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Nismo 370z vs. Standard 370z - Same aftermarket parts, any performance difference?

I've always wondered if 2 people purchased the follow cars: A) Nismo 370z - 350 hp B) Sports 370z - 332 hp and each of them starts modifying their cars

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Old 07-19-2012, 03:50 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Nismo 370z vs. Standard 370z - Same aftermarket parts, any performance difference?

I've always wondered if 2 people purchased the follow cars:

A) Nismo 370z - 350 hp
B) Sports 370z - 332 hp

and each of them starts modifying their cars with the following upgrades...

A) Nismo 370z
-Stillen G3 Intake
-FI Exhaust (Replace the OEM Nismo Exhaust)
-HFC (Replace the OEM H style downpipe)

B) Sports 370z
Stillen G3 Intake
-FI Exhaust
-HFC

Aren't these 2 cars essentially the same car in regards to performance since Nismo 370z harvest the extra 18 HP is from it's Exhaust system and a minor tuning?

Or will the Nismo still better performance because it was factory tuned differently?

Correct me if I'm wrong but is this case like a STi vs a regular Subaru WRX and a Subaru STi, or a regular Civic vs a Civic Si it is not the same car in performance unless you either buy a different engine block or a different turbo, etc.

Keep in mind, I'm not talking about Suspensions or the Aero kit as there are a few things that don't neccessary focus on the Engine performance which the Nismo has over the Sports 370z that I'm aware of.
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Old 07-19-2012, 04:02 PM   #2 (permalink)
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if you want to mod.. go with the base model.
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Cats on both cars are the same btw. The F.I. will replace both the axle back and H pipe on nismo and y pipe on base.
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Does the Nismo have a more aggressive tune? Anyone know? I've always wondered that.
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i thought it needed the extra 18 crank hp for the added weight...
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i thought it needed the extra 18 crank hp for the added weight...
I think you need an extra crank or two.
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There is the somewhat functional body kit... Getting a Nismo body kit or Amuse Kit will put you back a few grand. But if I'm being biased the stock + sports is the way to go if you're going to mod. It's a better value. The price difference between the cars in mods for the base + sports will yield a better performance car than the Nismo.

I only got the Nismo because I like the body style. I don't plan on ever changing it.
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Search seeing this was an on going discussion.

get a nismo though!
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i thought it needed the extra 18 crank hp for the added weight...
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There is the somewhat functional body kit... Getting a Nismo body kit or Amuse Kit will put you back a few grand. But if I'm being biased the stock + sports is the way to go if you're going to mod. It's a better value. The price difference between the cars in mods for the base + sports will yield a better performance car than the Nismo.

I only got the Nismo because I like the body style. I don't plan on ever changing it.
I totally dig the Nismo body style. In my dreams is to own a fully loaded Nismo 370z like the one they offer in Japan, and then mod it. I know I'll get a lot of flame for saying this because of all these extra accessories which are seen as dead weight + not the most efficient way to spend my thousands of $$$.

I do also wonder if it's tuned more aggressively and if both cars with the same bolt on, the Nismo still have better performance due to the factory tune.

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thought the base was churning better performance data than the nismo.
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I think you need an extra crank or two.
yah, definetly needs another cylinder to keep up with the base.
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and if both cars with the same bolt on, the Nismo still have better performance due to the factory tune.
I don't see this as really relevant, because even if it is true, why wouldn't you get a tune after installing parts? I'm only waiting to get my tune because I still need to get test pipes and CAI to make it worth my time and money to do so.

Even if you just want the Nismo body style you can get an exact replica body kit(minus the wing) and wheels for cheaper than it costs to buy(Or so I've read on here). You would have to get the wing from Nissan or someone who owns a nismo and is willing to give it up.

But if you consider all the time to install the parts, or the money you will pay someone to do it for you, you might just soak up the difference and buy a Nismo.

So in the end you are buying how the car looks, and a little plaque between the seats, since basically everyone mods their car.

Having said all that, I paid 38,5 for mine and don't regret it for one second, and if I had a second go at the decision, I would make the same decision.
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