Looks like the 2015 Z wont be getting a turbo after all???
 

PARDON IF THIS IS KNOWN INFO

Sadly and surprisingly enough, I read an article from Road&Track that the patented infiniti 3.0 turbo engine we all been excited about is a TURBO-DIESEL set for Europe Obviously this engine won't fly here in a Z. From what it looks like... the 2014 G coupe will be getting the M37H engine producing 360hp. (Possibly 10-20hp boost with a sportier tune) The IPL is rumored to be getting the AMG 5.5 ltr v8. Then there's the mercedes 3.5 that will be another optional engine for the Gcoupe. The G coupe is straying away from number designations so these varied displacements make sense. The Z has been marked by its engine displacement since day one in the U.S. and europe. So I'm sure japan will persist in continuity for the american version of the fairlady???

Article here: 2013 Infiniti G Coupe - 2013 Infiniti G Coupe Future Car First Look on RoadandTrack.com

I bring this to the table because of the inherent kinship between both v37 skyline and Z34fairlady. One thing I heard nissan say about a year ago is that the fairlady and Skyline won't be related anymore. Both will be, soon there own seperate cars. I don't know if the meant that by chassis design or engine? But I do know this. I don't think either engine is appropriate for the Z. As intrigued as I am to see a 5.5L G-coupe. I think its heavier 2+2 bodystyle and long wheelbase allow for this type of engine and displacement increase. Whereas the Z is borderline bloated for its original design philosophy. At this pont i'd be happy with a refined 3.7 with 360hp/305LB TQ(non-hybrid) and a 350lb diet. That would make minimal acceptability for a Z and I have a feeling that won't happen either... the fate of the Z is scary.

Where will the Z go is unclear. But we now know the 3.0T is a pipe dream of a possible FI platform... we'll just have to keep digging for clues.

the G and Z platform separated after G35C/350Z so it is good that they will keep the chassis separate.

nissan needs to watch out though, not to re-create the problem that led to their failure in the late 90's. too many platforms!

Fine, make it a 3.2T, I still don't see FI off the table for the next Z.

A better Z is all I want, no steps backwards, like the 350. Otherwise it is a new company for me.

The only thing they need to do in order for me to be happy is lighten this bad boy up. Keep the power the same, but maybe up the torque a bit, and most importantly get it right under 3000 lbs. BOUGHT! BOUGHT! BOUGHT!

Yeah I agree. The biggest complaint for me on this car is weak on torque. It should be at least above 300. Turbocharge is one solution to achieve this. I still keep my hope on next gen fairlady to go FI.

Yup. I am very happy with the HP, and I wont make serious complaints about the weight, but the torque is severly lacking IMHO.

:iagree:

Same here. I prefer FI, because of greater potential for power-ups, but NA power works for me too :tup:

And a lighter Z sounds great to me!

Oh, wait: The article claims that its the V8 that makes 360+ bhp? Huh?

To me this looks like new GTR platform. Im pretty convinced either Z is going away in favor of Silvia or we will see smaller Z with turbo 4.

Do you mean the next Z would look like this, smaller and lighter eh?

http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs44/i/20...y_s3xychoi.jpg

I can't wait for them to build this!!

I thought the Z is built on the FM platform like the G? I could be wrong though... Either way, we do know this. Infiniti has come out with three new engine patents, nissan has no projected new engines. Just enhancing old ones with upgraded, more refined CVT's.

The only thing I can think of is that nissan will pull YET another already produced Benzo engine for the Z and they're keeping it hush. Whatever happens? I hope that nissan keeps spearheading the trannies. Benz trannies are to smooth for any real sport fun.

needs turbo...

wants turbo...

Deserves turbo...

humm... im pretty sure the 370Z is its own platform. it might be still called a FM platform (like all these V6's are "VQ"), but different version of it.

I like the idea of a 3k lbs (or under) Z, but it is unlikely. All I say is that if the car is going to be somewhat bloated (to an extent), give me all durable materials under the hood and where it counts. The plastic parts have gone too far these days. I am not debating the strength of ABS plastics and such, I just don't personally feel they should be there.

And I could care less if they turbo the next Z from the factory. Just give me decently strong internals, a reliable tranny, and I am set. Greddy, Fast Intentions, Tial, and a host of others will provide with the rest.

That's my avatar bud. :D

For sure its a shortened version of it... but i'm not quite sure its by general design, different other than being chopped down to accommodate a 2 seater.

On another note though... I been reading on what our competitors are looking into for 2015. Ford is looking into TT-v6's and hi-power fuel efficient v8's. hyundai is looking into supercharging the 3.8v6 and toying with lighter versions of the 5.0 r-spec to cram into a gencoupe. camaro isn't saying anything except they are going to be lighter and faster.
so far it seems like if we do get a turbo? The Z will have a hyped up juke engine. They should be working on a 700hp stock streetable GTR and giving us a lighter version of the GTR motor rated @500hp. that would be enough power to keep em at bay.

The Z is downgrading to battle the BRZ? Seriously??? I don't see either car surviving very long going that route. I am honestly beginning to see the brz-frs clan as a novelty car. Mazda has a niche in its category that will be hard to compete against. Im sure, mazda has some tricks up its sleeve to keep its very successful miata, continuously successful.

As mentioned above our "competitors" all have tricks up their sleeves that will surely out pace the Z unless Nissan does something serious for the next model. A simple redesign and meager hp bump isn't going to do it. The next gen Z either needs to be significantly lighter or needs a significantly more powerful motor if it's going to want to be competitive. I mean the mustang is already much faster and just as good in the corners. Imagine when they lighten the car 300lbs like they are saying while still keeping the powerful V8. Even if Nissan lightened the Z by 300lbs too we would still be out matched not having enough power. I know power isn't everything but to the general masses what's on paper is what counts and what sells cars.

^^ Agreed. A sports car is supposed to be powerful.

And this is why im glad im leasing a 2012 Z for only 3 years. I'm already pissed I didnt get a Mustang 5.0.

^^ :shakes head:

I for one would love to see an AMG V8 in the Z, as long as they keep the weight in check and improve the balance. As Clarkson would say, MOAR POWAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH:tup:

LMFAO Lease FTL! Haha

LOL at being stuck with a slow base 370Z that needs 10,000 worth of mods just to hang with the big boys.

I wont miss this car one bit. I actually swore i wouldnt buy another Nissan after the horrible problems with my 2005 Frontier. Another mistake i have to live with.

What's next for the Cayman/S?

From a categorical perspective that's the current Zs closest match up, vision, style, power, handling etc.

If the Z changes vision significantly, to be like a Mustang (muscle car), BRZ (boxter sized car), or genesis (4 seats/heavier) it wouldn't be a Z.

I agree with folks that would like to see a 6 CYL TT at 3,000 Lbs.

You probably got the Z for the wrong reasons then. Get a 5.0 after your lease is up. It seems to be more of what you're after and from all accounts, it seems to be a great car. Not for me, but it seems like it'd be good for you. There will always be bigger boys no matter what you drive though (well, unless it's a Alpha GT-R or something like that, lol).

and what reasons would that be? Looks and Handling? Looks are subjective and the Mustang handles almost as good as an M3 which cost 50K plus.

370Z isnt worth the cost price, thats why they dont sell that well and Nissan is looking in different directions pretty sad for a car that should be an entry level sport car at 30-35K

:icon18: Man, it must SUCK to be you then.

Relax, I didn't say you're making a bad choice or doing something stupid. Like I said, the 5.0 is a great car. I am not saying the Z outhandles the 5.0 or will beta it on the track or anything. The Mustang handles great and is a very capable car, but I am sure it feels different than the Z. The Z is a good blend of looks, fun, handling and enough speed for me. Do I read forums and look at numbers and get desire for more power? Of course, we all do. But I haven't had an instance in actual driving where I thought I really need more power. It would just get me into trouble anyway which I can already get into easy enough with the power we already have.

Anyhow, no need to be defensive. The Z isn't a perfect car or the greatest car out there, but there are plenty of us who are happy with it. It's alright that you are not. If you want pure speed or the absolute fastest car, then it's not it, though and that seems to be what you want and that's cool too. You must understand, though, that you will get some flames for bashing a car on it's own forum site.

Also, it was well known that the 5.0 is the faster car when you got your Z so I'm not sure what you were expecting.

As long as it's lighter with massive grip and sexy appeal.
I could not care if it's Turbo'd.
:D

Apparently you cant read and/or you choose not to research things before you buy them. First off I own a Slomo 370z. Second, I test drove all kinds of different vehicles including multiple 5.0s before I purchased my 370z. I wanted this car as soon as I saw the spy shots for it, and I did my research like any sane person would do before buying a vehicle. Dont get mad at me because you are to lazy to click a mouse a few times, and go to dealerships to take test drives.

Have fun being stuck in your lease of your slow piece of jap crap. :driving:

Im so confused as to why you are in a 2012 Z then? I could maybe understand your anger if you had just leased a brand new 09 or 10 before anyone new anything about the 5.0, but that bish has been out forever, yet you still chose the Z. Sounds to me like the Z has some intangible quality that sucked you in. thats what it was for me anyway. I couldnt be happier unless I was in a ZO6.

I know you already feel pretty damn awful, but here is something to make you feel better.

Bought the round peg to try to mash into the square hole and now has leaser's remorse.

Im not even flaming him for bashing the Z for being slow, because lets face it, it kind of is. Im bashing him for getting himself stuck in a lease and then bitching about it because he didnt by another car that has been out for years now, has a plethora of reviews out there, and could have been test driven til his hearts content.

Didn't think it was big flames. I was just trying to diffuse the situation before it derailed this thread too much.

If it was all about raw numbers, everyone would drive like 3 different cars for their needs so there are definitely intangibles to owning and loving a car. I won't say my Z is faster than a 5.0 but I would definitely still rather have my Z.

Well than, thats just stupid.:gtfo2:

Like i said im glad i leased the car because the 370Z didnt turn out to be what i expected, I dont know if having a sport package or anything would of changed my mind. Also Im talking about the 2013 Mustang coming out in the next month or two i was planning on waiting for before i got the Z.
I drove so many different cars even was going to be a wannabe baller and lease the M3 or C63 AMG but yes ive always loved the old school 240Z and my cousins had a twin turbo 300ZX and love the looks of the 370z for sure but in 3 years no more Nissan for me.

Now you are talking about a whole other class of vehicles. You sound like you still dont know what the hell you want and/or will never be happy. :shakes head:

Leasers remorse man, already mentioned. Its only 3 years that im screwed, but I'll enjoy never buying a Nissan product again. Terrible company cheap *** everything.

and on that note im out sorry for ruining the thread.