Need Convincing Advice

B&W_Evader · 07-27-2012, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by TerribleONE

Thats a pretty good pitch! haha..

I can find plenty of examples of "adults" crashing their cars and injuring/killing people. No one likes stereo types, and some kids CAN handle the responsibility. Hell, I got my pilots license at 18, if they let kids FLY they can handle a entry level sports car. If they are going to do something stupid, it could happen in a dae-woo or a Z... IMO

But there's a reason why your insurance will be 3-4x what I'm paying...

edub370 · 07-27-2012, 11:33 AM

apparently i needed wealthier parents at 16 years old lol

TerribleONE · 07-27-2012, 11:34 AM

I pay 67$ a month on my Z.. bet its not that much more

I agree that statistics do prove your point. However it is not fair to automatically assume that bad things will happen. My evo never had a mark on it, grew up with kids with nice cars (M3s, vette's, V8 chargers, ect) that had absolutely no issues taking care of them...

kenchan · 07-27-2012, 11:35 AM

well, 99% of kids cannot be trusted. you are probably the rare 1%.

TerribleONE · 07-27-2012, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

well, 99% of kids cannot be trusted. you are probably the rare 1%.

I guess it helps growing up in the desert driving my parents truck around, and riding MX since I was 3.. I mean I had my street bike permit at 15 1/2 and was riding an R6... Never dropped it or got a ticket. I remember at 12 years old I was launching my families boat, backing it down the ramp with no one in the truck but me! the good ole days. Just sayin, not all 16 year olds are incompetant

didymus · 07-27-2012, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

well, 99% of kids cannot be trusted. you are probably the rare 1%.

That's what 100% tell themselves

bigdog1250 · 07-27-2012, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Tya

I understand your concern but what my parents can afford is none of your business.

@Kaien I thank you for the long term test results.

Now I'll see what vehicle I do get. If I do get a Z, I'll post back.

But really, all these negative comments are not needed.

Also, I am confident enough of my driving skills and it's not like I'm going to be driving a Z within a month or so anyway, no worries.

2009 Nissan 370Z Touring: 6858 miles/20 observed mpg.

ANY smart newly licensed driver should NOT be confident in their driving abilities. There are so many dangers of the road that take time to get used to. Even if you've been racing cars on the track all your life, the real road poses many threats and should not be underestimated. I suggest you not be confident in your abilities.

What you can be though is disciplined, and that is something that will allow you to own and stay safe in a sports car. I drove an '86 celica for a year or two then bought and paid for a 350z when I was 17... on my own. But that's another argument to be had.

If you're disciplined then there should be no problem. But don't give your parents the argument that you are a "skilled" driver... because you can't be yet.

whoady4shoady · 07-27-2012, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TerribleONE

I guess it helps growing up in the desert driving my parents truck around, and riding MX since I was 3.. I mean I had my street bike permit at 15 1/2 and was riding an R6... Never dropped it or got a ticket. I remember at 12 years old I was launching my families boat, backing it down the ramp with no one in the truck but me! the good ole days. Just sayin, not all 16 year olds are incompetant

That reminds me of places where kids can drink at a young age, and most of them grow up not binge drinking or doing stupid things while heavily intoxicated from what I have read.

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Originally Posted by bigdog1250

ANY smart newly licensed driver should NOT be confident in their driving abilities. There are so many dangers of the road that take time to get used to. Even if you've been racing cars on the track all your life, the real road poses many threats and should not be underestimated. I suggest you not be confident in your abilities.

What you can be though is disciplined, and that is something that will allow you to own and stay safe in a sports car. I drove an '86 celica for a year or two then bought and paid for a 350z when I was 17... on my own. But that's another argument to be had.

If you're disciplined then there should be no problem. But don't give your parents the argument that you are a "skilled" driver... because you can't be yet.

Thats a very good point!

TerribleONE · 07-27-2012, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by whoady4shoady

That reminds me of places where kids can drink at a young age, and most of them grow up not binge drinking or doing stupid things while heavily intoxicated from what I have read.

Thats a very good point!

thats actually usually how it works.. the most sheltered ones end up in the most trouble..

Garrett63 · 07-27-2012, 12:59 PM

The Z doesn't scream "I'm driving my dad's car" like the BMW or "Mom's car" with the Mercedes. only thing that comes to mind is "damn that's a nice car.." To kids around that age, people would just think you're a really young entrepreneur.

bigdog1250 · 07-27-2012, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Garrett63

The Z doesn't scream "I'm driving my dad's car" like the BMW or "Mom's car" with the Mercedes. only thing that comes to mind is "damn that's a nice car.." To kids around that age, people would just think you're a really young entrepreneur.

^ haha I agree - especially living in the SF Bay Area

"There goes that Zuckerberg kid"

Garrett63 · 07-27-2012, 01:04 PM

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"There goes that Zuckerberg kid"

nguyenulm · 07-27-2012, 01:07 PM

What do you expect? Starting a post about getting a first car using mommy and daddy's money , especially one like the 370z, will warrant negative comments.

I worked hard in life and getting a 370z is a way to show myself I made it, that hard work really does pay off.

In all serious, stick with a slower car. Can't go wrong with Hondas.

whoady4shoady · 07-27-2012, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by TerribleONE

thats actually usually how it works.. the most sheltered ones end up in the most trouble..

Ill agree with that since I have seen it first hand with my sheltered cousins.

Garrett63 · 07-27-2012, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by nguyenulm

What do you expect? Starting a post about getting a first car using mommy and daddy's money , especially one like the 370z, will warrant negative comments.

I worked hard in life and getting a 370z is a way to show myself I made it, that hard work really does pay off.

In all serious, stick with a slower car. Can't go wrong with Hondas.

I have to say although having a Z as your first car at that age is bad ***, I don't think it will be good in the long run.. It's a great feeling moving up from the bottom in car niceness than immediately at a that class in car. I started with a '72 pontiac Le mans when I was 16. Purchased a 99 jeep wrangler(in 06) that was a lifted 4banger and couldn't get above 62 mph with the peddle to the floor in 5th gear. sometimes max was 55mph depending on the wind since the wrangler is less aerodynamic than a cement truck.

then in 08 I thought I purchased my dream car in an 07 dodge charger SE. It was definitely a step up for me into a modern car, then 2 years later I saw one on the road at least 4 times a day so it got old fast...

I'm 25 now, just purchased my Z a month ago and its only up from here! I can't even imagine going from a same class of car to a lower or even equal class of car and that might happen getting this type of car right out of the gate. A loss of excitement when it comes to cars.

Sorry for the life story... I meant to stop after my jeep, but the writer in me just kept going.

07-27-2012, 11:33 AM	#32 (permalink)
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07-27-2012, 11:34 AM	#33 (permalink)
TerribleONE A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Socal Posts: 10,203 Drives: WOT Rep Power: 5850	I pay 67$ a month on my Z.. bet its not that much more I agree that statistics do prove your point. However it is not fair to automatically assume that bad things will happen. My evo never had a mark on it, grew up with kids with nice cars (M3s, vette's, V8 chargers, ect) that had absolutely no issues taking care of them... __________________ 638WHP 541WTQ @ 13.5PSI Build thread

07-27-2012, 12:59 PM	#40 (permalink)
Garrett63 Base Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: CA Posts: 135 Drives: 40th 370z Rep Power: 14	The Z doesn't scream "I'm driving my dad's car" like the BMW or "Mom's car" with the Mercedes. only thing that comes to mind is "damn that's a nice car.." To kids around that age, people would just think you're a really young entrepreneur. __________________

07-27-2012, 01:07 PM	#43 (permalink)
nguyenulm Base Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 39 Drives: 2011 370z - Sport - Rep Power: 14	What do you expect? Starting a post about getting a first car using mommy and daddy's money , especially one like the 370z, will warrant negative comments. I worked hard in life and getting a 370z is a way to show myself I made it, that hard work really does pay off. In all serious, stick with a slower car. Can't go wrong with Hondas. __________________ 2011 PW 370z Sport\| Tanabe CBE \| Project Mu brakes \| Kenwood/Polk audio

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07-27-2012, 11:35 AM	#34 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	well, 99% of kids cannot be trusted. you are probably the rare 1%.