370z...best handling car available?

evoAXE · 07-19-2012, 09:58 PM

Kind of an interesting read. Apologies if this has been posted before. I searched and did not see anything.

Best-Handling Car For Less Than $40,000: 370Z vs. Evo, Mustang GT, GTI, Miata, Mini JCW - Feature - Car and Driver

Couple of curious quotes

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But midcorner bumps upset the multilink rear end.

but they don't have the same complaint about the mustang

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But great capability doesn’t necessarily translate into great handling.

And that braking feat comes with a caveat: The Z exhibited the worst fade in our standard five-stop, 70-to-0-mph braking test. Twenty-nine feet separated its shortest stops from the longest, and the Z’s brakes proved to be the car’s Achilles’ heel.

sounds like more of the same BS from when they tried to explain why they wrecked a NISMO. Somehow the mustang stopped 12 feet faster on the first stop, which doesn't make any sense with the puny rear brakes it has.

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Remove the Stang’s horsepower advantage by cutting the straights out of a lap, and the Nissan is even with the Ford. It accomplishes this, in large part, thanks to its accurate, predictable, and well-weighted steering.

I don't understand how they couldn't get a 370z to handle better than a mustang. I have driven both and the 370z handles WAY BETTER

I always knew Car and Driver was biased, but somehow they overheated the car WITH AN OIL COOLER and overheated $600 NISMO brakes pads... sounds like they just want an excuse....

evoAXE · 07-19-2012, 09:59 PM

Final results

dmhenderson · 07-19-2012, 10:00 PM

Yeah I had that mag and kinda hand-waved it. The reviewer sounds biased tbh. Also if there's a lotus-anything for under 40k i flat out guarantee it handles better than any of those cars.

dmhenderson · 07-19-2012, 10:01 PM

"Nissan 370z is less fun to drive than a mazda miata and/or a mini cooper" Gonna go ahead and tune out now.

m4a1mustang · 07-19-2012, 10:11 PM

cossie1600 · 07-19-2012, 10:13 PM

I am going out to buy an EVO now!

LakeShow · 07-19-2012, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600

I am going out to buy an EVO now!

Haha exactly!

blackcherry20 · 07-19-2012, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by dmhenderson

"Nissan 370z is less fun to drive than a mazda miata and/or a mini cooper" Or a brown Cube... Gonna go ahead and tune out now.

What
Ever

evoAXE · 07-19-2012, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Did you replace a 370Z with a Mustang? Why? Do you agree with this article?

UNKNOWN_370 · 07-19-2012, 10:43 PM

This article completely blew me away when it came out. I have driven the mustang 5.0, Evo and own a Z. While the Evo and Z for me are a toss up... I find the mustang to be capable but not as well poised as the Z. Maybe its driving style, tastes or whatever. I felt the Z to have the best median of power handling and fun to drive factor... as far as brake fade... I put my brakes through hell on the street and off road. I never felt any fade unless I spend an unusually long time beating them up... Now I have upgraded rotors, pads lines and fluid. My brakes are near indestructable... when I get the stillen brake cooling kit I I'm sure endurance will improve.

Car and driver has always belittled nissan products. Its strange because they are the first to hype them up and the first to nitpick on things that 75% of the owners can't find. The only issue on the Z that holds true is starvation and limp mode. And I never had starvation issues... there's just been enough of our brothers that have exposed the problem to acknowledge it.

m4a1mustang · 07-19-2012, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by evoAXE

Did you replace a 370Z with a Mustang? Why? Do you agree with this article?

This topic has been beaten like a dead horse on this forum. Do a search and you can find gobs of discussion on the matter.

IBTL.

evoAXE · 07-19-2012, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

This topic has been beaten like a dead horse on this forum. Do a search and you can find gobs of discussion on the matter.

IBTL.

I can't seem to find any threads on it...do you have a link?

evoAXE · 07-19-2012, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600

I am going out to buy an EVO now!

jpritche · 07-19-2012, 10:54 PM

IBSGTTL

In before steve gets this thread locked.

m4a1mustang · 07-19-2012, 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpritche

IBSGTTL

In before steve gets this thread locked.

Pfft... not worth my time!

07-19-2012, 10:00 PM	#3 (permalink)
dmhenderson A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Maryland Posts: 5,930 Drives: AWD TT 370z Rep Power: 26	Yeah I had that mag and kinda hand-waved it. The reviewer sounds biased tbh. Also if there's a lotus-anything for under 40k i flat out guarantee it handles better than any of those cars. __________________

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dmhenderson A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Maryland Posts: 5,930 Drives: AWD TT 370z Rep Power: 26	"Nissan 370z is less fun to drive than a mazda miata and/or a mini cooper" Gonna go ahead and tune out now. __________________

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UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14858	This article completely blew me away when it came out. I have driven the mustang 5.0, Evo and own a Z. While the Evo and Z for me are a toss up... I find the mustang to be capable but not as well poised as the Z. Maybe its driving style, tastes or whatever. I felt the Z to have the best median of power handling and fun to drive factor... as far as brake fade... I put my brakes through hell on the street and off road. I never felt any fade unless I spend an unusually long time beating them up... Now I have upgraded rotors, pads lines and fluid. My brakes are near indestructable... when I get the stillen brake cooling kit I I'm sure endurance will improve. Car and driver has always belittled nissan products. Its strange because they are the first to hype them up and the first to nitpick on things that 75% of the owners can't find. The only issue on the Z that holds true is starvation and limp mode. And I never had starvation issues... there's just been enough of our brothers that have exposed the problem to acknowledge it.

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jpritche A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Cartersville, Ga Age: 32 Posts: 2,570 Drives: '15 RR, '14 IS250 Rep Power: 31	IBSGTTL In before steve gets this thread locked.