Toyota GT86 / Scion FR-S v Nissan 370Z v Used Porsche Cayman S

cossie1600

nope britain uses miles

shadoquad

Most reviewers are unfriendly to the Z. I'm just used to it by now. When it first came out, they were all saying how great it is and fawning all over SRM. Then there was the C&D brake incident, and ever since then reviewers have ignored or bashed the Z, even though it's a fantastic performance car. I just don't let them bother me anymore.

bigdog1250

Chris Harris is arguably the best automotive journalist out there right now. Yes the FR-S has a better driving position than the Z, if you doubt that go sit in one. The wheel is better placed and their seats hug MUCH tighter than ours.

While the overall review seemed harsh on the Z, the points he made were totally valid and have been made over and over across all the auto media companies, such as the course engine note/feeling above 5k rpms. But again, a lot of his gripes can be easily fixed with simple mods... as an all around car the Z is a much better value. Check out my threads reviewing the FR-S vs. the Z.

He's really not bias at all. If actually listen to what he has to say it's good content.

And to those of you who say he doesn't know how to push our car... you are foolish. Check out his other videos. He drifts $100k+ cars on tiny back roads all day. He can push our car no problem, it just does get a little squirmy around the limit (in stock form) and loses some composure, thus the 8/10ths.

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Streetlife

I think a lot of reviewers of vehicles judge them without knowing the bloodline or history of all sports cars they review. The 370Z is the most refined Z car ever made, and the engine becoming course after 5K RPM is just apart of the Z bloodline, a personality trait for driver integration, i love it, but i also know the full history of the Z. Chris Harris is cool with me, just think he needs to do more research on the history of Japanese sports cars, just as much as he does for German sports cars and Italian super cars. Also, he should have had a 370z at least with a sport package, to make it more fair, and one with Z1 Motorsports MAF tubes, and a Tanabe exhaust ( I am biased like Chris when it comes to CBE's and my other mods).

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FairladyZ

I think some of you are taking these reviews a little too serious.

Just be happy with your **** lol....

Think about this, we will never all agree on something. If we did the world would be boring.

The Z probably doesn't have that gocart feel but it has a better interior, more power, and is just as good around the track.

For sub 30's though there isnt a better car than the BRZ period. Just be happy we have options.

I am starting to see FRS/BRZ's everywhere in Los angeles, I however hardly ever see 370Z's, not that it matters.

Streetlife

. To be honest, I never get caught up in reviews on sports cars, it's about the feel they give you. Everyone has their own opinions and favorites. I am completely happy with my choice!

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bigdog1250

While I see what you're saying, no engineer ever wants their engine to be course or rough, that's just not a good trait; it has nothing to do with heritage (it has to do with them trying to squeeze out as much power from the block as they can while remaining NA). Lots of reviewers were turned off by this. Personally I don't think it's terrible, but in no way is it on par with a Porsche. Smooth is better in that department.

In regards to knowing history, I'm sure he knows more than you think but Z's but he's only human and can't be an expert on ALL cars from every car marque. So you can't rip him for that.

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shadoquad

I could definitely argue with this point. I think the BRZ and FRS are great cars, but I don't think I'd hand them the crown for under 30. Hell, the BRZ has its mate on the dealer lots to contend with, the WRX. And there's also the best selling sports car since the 90's, the Miata.

cossie1600

Think of it this way, the 3.7L VQ makes more power at 5500RPM than the BRZ. If you shift at 5500RPM, no oil temp issues, no overheated brakes, no coarse engine, you will still be faster

Mt Tam I am

Apparently I do not savor the drift enough. My Z corrects with counter steering too quickly. Did I hear this right?

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shadoquad

I'm not a huge drifter, either. While I like it when occasionally I have to correct a skid from the back tires coming out, it's not a way of life for me. I prefer mountains of grip and expedient corner ingress/egress

Mt Tam I am

You and me both.

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UNKNOWN_370

I'd give anything to put any of these negative Z reviewers in my passenger seat.

If i could have whipped a muscle car as hard as a Z I would have bought one.... But i couldn't. so i didn't buy one. a muscle car is a fat pig, not a Z. I grew up inside cars like the FT86, mitsubishi conquest-starion, 280z, rx7, supra, celica, and 200sx. I know you can toss a car like that as equal as in a Z.
The difference in the Z, is you feel like you're going to kill yourself doing it, but then you recover like a champion. But if i dont feel like that???? Why the fukk should i drive a car like this???? little cars make you feel like your doing 80 when you're doing 40. in the Z youre doing 100mph when you think you're doing 70mph.
The FR-S is great for feeling like a daredevil at granny speeds, while the Z you're a daredevil at evil lawbreaking speed. the Z DOWNSIDE... some heft. The Z upside, you can reach 155mph at exotic car times.
FR-S downside, no power on tap when really needed unless you floor that b1tch. The FR-S upside, you feel like a drift champion at 35mph.
FRS is an everyday mans sports car... a learning car. The Z is true sport ready with 2k in modification. 2k will barely scratch the surface on an frs...

Lug

I've taken my Z and changed the tires out for 185 R14's! Then I added a governor! It is now a true enthusiests car!

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Drex

you are right

i should've remembered that since i lived there in the 80s (but not old enough to drive at the time)

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