Future of the Z?

homeryansta · 07-27-2012, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by KERMIT

But human error is the cause of most accidents... And I would counter argue that a computer with the right sensors can pay attention to many more things (animals, idiot drivers, etc...) than a human ever could.

I'm a programmer and I spend most days fixing bugs.

UNKNOWN_370 · 07-27-2012, 04:05 PM

as controlled assistive tech on a highway... maybe? on streets? hell naw.

kenchan · 07-27-2012, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by homeryansta

I'm a programmer and I spend most days fixing bugs.

reality sets in.

until hvac can sense human comfort and automatically change climate inside the cabin, or a nav telepathically detect where you want to go, i dont trust computers that much.

i suppose with night vision and the car making recommendations, that would be okay. but then it would sound like advertisement.

"kenchan you are hungry, make a stop at the next charburger joint on your right 200yards."

edub370 · 07-27-2012, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Spikuh

Same with the child example. There is actually a vehicle in production currently that comes with sensors that will apply the brakes and stop the vehicle should something cross behind you and you either don't see it or don't brake soon enough.

But thats the problem exactly. it senses the child already in your path and reacts. where as i can see a child running across his yard and slow down before he gets to the street and i need to panic brake

they should be used as an aid, not a replacement

i will again say, computers can only react. not be instictive. not in our lifetime probably

falconfixer · 07-27-2012, 04:14 PM

remember, programs and software are only as perfect as the human creating the source code.

kenchan · 07-27-2012, 04:16 PM

and most often than not, nerds are programming who dont know how to drive in the first place... lol

Spikuh · 07-27-2012, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by edub370

But thats the problem exactly. it senses the child already in your path and reacts. where as i can see a child running across his yard and slow down before he gets to the street and i need to panic brake

they should be used as an aid, not a replacement

i will again say, computers can only react. not be instictive. not in our lifetime probably

So turn the sensors outward so it sees them before they cross in front of you...

kenchan · 07-27-2012, 04:37 PM

would suck to drive on rural roads with tall grass blowing in the wind towards the road. will be like watching a novice MT driver practicing how to work the clutch...

UNKNOWN_370 · 07-27-2012, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

and most often than not, nerds are programming who dont know how to drive in the first place... lol

UNKNOWN_370 · 07-27-2012, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

reality sets in.

until hvac can sense human comfort and automatically change climate inside the cabin, or a nav telepathically detect where you want to go, i dont trust computers that much.

i suppose with night vision and the car making recommendations, that would be okay. but then it would sound like advertisement.

"kenchan you are hungry, make a stop at the next charburger joint on your right 200yards."

good point.

edub370 · 07-27-2012, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Spikuh

So turn the sensors outward so it sees them before they cross in front of you...

So then they pick up every person at a sidewalk, or crossing a street, or at a bus stop...

the computer doesnt know which people are likely to dart in front of a car. a kid with a pall or a dog in a yard YOU can distinguish, but not a comp

kenchan · 07-27-2012, 04:59 PM

^^ +1

and stupid-arse pranksters will line up next to high ways doing the high kick making the car go nuts trying to decide if he's going to cross the road or just goofing around.

Vertigo · 07-27-2012, 05:46 PM

As stated, there are far too many variables in everyday driving for the entire process to be automated. Trading bad drivers for malfunctioning computers isn't the answer.

At least you can do something about a bad driver.

kenchan · 07-27-2012, 05:49 PM

yah, and imagine the lawsuits car makers and software/hardware makers will face.

the biggest idiots will become rich for.. just being idiots.

Vertigo · 07-27-2012, 05:58 PM

Toyota's sticky gas pedal times 974497896439044964

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UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14858	as controlled assistive tech on a highway... maybe? on streets? hell naw.

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kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	and most often than not, nerds are programming who dont know how to drive in the first place... lol

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kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	would suck to drive on rural roads with tall grass blowing in the wind towards the road. will be like watching a novice MT driver practicing how to work the clutch...

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kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	^^ +1 and stupid-arse pranksters will line up next to high ways doing the high kick making the car go nuts trying to decide if he's going to cross the road or just goofing around.

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Vertigo A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 15,476 Drives: 370z / R32 Rep Power: 220	As stated, there are far too many variables in everyday driving for the entire process to be automated. Trading bad drivers for malfunctioning computers isn't the answer. At least you can do something about a bad driver.

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kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	yah, and imagine the lawsuits car makers and software/hardware makers will face. the biggest idiots will become rich for.. just being idiots.

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Vertigo A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 15,476 Drives: 370z / R32 Rep Power: 220	Toyota's sticky gas pedal times 974497896439044964