Just curious, why didn't Nissan use CVT on Z?

andre12031948 · 08-09-2012, 12:26 PM

ALL of that plus CVT uses a rubber band as main part for shifting-not good for high H.P.

kenchan · 08-09-2012, 12:41 PM

you guys are making me not want to buy # (3) per mr.alcheng's recommendation.

alcheng · 08-09-2012, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

you guys are making me not want to buy # (3) per mr.alcheng's recommendation.

No worry Mr.kenchan.... go for (3) since it is not a Z...

To the OP, think about "Why does the Z need a CVT??"

Now you know why doesn't the Z have a CVT???
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No??
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Think deeply....

DIGItonium · 08-09-2012, 01:37 PM

I have a friend who is a tech at the dealership. He replaced a bunch of CVTs. Everytime I go there for a visit they're replacing CVTs. It doesn't seem to have a good track record.

kenchan · 08-09-2012, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by alcheng

No worry Mr.kenchan.... go for (3) since it is not a Z...

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Originally Posted by DIGItonium

I have a friend who is a tech at the dealership. He replaced a bunch of CVTs. Everytime I go there for a visit they're replacing CVTs. It doesn't seem to have a good track record.

whoady4shoady · 08-09-2012, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DIGItonium

I have a friend who is a tech at the dealership. He replaced a bunch of CVTs. Everytime I go there for a visit they're replacing CVTs. It doesn't seem to have a good track record.

How many people are tracking CVTs?

edub370 · 08-09-2012, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by whoady4shoady

How many people are tracking CVTs?

hopefully nobody

PaulZ370 · 08-09-2012, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DIGItonium

I have a friend who is a tech at the dealership. He replaced a bunch of CVTs. Everytime I go there for a visit they're replacing CVTs. It doesn't seem to have a good track record.

You mean to tell me no one replaces 'normal' Auto Tranny's? Nobody experiences Auto tranny failures on any other vehicle?

Here is my track record: I have an 08 Altima with the CVT. I love the smooth quite non-bumpy ride when I am just taking a "family" ride somewhere, or stuck driving in heavy traffic. If you've never experienced a CVT going up a steep upgrade with no shifting, abrupt bucking, and gear hunting, then you don't know the CVT's merits.

And, since I don't abuse it, I've not had to do anything on it but change the fluid at the regular maintenance intervals.

I also have an '05 Titan, and its the 'normal' auto tranny. I have had no issues with it either, and it is fun to drive too.

..and last but not least, I bought my 370Z with a manual tranny for the sportiness and the thrill. Each vehicle has its own prupose and mission, and I love driving them all.

HKYStormFront · 08-09-2012, 03:27 PM

the simple answer is that nissan's CVT transmission is made for FWD applications (altima, maxima, quest, etc) and the 7spd auto was made for the RWD based applications (370z, G37 coupe and sedan, M sedan, etc). also, i'm sure the torque rating of the CVT is much lower than a traditional automatic that's had time to evolve and become robust. the CVT actually makes a lot of sense in a FWD application since the packaging of it is, i believe, quite a bit smaller than a traditional automatic, especially a 6 or more speed auto.

PaulZ370 · 08-09-2012, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by HKYStormFront

the simple answer is that nissan's CVT transmission is made for FWD applications (altima, maxima, quest, etc) and the 7spd auto was made for the RWD based applications (370z, G37 coupe and sedan, M sedan, etc). also, i'm sure the torque rating of the CVT is much lower than a traditional automatic that's had time to evolve and become robust. the CVT actually makes a lot of sense in a FWD application since the packaging of it is, i believe, quite a bit smaller than a traditional automatic, especially a 6 or more speed auto.

... Good Answer...

crazyyankfan · 08-09-2012, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by MarkGideon

The CVT is just fine for my 2.5 Altima, but I would not want one in my Z. It is really a disconnected driving experience.

Although, I do wonder at times why the little 2.5 Altima engine does just fine on the highway at 75 MPH barely turning 2,000 RPMs, while the Z is closer to 2,500 RPMs. With the extra power of the 370 it would have been nice for that extra gear in the AT to be more of an overdrive for better mileage.

My 6MT Z cruise at 80 mph around 3000 rpm. The engines are different. VQ is a much higher rev engine than the 2.5 Altima one.

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Originally Posted by Mt Tam I am

My question is not about CVT but why make a sports car with an auto at all?

Second that!!

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Originally Posted by whoady4shoady

How many people are tracking CVTs?

DIGItonium · 08-09-2012, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulZ370

You mean to tell me no one replaces 'normal' Auto Tranny's? Nobody experiences Auto tranny failures on any other vehicle?

Here is my track record: I have an 08 Altima with the CVT...

I had the Altima as a loaner for a day. It's not a bad car, but the engine drone with the CVT is just awkward. It's not a deal breaker, just awkward sounding haha.

PaulZ370 · 08-09-2012, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DIGItonium

I had the Altima as a loaner for a day. It's not a bad car, but the engine drone with the CVT is just awkward. It's not a deal breaker, just awkward sounding haha.

No drone in my Altima. Quite as a bird (non-chirping kind...)!

But, just to get back to the subject at hand - CVT is for front wheel drive vehicles. You find it in the Maxima and the Altima but not in the Rear Wheel Drive Nissans, to include the Z. I think the best explanation given is by HKYStormFront a few posts above this post...

Zenki370 · 08-09-2012, 06:23 PM

CVT cost Nissan my money towards a maxima....

crazyyankfan · 08-09-2012, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DIGItonium

I had the Altima as a loaner for a day. It's not a bad car, but the engine drone with the CVT is just awkward. It's not a deal breaker, just awkward sounding haha.

I guess it's kinda judgement call. A friend of mine owns an Altima and he loves it. He told me the acceleration is so smooth (ok...certainly not as fast as Z), and you won't feel the gear-shifting hump like regular auto.

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HKYStormFront A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Greer, SC Posts: 14,954 Drives: 06 Frontier SE 6spd Rep Power: 52	the simple answer is that nissan's CVT transmission is made for FWD applications (altima, maxima, quest, etc) and the 7spd auto was made for the RWD based applications (370z, G37 coupe and sedan, M sedan, etc). also, i'm sure the torque rating of the CVT is much lower than a traditional automatic that's had time to evolve and become robust. the CVT actually makes a lot of sense in a FWD application since the packaging of it is, i believe, quite a bit smaller than a traditional automatic, especially a 6 or more speed auto. __________________ Patrick // 06 Frontier 6spd Nismosis // Mods: Uprev Tuned @ Z1 Motorsports: 257whp & 292 ft lbs 09 Pontiac G8 GXP // M6 // Sunroof // Tint... For now

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