Why can't very capeable people do what Ford can ....

Davey

Nooooo!

I would love to see an 8,000 RPM TT 3.0 in a smaller chassis or the V8 or, well, just about anything except "we made the Z cheaper, smaller, slower to sell more and compete with the Miata/BRZ."

Oh, and please no FWD.

Mt Tam I am

I completely agree with you.

CAFE standards are what was mentioned by Nissan so I am intentionally not forgeting this point, even though I'd like too. I like the math as well: 40K vs 500 monthly sales.

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buddyZ

I would love a V8 or F1 options, i mean how are they going to have a supercharged Nissan Frontier from the factory and never have anything for their entry level sport car..

ZMan8

most of you are ignoring a simple fact that you need to take into account ....taxes. In the US we do not pay a tax for higher displacement engines. No difference if you buy a 4 pot, v6 or v8. In Europe and Asia, they are very heavily taxed for these things. Their cost to own a car is easily 3-4 times what Americans pay (higher insurance costs/ taxes/higher gas prices) Since the Z is a "world" brand and not specifically catering to the US, it will be designed to be "affordable" for the world. historically its always been an affordable sports car (not including Z32 TT), and that's how they will keep it.

I don't think the Z needs a v-8. sure it adds lots of power, but then the Z gets heavy, and even worse balance. what they need to do is keep the v-6, lower the displacement and put single or twin turbo. Honesly, if they would just make the Z <3000 lbs they don't even have to change the engine much (just give it the standard 15-20 hp bump). The Z's competition will always be BMW Z4, Audi TT, Porsche Boxster S/cayman S (& R as well).

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Davey

That's a great point ZMan8 but I guess I'm just saying, I'd just like something different besides "even bigger V6".

A nice lightweight aluminum V8 would be fine, if the Z is going to continue to be 3300 lbs.

Or a high-revving turbo 4 or even a twin turbo 2.5L V6 would all be welcome in a smaller, lighter chassis.

The current motor could add DI and a little more compression and get another 20 HP or so, and be a great motor for the Z if it simply dropped 200 - 400 lbs.

All around, I'm always excited when Nissan starts talking next-gen Z.

Footloose301

This just in:

Nissan is going to use large single turbo Rotary engines.

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Footloose301

Exactly.

Ford:
V6 Mustang 300HP
V8 Mustang 415HP
Mustang GT500 660HP

Chevy
V6 Camaro 300HP
V8 Camaro 420HP
Corvette 438HP
Corvette Z06 505HP
Crovette ZR1 638HP

Nissan
370Z 332HP
GTR 545HP

...do you guys NOT see the difference here?!?!

If the Z was bumped up for 400-420HP it wouldn't take away from the GTR at all. Each year the GTR gets a spec bump and price increase. It costs MORE than twice our cars, with good reason, but if the Z can close the gap it would make it much more competitive and fun, all without taking away from a GTR. A GTR is considered by many as a "super car", hence the price tag and its capability to kick *** around any track. The Z couldn't touch the GTR even with 400HP, so it would only help sell the Z because many people expecting more start to turn to the V8 domestics and Nissan loses out on those sales to Ford and Chevy.

I for instance have been heavily considering a Corvette, but due to each and every old fart owning one I have held off.

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Footloose301

What about Car and Driver? Competition is far more open these days when you've got a Mustang kicking our Z's butt around the track with a similar price tag.

Best-Handling Car For Less Than $40,000: 370Z vs. Evo, Mustang GT, GTI, Miata, Mini JCW - Feature - Car and Driver

Not to mention people thinking the BRZ is anywhere near becoming a "competition" for the Z....

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kenchan

Dead end, pal. it said.

Davey

I think "dead horse" would be better for that article, considering recent posting history.

kenchan

Mt Tam I am

Once again I do not know what is possible, but it does seem that a mass produced GTR engine that puts out less HP would be possible while staying with a six.

I have also heard here at the370z.com, that the Z32 tt nearly bankrupted Nissan, so they will never make another turbo Z. Yet the new talk is of a turbo 4.

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elmz

I think everyone is so caught up in HP. What the Z really needs to do is get to sub 3000 lbs while out putting similar power. But sure, more torque would be nice

whoady4shoady

Dont be mad cause a dead horse is faster around a track than our Zs.

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kenchan

but that was pre-french guy when nissan had bazillian platforms each dedicated to pretty much its own car. nissan needed an overhaul very badly and the french guy did a great job cutting out the crap/fat and keeping things lean.