is too soon for a totally new next gen Z. They can't really justify a new powertrain just yet, so Direct Injection is definitely the only feasable route for Nissan. It makes sense if they just want to hit the 400hp mark for the Nismo. It would be awesome just for "bragging" rights, but I'll probably wait for the completely redesigned model if/when I decide to get a new one. This thread, like so many others is pure fantasy and wishfull thinking...:)

Historically, a Z generation is 6 years... But why cant we have a totally new engine for the next generation? The VQ is in business in the infiniti lineup and not going anywhere... There's plenty of vehicles in VQ35's as of right now that can use the VQ37 bump. The M-hybrid, EX, FX, I wouldn't be surprised if the next gen Murano & Maxima sees the VQ37 as well. I can agree that the VQ may see more efficient transmissions and possibly DI technology in the future. But it doesn't have to be in the Z. An exclusive powerplant will give the Z... well true exclusivity. Also analyze this fact...
If Nissan goes with the turbo 4. They will AGAIN be competing with the Porsche Cayman. Dig into the archives and see how important it has historically been for nissan to rival porsche performance since the Z32. It's what makes the most sense...

jm1fd 09-02-2012 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 1899010)
An exclusive powerplant will give the Z... well true exclusivity.

The problem is cost. Name one low volume Nissan product besides the GT-R that has a unique engine. The days of every model getting its own engine is over.

Z_ealot 09-02-2012 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jm1fd (Post 1899023)
The problem is cost. Name one low volume Nissan product besides the GT-R that has a unique engine. The days of every model getting its own engine is over.

leaf lol

jm1fd 09-02-2012 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z_ealot (Post 1899028)
leaf lol

LOL Electric motors don't count. Besides, it is a loss leader special.


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