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UNKNOWN_370 08-10-2012 08:36 AM

Looks like the 2015 Z wont be getting a turbo after all???
 
PARDON IF THIS IS KNOWN INFO

Sadly and surprisingly enough, I read an article from Road&Track that the patented infiniti 3.0 turbo engine we all been excited about is a TURBO-DIESEL set for Europe Obviously this engine won't fly here in a Z. From what it looks like... the 2014 G coupe will be getting the M37H engine producing 360hp. (Possibly 10-20hp boost with a sportier tune) The IPL is rumored to be getting the AMG 5.5 ltr v8. Then there's the mercedes 3.5 that will be another optional engine for the Gcoupe. The G coupe is straying away from number designations so these varied displacements make sense. The Z has been marked by its engine displacement since day one in the U.S. and europe. So I'm sure japan will persist in continuity for the american version of the fairlady???

Article here: 2013 Infiniti G Coupe - 2013 Infiniti G Coupe Future Car First Look on RoadandTrack.com

I bring this to the table because of the inherent kinship between both v37 skyline and Z34fairlady. One thing I heard nissan say about a year ago is that the fairlady and Skyline won't be related anymore. Both will be, soon there own seperate cars. I don't know if the meant that by chassis design or engine? But I do know this. I don't think either engine is appropriate for the Z. As intrigued as I am to see a 5.5L G-coupe. I think its heavier 2+2 bodystyle and long wheelbase allow for this type of engine and displacement increase. Whereas the Z is borderline bloated for its original design philosophy. At this pont i'd be happy with a refined 3.7 with 360hp/305LB TQ(non-hybrid) and a 350lb diet. That would make minimal acceptability for a Z and I have a feeling that won't happen either... the fate of the Z is scary.

Where will the Z go is unclear. But we now know the 3.0T is a pipe dream of a possible FI platform... we'll just have to keep digging for clues.

kenchan 08-10-2012 09:29 AM

the G and Z platform separated after G35C/350Z so it is good that they will keep the chassis separate.

nissan needs to watch out though, not to re-create the problem that led to their failure in the late 90's. too many platforms!

lemon-fresh 08-10-2012 10:18 AM

Fine, make it a 3.2T, I still don't see FI off the table for the next Z.

Mt Tam I am 08-10-2012 10:36 AM

A better Z is all I want, no steps backwards, like the 350. Otherwise it is a new company for me.

whoady4shoady 08-10-2012 10:46 AM

The only thing they need to do in order for me to be happy is lighten this bad boy up. Keep the power the same, but maybe up the torque a bit, and most importantly get it right under 3000 lbs. BOUGHT! BOUGHT! BOUGHT!

forza370z 08-10-2012 11:15 AM

Yeah I agree. The biggest complaint for me on this car is weak on torque. It should be at least above 300. Turbocharge is one solution to achieve this. I still keep my hope on next gen fairlady to go FI.

whoady4shoady 08-10-2012 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by forza370z (Post 1862409)
Yeah I agree. The biggest complaint for me on this car is weak on torque. It should be at least above 300. Turbocharge is one solution to achieve this. I still keep my hope on next gen fairlady to go FI.

Yup. I am very happy with the HP, and I wont make serious complaints about the weight, but the torque is severly lacking IMHO.

Jordo! 08-10-2012 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mt Tam I am (Post 1862347)
A better Z is all I want, no steps backwards, like the 350. Otherwise it is a new company for me.

:iagree:

Same here. I prefer FI, because of greater potential for power-ups, but NA power works for me too :tup:

And a lighter Z sounds great to me!

Oh, wait: The article claims that its the V8 that makes 360+ bhp? Huh?

Shamu 08-10-2012 12:30 PM

To me this looks like new GTR platform. Im pretty convinced either Z is going away in favor of Silvia or we will see smaller Z with turbo 4.

owi1kenobi 08-10-2012 12:52 PM

Do you mean the next Z would look like this, smaller and lighter eh?

http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs44/i/20...y_s3xychoi.jpg

I can't wait for them to build this!!

UNKNOWN_370 08-10-2012 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1862201)
the G and Z platform separated after G35C/350Z so it is good that they will keep the chassis separate.

nissan needs to watch out though, not to re-create the problem that led to their failure in the late 90's. too many platforms!

I thought the Z is built on the FM platform like the G? I could be wrong though... Either way, we do know this. Infiniti has come out with three new engine patents, nissan has no projected new engines. Just enhancing old ones with upgraded, more refined CVT's.

The only thing I can think of is that nissan will pull YET another already produced Benzo engine for the Z and they're keeping it hush. Whatever happens? I hope that nissan keeps spearheading the trannies. Benz trannies are to smooth for any real sport fun.

Supergoji 08-10-2012 01:39 PM

needs turbo...

whoady4shoady 08-10-2012 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supergoji (Post 1862675)
needs turbo...

wants turbo...

Huck 08-10-2012 03:33 PM

Deserves turbo...

kenchan 08-10-2012 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 1862674)
I thought the Z is built on the FM platform like the G? I could be wrong though... Either way, we do know this. Infiniti has come out with three new engine patents, nissan has no projected new engines. Just enhancing old ones with upgraded, more refined CVT's.

The only thing I can think of is that nissan will pull YET another already produced Benzo engine for the Z and they're keeping it hush. Whatever happens? I hope that nissan keeps spearheading the trannies. Benz trannies are to smooth for any real sport fun.

humm... im pretty sure the 370Z is its own platform. it might be still called a FM platform (like all these V6's are "VQ"), but different version of it.


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