Read what the BRZ / FR-S Toyobaru said about our car.

Footloose301 · 07-11-2012, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by iceman21_23

im sorry i stopped when he said that he was considering a GT-R and he ended up in a brz...

I stopped when he was emphasized redline with his hand gestures.

Ubetit · 07-11-2012, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by 11Thumper

Enough said...

Why I Don't Love My Subaru BRZ...Yet. - YouTube

That could have been a 1 minute video. The dude likes to repeat himself 19 times.

Ubetit · 07-11-2012, 08:14 AM

I think the BRZ/FRS is a neat car. Coming from an S2000 i heard all the same complaints about about the redline and lack of torque. It was a hoot to drive. It wasn't that fast in a straight line but i'm not concerned about straight line racing on public roads.

One of these days, i'm going to find a BRZ I can test drive. Maybe i'll replace my DD 2006 Civic Si.

DCNISMO · 07-11-2012, 09:20 AM

I heard that dealers were jacking up the prices on them both....by 4 to 5 k, which makes it NOT such a great deal. I remember the same dealer crap with the S2000 in 1998/1999 and Mustangs 2005 when they first came out.....Same with Miata's as well...

NitrousZ34 · 07-11-2012, 09:47 AM

If BRZ/FR-S owners want to compare their cars to a Z, then why dont they take it down a couple decades and compare them to a NA 300zx or turbo 280z. Thats a better comparison rather than putting up their cars against the fastest Z car to date

UNKNOWN_370 · 07-11-2012, 10:10 AM

Anyone who pays 5k over the FRS/BRZ sticker is an idiot. I haven't test driven but have inspected the standing car thoroughly. Imho, HYPE is what gave the FRS BRZ its 25 & 26k sticker. Both these cars don't look like they are worth more than 23k. FR or not.
I know a gencoupe weighs more but, 27k can get you a 2.0 r spec that weighs 3300lbs gives you 275hp turbo engine that's modifiable on the cheap to 450hp, 4 caliper brembo brakes all around, Torsen limited slip and pretty good handling and .93g of grip on
the skidpad.

I don't think I can justify buying a toyobaru new based on this. Maybe as a commuter? I appreciate all this car can offer as an experience but right now. We have some pretty good choices in sports cars. Its not 2001 anymore. We don't have to be overcharged. As a sports car for 27k. A mustang v6 or 2.0 gen has a competive edge in overall value. If you put a 5k upmarket on a FRS? You might as well buy a Z or mustang GT base.

EazyD · 07-11-2012, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by NitrousZ34

If BRZ/FR-S owners want to compare their cars to a Z, then why dont they take it down a couple decades and compare them to a NA 300zx or turbo 280z. Thats a better comparison rather than putting up their cars against the fastest Z car to date

why.... isn't that like us comparing our Z to a 1980s mustang

Sibze · 07-11-2012, 10:23 AM

Best thread ever. Lets beat down on a car that is not in the same class. Next thread: "Read what the Ferrari 458 Italia said about our car." They called the 370z slow

Cmike2780 · 07-11-2012, 10:41 AM

Mt Tam I am · 07-11-2012, 10:44 AM

The Z will be out sold by the BRZ/FRS. But the real test will be do they outsell their closer competitor the Miata?

Cmike2780 · 07-11-2012, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Mt Tam I am

The Z will be out sold by the BRZ/FRS. But the real test will be do they outsell their closer competitor the Miata?

meh...Civics have been outselling the Z since forever also. Doesn't matter.

Sibze · 07-11-2012, 10:51 AM

A cheaper car will most likely outsell and more expensive car… Doesn't mean either cars are better or worse. When a car is cheaper there is a bigger market.

UNKNOWN_370 · 07-11-2012, 11:05 AM

Watch the BRZ go to its 147mph top speed.

2013 Subaru BRZ top speed run - YouTube

Watch the 370 hit top speed

Nissan 370z Top Speed - YouTube

Its true... its not even worth comparing the two.

Mt Tam I am · 07-11-2012, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780

meh...Civics have been outselling the Z since forever also. Doesn't matter.

Sure. The Z is outsold by lots of things. The Z is the better car. That is why is costs more.

If the test was who sells the most the Z loses. That is all it loses. It wins on power, interior, (I think) everything.

Ubetit · 07-11-2012, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Watch the BRZ go to its 147mph top speed.

Watch the 370 hit top speed

Nissan 370z Top Speed - YouTube

Its true... its not even worth comparing the two.

That's a video game with the 370z

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07-11-2012, 08:14 AM	#48 (permalink)
Ubetit Track Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Ohio Posts: 527 Drives: the women lazy Rep Power: 14	I think the BRZ/FRS is a neat car. Coming from an S2000 i heard all the same complaints about about the redline and lack of torque. It was a hoot to drive. It wasn't that fast in a straight line but i'm not concerned about straight line racing on public roads. One of these days, i'm going to find a BRZ I can test drive. Maybe i'll replace my DD 2006 Civic Si.

07-11-2012, 09:20 AM	#49 (permalink)
DCNISMO Track Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: washington dc Posts: 995 Drives: Nismo Z Rep Power: 179	I heard that dealers were jacking up the prices on them both....by 4 to 5 k, which makes it NOT such a great deal. I remember the same dealer crap with the S2000 in 1998/1999 and Mustangs 2005 when they first came out.....Same with Miata's as well...

07-11-2012, 09:47 AM	#50 (permalink)
NitrousZ34 Banned Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Canoga Posts: 505 Drives: Myself crazy Rep Power: 0	If BRZ/FR-S owners want to compare their cars to a Z, then why dont they take it down a couple decades and compare them to a NA 300zx or turbo 280z. Thats a better comparison rather than putting up their cars against the fastest Z car to date

07-11-2012, 10:10 AM	#51 (permalink)
UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14858	Anyone who pays 5k over the FRS/BRZ sticker is an idiot. I haven't test driven but have inspected the standing car thoroughly. Imho, HYPE is what gave the FRS BRZ its 25 & 26k sticker. Both these cars don't look like they are worth more than 23k. FR or not. I know a gencoupe weighs more but, 27k can get you a 2.0 r spec that weighs 3300lbs gives you 275hp turbo engine that's modifiable on the cheap to 450hp, 4 caliper brembo brakes all around, Torsen limited slip and pretty good handling and .93g of grip on the skidpad. I don't think I can justify buying a toyobaru new based on this. Maybe as a commuter? I appreciate all this car can offer as an experience but right now. We have some pretty good choices in sports cars. Its not 2001 anymore. We don't have to be overcharged. As a sports car for 27k. A mustang v6 or 2.0 gen has a competive edge in overall value. If you put a 5k upmarket on a FRS? You might as well buy a Z or mustang GT base.

07-11-2012, 10:23 AM	#53 (permalink)
Sibze A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 16,202 Drives: In your way Rep Power: 63	Best thread ever. Lets beat down on a car that is not in the same class. Next thread: "Read what the Ferrari 458 Italia said about our car." They called the 370z slow

07-11-2012, 10:51 AM	#57 (permalink)
Sibze A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 16,202 Drives: In your way Rep Power: 63	A cheaper car will most likely outsell and more expensive car… Doesn't mean either cars are better or worse. When a car is cheaper there is a bigger market.

07-11-2012, 11:05 AM	#58 (permalink)
UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14858	Watch the BRZ go to its 147mph top speed. 2013 Subaru BRZ top speed run - YouTube Watch the 370 hit top speed Nissan 370z Top Speed - YouTube Its true... its not even worth comparing the two.