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cdawg410 06-23-2009 08:56 PM

Now hear this
 
According to my dealer, if there is no bracket/holes for the front license plate on your vehicle when you purchase it you are not required to install it. (I don't know if this is VA law or a national policy). At any rate, before putting holes in your shiny new vehicle I suggest doing research on that topic and asking your dealer (they do kinda have the burden of knowing these things after all). Of course I have not confirmed this information with local laws but I figure that if I do get pulled over for not having the front plate on I can claim ignorance and being given misinformation. By the by, what cop pulls a U-ey to give a ticket to a car he's passed without a front plate? It would seem to me that he is paying attention to the wrong **** if he notices it's not there on one of the thousands of cars he passes each day. That is just my 1/5 of a nickel.

dad 06-23-2009 08:58 PM

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fly yellow 06-23-2009 09:01 PM

I think your dealer is wrong. All cars sold in this country have to have the ability to mount a front plate for states that require it. The Z comes with a bracket for this purpose. Corvette guys are notorious for trying to skirt the front plate law because mounting their plate requires you to remove the Corvette insert in the front bumper.

drdre8424 06-23-2009 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by fly yellow (Post 98130)
I think your dealer is wrong. All cars sold in this country have to have the ability to mount a front plate for states that require it. The Z comes with a bracket for this purpose. Corvette guys are notorious for trying to skirt the front plate law because mounting their plate requires you to remove the Corvette insert in the front bumper.

yea im pretty sure i found a front licesce plate holder thing in my trunk...i left it there, along with my 2nd California plate.

Roo 06-23-2009 09:06 PM

Wrong, if your in CA and tell that to the cop he'll laugh.

drdre8424 06-23-2009 09:10 PM

Well, sadly im not in Cali anymore:(

2theextreme 06-23-2009 09:31 PM

I posted this earlier today in another thread:

Good ol' Virginia law:

§ 46.2-715. Display of license plates.

License plates assigned to a motor vehicle, other than a motorcycle, tractor truck, trailer, or semitrailer, or to persons licensed as motor vehicle dealers or transporters of unladen vehicles, shall be attached to the front and the rear of the vehicle. The license plate assigned to a motorcycle, trailer, or semitrailer shall be attached to the rear of the vehicle. The license plate assigned to a tractor truck shall be attached to the front of the vehicle. The license plates issued to licensed motor vehicle dealers and to persons licensed as transporters of unladen vehicles shall consist of one plate for each set issued and shall be attached to the rear of the vehicle to which it is assigned.

Cjanik 06-23-2009 10:14 PM

yeah in VA you need it, in some states you dont, such as here in NV, the law states that you must have a rear plate and you must apply a front plate if there is front plate bracket.

so yay for me :)

Namir 06-23-2009 10:49 PM

:inoutroflpuke:Bahahahahah. The bullsh!t stealers will spew now days.
Someone should make this into a game show. They walk into dealerships with hidden cameras and then play stupid and ask questions so we can all laugh at the ridiculous things salesman say.

dszombiex 06-24-2009 12:08 AM

Incidentally, does the front mounting bracket come with the car? Like for free? Cuz the dealer didn't give me mine. And as I understand California vehicle code, it is illegal to deliver a car to a purchaser without it installed unless the purchaser signed a waiver that they refused installation of the front bracket...

initialgemini 06-24-2009 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by dszombiex (Post 98250)
Incidentally, does the front mounting bracket come with the car? Like for free? Cuz the dealer didn't give me mine. And as I understand California vehicle code, it is illegal to deliver a car to a purchaser without it installed unless the purchaser signed a waiver that they refused installation of the front bracket...

Yah just go back. They should give you one for free and probably will even offer to install it for you.

Forrest 06-24-2009 03:54 AM

Im driving aroudn with out a front plate, i dont drive around a lot. I also drive slow. I suspect these factors will actualy let me go along time before i have to put on a plate.

dawankler 06-24-2009 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by dszombiex (Post 98250)
Incidentally, does the front mounting bracket come with the car? Like for free? Cuz the dealer didn't give me mine. And as I understand California vehicle code, it is illegal to deliver a car to a purchaser without it installed unless the purchaser signed a waiver that they refused installation of the front bracket...

That's the way it is in VA too. I had to sign a little paper when I told the guy not to install the front bracket yet.

Modshack 06-24-2009 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by 2theextreme (Post 98158)
I posted this earlier today in another thread:

Good ol' Virginia law:

§ 46.2-715. Display of license plates.

License plates assigned to a motor vehicle, other than a motorcycle, tractor truck, trailer, or semitrailer, or to persons licensed as motor vehicle dealers or transporters of unladen vehicles, shall be attached to the front and the rear of the vehicle. The license plate assigned to a motorcycle, trailer, or semitrailer shall be attached to the rear of the vehicle. The license plate assigned to a tractor truck shall be attached to the front of the vehicle. The license plates issued to licensed motor vehicle dealers and to persons licensed as transporters of unladen vehicles shall consist of one plate for each set issued and shall be attached to the rear of the vehicle to which it is assigned.

Hey...That just says it needs to be attached, Not that it has to be visible! Mount it horizontally inside the nose or on the lower cover...;)

chrisw169 06-24-2009 11:07 AM

They are required to have front plates as well in Texas. My buddy was driving his evo x the other day and got pulled over by a state trooper and was given a written warning for not having a front plate...

Educ8r 06-24-2009 01:38 PM

Also if there is no speed limit posted, you can make your own! :rolleyes:

FricFrac 06-24-2009 02:02 PM

Just mount your front plate with a servo so when you hit a switch it folds up out of sight then flip the switch the other way and its visible to the cops. Or just do like James Bond and have the rotating licence plate system ;P

370Z Purist 06-24-2009 07:01 PM

I wonder if there's anything like the Z bracket; I'm adverse to mounting a front license plate on my car (although I'm just being whiny). I'm all for the "clean" look, and that means no license plates = good.

Mergnthwirker 06-24-2009 07:54 PM

Somebody, maybe Stillen? has a front plate mount that screws onto a bolt that plugs in where the tow hook goes. Means no cutting/drilling holes into your bumper. I'd like to see one in the flesh, however before I commit. Are there locking nuts to keep the plate from rotating on the stud?

Yeah, here's the link http://www.stillen.com/product.asp?i...SAN&model=370Z

370Z Purist 06-24-2009 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Mergnthwirker (Post 98759)
Somebody, maybe Stillen? has a front plate mount that screws onto a bolt that plugs in where the tow hook goes. Means no cutting/drilling holes into your bumper. I'd like to see one in the flesh, however before I commit. Are there locking nuts to keep the plate from rotating on the stud?

Yeah, here's the link STILLEN : STILLEN Front License Plate Bracket


Looks nice, and I've never seen it before, must be somewhat new.

And yeah, I'd want some proof too.

Mike 06-24-2009 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by dszombiex (Post 98250)
Incidentally, does the front mounting bracket come with the car? Like for free? Cuz the dealer didn't give me mine. And as I understand California vehicle code, it is illegal to deliver a car to a purchaser without it installed unless the purchaser signed a waiver that they refused installation of the front bracket...

what is your address, I will send you mine if you need it, I've got a whole box full of front plate mounts from previous cars.

dszombiex 06-24-2009 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike (Post 98761)
what is your address, I will send you mine if you need it, I've got a whole box full of front plate mounts from previous cars.

0_o. Thats exceedingly kind of you. Lemme try an get it from the dealer first so that you don't have to bother.

Robert_Nash 06-24-2009 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by cdawg410 (Post 98124)
According to my dealer, if there is no bracket/holes for the front license plate on your vehicle when you purchase it you are not required to install it...

Perhaps you can subpoena the car salesman into court to help fight the ticket? :bowrofl:

EVO_Killer 06-25-2009 10:26 AM

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Here is a pic of the Stillen front bracket

KidD 06-25-2009 10:41 AM

There is also the option that I see done to a lot of cars around Fort Hood. Four suction cups in the lower corner of the windshield! No cutting, no drilling, and no messing up the clean line of your front bumper. :happydance:

370Z Purist 06-25-2009 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by KidD (Post 99099)
There is also the option that I see done to a lot of cars around Fort Hood. Four suction cups in the lower corner of the windshield! No cutting, no drilling, and no messing up the clean line of your front bumper. :happydance:

In the US, the front of the car is considered the grille area. People don't get stopped for displaying it in the windshield but I do hear that if they speed and get ticketed for speeding, they add on another ticket saying the front license plate is not attached... what a bunch of crap... I hate IL. They have the most paranoid driving rules (well, Wisconsin is a hell of a lot more strict, but still).

cdawg410 06-25-2009 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert_Nash (Post 98892)
Perhaps you can subpoena the car salesman into court to help fight the ticket? :bowrofl:

I'm just parroting what I was told when I bought the car. I asked the question and he said if there aren't already holes than it's not required. Being that I'll only put about 5k on the car annually, I guess that makes for less opportunity to get pulled over. Browns Nissan in Fairfax will certainly be getting a call from my lawyer if I do get a ticket.

Pharmacist 06-25-2009 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by cdawg410 (Post 98124)
According to my dealer, if there is no bracket/holes for the front license plate on your vehicle when you purchase it you are not required to install it.

According to my dealer, if there is no electronic speed limiter on the car, you are not required to adhere to the posted speed limit :bowrofl: :roflpuke2: :rofl2:

Pharmacist 06-25-2009 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by FricFrac (Post 98538)
Or just do like James Bond and have the rotating licence plate system ;P

Brilliant idea! Thought about it myself! That would be very helpful in trying to evade cops chasing me to give me a speeding ticket :happydance:

cdawg410 06-25-2009 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Pharmacist (Post 99573)
According to my dealer, if there is no electronic speed limiter on the car, you are not required to adhere to the posted speed limit :bowrofl: :roflpuke2: :rofl2:

You can make fun all you like. I got my loan homey! I drive my 370 whenever I get the feeling. You can take your piddly exchange rate and universal health car(e) and shove it up your non-qualifying bunghole homeboy. I'm not the one to get nasty wit Doncha know, eh.

Pharmacist 06-26-2009 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by cdawg410 (Post 99579)
You can make fun all you like. I got my loan homey! I drive my 370 whenever I get the feeling. You can take your piddly exchange rate and universal health car(e) and shove it up your non-qualifying bunghole homeboy. I'm not the one to get nasty wit Doncha know, eh.

:rofl2:

wow, someone here really doesn't know how to take a joke :icon18:

It's called sense of humour. You should try it sometime.

Yeah, exchange rate is crap, but so what? The USD is almost worthless nowadays anyway. It will get even more worthless as american power declines. The Euro is likely to be the dominant currency of the future.

And universal healthcare is good. Unlike your country, we don't have people dying of very treatable diseases just cuz they don't have a lot of $$$ or an expensive health insurance plan. Don't diss it cuz you never know when you may need it.

gpa7pk 06-26-2009 07:38 AM

Okay kids, time to make up or go to your rooms.

cdawg410 06-26-2009 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Pharmacist (Post 99785)
:rofl2:

wow, someone here really doesn't know how to take a joke :icon18:

It's called sense of humour. You should try it sometime.

Yeah, exchange rate is crap, but so what? The USD is almost worthless nowadays anyway. It will get even more worthless as american power declines. The Euro is likely to be the dominant currency of the future.

And universal healthcare is good. Unlike your country, we don't have people dying of very treatable diseases just cuz they don't have a lot of $$$ or an expensive health insurance plan. Don't diss it cuz you never know when you may need it.

Look who's talking about taking a joke, what'd you do some research on wikipedia? In America, you smash, you get smashed on. Did you feel like you had to step in for your fellow countryman? If I really wanted to dog out Canada I would've gone alot harder than universal healthcare there bubba. Cool your jets, GSP is the a champion and suddenly everyone in Canada thinks they can fight. Chillax.

Pharmacist 06-26-2009 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by cdawg410 (Post 99804)
Look who's talking about taking a joke, what'd you do some research on wikipedia? In America, you smash, you get smashed on. Did you feel like you had to step in for your fellow countryman? If I really wanted to dog out Canada I would've gone alot harder than universal healthcare there bubba. Cool your jets, GSP is the a champion and suddenly everyone in Canada thinks they can fight. Chillax.

I didn't "smash" anyone. I just cracked a joke. thought it would make you laugh, but apparently not. No intention to offend or anything. Come on, you gotta admit it, it is a bit funny to say a car earns exemption from a legal requirement because the manufacturer made it this way. Don't you think so? And GSP kicks ***!

cdawg410 06-26-2009 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Pharmacist (Post 99823)
I didn't "smash" anyone. I just cracked a joke. thought it would make you laugh, but apparently not. No intention to offend or anything. Come on, you gotta admit it, it is a bit funny to say a car earns exemption from a legal requirement because the manufacturer made it this way. Don't you think so? And GSP kicks ***!

"Smash" is a colloquialism, I only meant that it was a dig or joke. I laughed, cause it was funny, whether or not you meant it as a dig. All in good fun, I guess we're a little dry with our humor here in DC, I didn't mean to come off like I was offended. I've definitely been witness to more asinine "exemptions", like I said, I'm from DC (taxation without representation much)..... and GSP is a cheater ;)

OMGWTFBBQ 06-26-2009 10:24 AM

Uh... back on topic?

I never knew that Stillen made a license plate bracket like that. I might have to stop by and check it out in person.

cdawg410 06-26-2009 10:30 AM

http://pictures.dealer.com//brownsfa...7915228589.jpg

THAT IS THE MAN.... HE TOLD ME OFFICER!!

Just practicing.

dszombiex 06-26-2009 10:41 AM

I think you two should exchange contact info and duel with rapiers...

370Z Purist 06-26-2009 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by dszombiex (Post 99894)
I think you two should exchange contact info and duel with rapiers...

Be sure to record it for our viewing pleasure.

FricFrac 06-26-2009 04:49 PM

Its gonna have to be Nerf Bats - rapiers are registered weapons here in Canada ;P


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