2015 speculation

Isamu · 07-27-2012, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN

Who cares if it's a smaller motor? Makes the car lighter and affordable (maintence). Upgrades would be cheaper also. As long as its reliable and you can throw anything at it power wise I'd be good to go. Make that baby all wheel drive and you will have a bad a$$ car.

they won't go awd... no baby GTRs here... but I agree, going back to a smaller FI motor would be practical and amazing.. and they can do what they did with the JUKE.. sport mode, turns the boost up, and eco mode...

mhcoss · 07-27-2012, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN

Who cares if it's a smaller motor? Makes the car lighter and affordable (maintence). Upgrades would be cheaper also. As long as its reliable and you can throw anything at it power wise I'd be good to go. Make that baby all wheel drive and you will have a bad a$$ car.

I bought it for RWD... AWD is not all its cracked up to be. A smaller motor is lame, you won't be able to throw anything at it power wise.

b1adesofcha0s · 07-27-2012, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by mhcoss

I bought it for RWD... AWD is not all its cracked up to be. A smaller motor is lame, you won't be able to throw anything at it power wise.

If they go with a smaller motor they will most likely also add FI to keep the power up. With FI you can throw way more power at it than you can now.

SPOHN · 07-27-2012, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by mhcoss

I bought it for RWD... AWD is not all its cracked up to be. A smaller motor is lame, you won't be able to throw anything at it power wise.

How is that? Have you seen what the Evo's WRX can do. Yes their flat four but that doesn't make much difference with today's technology plus most likely they will be adding direct fuel injection.

Davey · 07-27-2012, 10:17 AM

Forced induction with DI on a moderate displacement engine (2.5L roughly) 4 or 6 seems likely what we will see. Hopefully the internals are done well like on more recent VQ's so the stock short block will hold together when you turn up the boost.

Isamu · 07-27-2012, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by mhcoss

I bought it for RWD... AWD is not all its cracked up to be. A smaller motor is lame, you won't be able to throw anything at it power wise.

I have to ask, do you know anything about building power?

Isamu · 07-27-2012, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN

How is that? Have you seen what the Evo's WRX can do. Yes their flat four but that doesn't make much difference with today's technology plus most likely they will be adding direct fuel injection.

dude... my 98 GSX was making over 380awhp on a stock block and I spent less then 3k.. I agree with you 100%

and last time I checked small displacement v-8s were making upwards of 700hp with FI

mhcoss · 07-27-2012, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

If they go with a smaller motor they will most likely also add FI to keep the power up. With FI you can throw way more power at it than you can now.

The smaller motor will have a lower upper power limit... Displacement is king, even with today's tech. The current motor responds to boost well and provides some great numbers

TerribleONE · 07-27-2012, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Isamu

dude... my 98 GSX was making over 380awhp on a stock block and I spent less then 3k.. I agree with you 100%

and last time I checked small displacement v-8s were making upwards of 700hp with FI

mmm GSX... Il never forget the time I drove my friends 600awhp one with a stripped down interior, AC delete, and some handling mods. THAT was a fun car

b1adesofcha0s · 07-27-2012, 11:49 AM

I would hope with a factory FI option, it would be built to handle more boost. It should provide much better bang for your buck in terms of just bolt on mods with a tune. That is what a large majority of people get anyways.

mhcoss · 07-27-2012, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Isamu

dude... my 98 GSX was making over 380awhp on a stock block and I spent less then 3k.. I agree with you 100%

and last time I checked small displacement v-8s were making upwards of 700hp with FI

Thank you for proving my point exactly. The Z's engine can make 500+ whp on stock block and small displacement v-8s can easily do 700. It will take a seriously built 4 banger to put up those kind of numbers and I am skeptical it would even be possible on pump gas.

Isamu · 07-27-2012, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by TerribleONE

mmm GSX... Il never forget the time I drove my friends 600awhp one with a stripped down interior, AC delete, and some handling mods. THAT was a fun car

had it not met an untimely end... I would have had 600awhp... lol

Isamu · 07-27-2012, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by mhcoss

Thank you for proving my point exactly. The Z's engine can make 500+ whp on stock block and small displacement v-8s can easily do 700. It will take a seriously built 4 banger to put up those kind of numbers and I am skeptical it would even be possible on pump gas.

I was talking displacement tho...small displacement as in 2.8L...

I have a friend who had a 760awhp 1st gen eclipse.. inline4... huge turbo.. pump gas... revved like a mofo too..

mhcoss · 07-27-2012, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Isamu

I was talking displacement tho...small displacement as in 2.8L...

I have a friend who had a 760awhp 1st gen eclipse.. inline4... huge turbo.. pump gas... revved like a mofo too..

You make the same mods on a bigger engine and you'd have more power.

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A 2.8L-3.0L v-8 in our Zs would get me excited. If they downgrade to 4-banger I won't be purchasing the next model

Isamu · 07-27-2012, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by mhcoss

You make the same mods on a bigger engine and you'd have more power.

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A 2.8L-3.0L v-8 in our Zs would get me excited. If they downgrade to 4-banger I won't be purchasing the next model

they won't put a I4 in a z...

they would designate that the new silvia... no way nissan is dumb enough to do that..

but what do you need MORE then 700whp for? I mean really?

and personally a v6 is just fine

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Davey A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Indiana Posts: 3,766 Drives: '15 NISMO 6MT Rep Power: 117171	Forced induction with DI on a moderate displacement engine (2.5L roughly) 4 or 6 seems likely what we will see. Hopefully the internals are done well like on more recent VQ's so the stock short block will hold together when you turn up the boost.