Fr-s/ Brz. > 370z?

mpusch · 07-02-2012, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

aka slow for a sporty family car in 2012.

Well yeah, I'll agree with that, but it isn't Prius slow.

kenchan · 07-02-2012, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

While the FRS isn't exactly fast or grunt-y compared to the Z, it does wake up quite a bit after 5000 rpm.

vtec kicking in

kenchan · 07-02-2012, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by mpusch

Well yeah, I'll agree with that, but it isn't Prius slow.

true. i think it's a livable quickness. i need to test drive one to really understand what the hype is. im all for small/light weight cars. i might like it.

shadoquad · 07-02-2012, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

true. i think it's a livable quickness. i need to test drive one to really understand what the hype is. im all for small/light weight cars. i might like it.

I agree, you should get out and test just to see what it's all about. It's a fun little car.

speedfreek · 07-02-2012, 02:19 PM

It's probably going to win the 24 hrs of Le Mans next year in all likelihood

Cmike2780 · 07-02-2012, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by NYBladeZ

I think the pros for the FR-S/BRZ outweigh the cons and when compared from a tuner's aspect the FR-S is the way to go. Need I remind the long time Z guys that we had to wait a very very very very long time for the Z after market to grow. Even now the aftermarket for the z34 is no where near as big as it was for the z33 and other previous Z cars and its been 3.5 years. Greddy already has a reputable TT kit out and the car hasn't been on US soil for a 6 months. The FR-S has is a tuner's wet dream, cheap starting platform (after the dealers stop pushing ridiculous ADM's) and massive competition amongst aftermarket vendors. The FR-S aftermarket is going to dwarf the Z very quickly, social media is already full of pics and concepts that major aftermarket companies are making.

Performance wise, sure the Z will dominate for now but think about how expensive it is to really build the Z34, you're looking at close to 3/4 the cost of the car for a well built and tuned TT kit, an S/C kit will run you at least 10g's. Moreover, while dyno #'s are nice making 500whp+ is useless on a road course, to date I don't think I've seen any TT member even attempt to run it all out at a road course. So you have potentially extreme HP #'s that are good for the drag strip which is not the Z's forte but create a largely uncontrollable monster at the track.

I think the biggest issue with the FR-S is that it comes off as too young but I could probably get around that knowing that the aftermarket for the FR-S is huge. Moreover, call it a gut feeling but given the proper driver a FR-S properly tuned and turboed is going to embarrass a lot of Z guys at the track.

I think it's a cool car, but I doubt a few bolt-ons is going to make this exceptionally fast, even on a track to 'embarass' Z drivers. You can stuff anything under the hood of this thing and claim it to a beast, but you can do that to pretty much any car if you have the cash. Heck, they already stuffed the LF-A engine under there...

....and to be fair, we haven't seen any turbo'd FR-S on the streets, let alone on the track to really know how it handles FI. You don't see too many TT'd 370z's around a track because for the most part, a few bolt on's and reducing weight is all you really need. There's even a few racing teams on here that follow that concept. I really like the FR-S/BRZ, I just think there's just too much hype about this car. I see too many similarities with the RX-8 (another car that could have used FI).

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Originally Posted by RyanWest

Look at the compression ratio on the FR-S, it wont handle boost well.

That's what I was thinking.

kenchan · 07-02-2012, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

I agree, you should get out and test just to see what it's all about. It's a fun little car.

i definitely will... once the dealer has some in the lot and things settle down.

Mt Tam I am · 07-02-2012, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by speedfreek

It's probably going to win the 24 hrs of Le Mans next year in all likelihood

That's Mazda territory. I hope they do.

kenchan · 07-02-2012, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mt Tam I am

That's Mazda territory. I hope they do.

why is mazda still in business even after 5yrs of ugly faces?

Fabio88 · 07-02-2012, 02:35 PM

lol whats really funny is almost 2010+ family sedans go 0-60 in 7 secs. like the ford taurs that TT goes less then 7 secs

Pauly · 07-02-2012, 02:35 PM

people keep saying "great car if you're on a budget" 25k aint no budget. almost the price of my car, which is way better. i dont get how im the only one who thinks this car is overpriced. o well who cares. im not buying one.

shadoquad · 07-02-2012, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Pauly

people keep saying "great car if you're on a budget" 25k aint no budget. almost the price of my car, which is way better. i dont get how im the only one who thinks this car is overpriced. o well who cares. im not buying one.

Yeah, I don't think the car is worth the money, either, but it's not bad.

kenchan · 07-02-2012, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Fabio88

lol whats really funny is almost 2010+ family sedans go 0-60 in 7 secs. like the ford taurs that TT goes less then 7 secs

my point exactly! why have a sporty looking car that gets eaten up by a family sedan...

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Originally Posted by Pauly

people keep saying "great car if you're on a budget" 25k aint no budget. almost the price of my car, which is way better. i dont get how im the only one who thinks this car is overpriced. o well who cares. im not buying one.

25k is a budget considering a 30k 370Z can only carry 2 people and not very practical in any way. with 25K you can do your racing and shopping...sort of.

Cmike2780 · 07-02-2012, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

why is mazda still in business even after 5yrs of ugly faces?

I kinda like this little guy.

Pauly · 07-02-2012, 02:40 PM

lol my maxima would make that scion thing look like a honda fit LOL
family cars rule

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Fabio88 Banned Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: sdasda Posts: 235 Drives: asdfasdf Rep Power: 0	lol whats really funny is almost 2010+ family sedans go 0-60 in 7 secs. like the ford taurs that TT goes less then 7 secs