370Z vs GTR whats the pros

boomee · 06-26-2012, 12:52 AM

Hey I have seen and talked to a couple of people that have decided to ''downgrade'' from gtrs to 370 Zs whats the benifit of that? From what I gather is just that the Z comes in manual. What are the other reasons I have never driven GTR but like other people who arnt in the know everyone talks about that car as a world beating car so why the change?

PS Im new on this forum if I need to have this in another thread please let me know.

7419sundat · 06-26-2012, 01:19 AM

money!

boomee · 06-26-2012, 01:21 AM

I think that is obvious

Jordo! · 06-26-2012, 01:25 AM

Honestly, only the associated costs (e.g., price of payments, insurance, upkeep).

In every other regard except cost (bang for the buck?) the GT-R blows away the Z.

I can't imagine anyone could miss working a clutch pedal so much that they'd ditch the GT-R for a far lesser car.

boomee · 06-26-2012, 01:33 AM

I think there are several people even in these forums that have dont the switch

dP3NGU1N · 06-26-2012, 01:42 AM

It seems as though the gtr is a hugely competition focused car. Fastest by any means necessary even if it means it's not as fun to drive. Now I've never driven it nor have I test driven the gtr, however, According to at least one person who's recently made the switch I believe he said the z was a "drivers" car or something. I'm going to have to double check that. Perhaps you would best be served by asking him. One of his reason was the standard transmission and being more connected to the car.

EndyKwon · 06-26-2012, 01:42 AM

I heard that upkeep in the GT-R wasn't too bad compared to a Porsche. As far as insurance goes, its pretty high up there.

boomee · 06-26-2012, 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dP3NGU1N

It seems as though the gtr is a hugely competition focused car. Fastest by any means necessary even if it means it's not as fun to drive. Now I've never driven it nor have I test driven the gtr, however, According to at least one person who's recently made the switch I believe he said the z was a "drivers" car or something. I'm going to have to double check that. Perhaps you would best be served by asking him. One of his reason was the standard transmission and being more connected to the car.

Whats the guys name ? screenname

280z/300zx · 06-26-2012, 01:53 AM

I know 3 different guys in our local Z club that went from a GTR to the 370z. All of them said it was because of the manual transmission. I mean they all raved about the GTR and how good it was. Didn't really mind that the car did a lot of the "driving" for them. It was all about the fact that they couldn't actually drive a manual. Having driven a DCT/PDK Lambo, Audi R8 V10, and Porsche 997 turbo I would have to agree. In a racing situation on a track the DCT/PDK style transmissions are phenomenal and I would chose one in a heart beat. However, for a car that is a daily driver and sees the track on occasion (non-competitive and just for fun) a manual transmission is what I want. The GTR is a beast but on the street most often than not you would leave it in automatic mode which takes away from part of the driving experience.

The other reasoning I've heard from other people who went from faster cars in general to a 370z is that having something with 500+ hp for a daily driver is almost pointless. You almost can't get aggresive with this type of car as you are quickly exceeding any type of speed limit or law. That's not to say the 370z doesn't quickly get you passed the limit but compared to a GTR or Vette Z06 it does take a bit longer. It's the same reason people praise the miata and the new FR-S/BRZ. The limits of the car are so low that you can actually string them out on the street and still be relatively safe doing it.

Personally I think the GTR might have more sales or retain more drivers if they had a manual option. But because numbers in magazines sell cars they stick with the DCT. It's the one reason I won't move to a GTR like I was planning to when they first came out.

dP3NGU1N · 06-26-2012, 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MistaVanquish

All -

I just recently sold my 2012 GT-R Black Edition (she'll be missed) and I will be getting a Nismo 370z. I'm sure you're wondering why I'm downgrading from a GT-R, but let's just say that I prefer to do all of the 'driving' myself. Nuff said.
y

There ya go. So I was wrong about exactly what he said but the spirit of the statement is there.

VAUROS · 06-26-2012, 02:23 AM

Yea, I just transferred the lease on my GT-R three days ago. When I first bought the GT-R, I was SUPER excited about owning my first super car. I had read all about the GT-R driving like a video game and being too perfect in a lot of aspects. I never thought that these facts would actually take away from the overall experience. If Nissan offered a true manual tranny I think this would add that missing piece; the true connection between driver and car.

As stated many times, if all you are concerned with is being the fastest around the track and knowing you can decimate most cars on the road, then the GT-R is for you. However, if you actually like to 'earn' your driving performance and be fully connected to the car and road, then you need a manual and a car that isn't all but perfect.

boomee · 06-26-2012, 02:43 AM

THanks Mr vanquish I too Love manual even my forster XT has a manual.

forza370z · 06-26-2012, 02:53 AM

Just to add another reason, I actually think the 370z is better looking than the GTR. The GTR is not bad looking, but too bulky and lack of a sports car look. It's more like a luxury sport coupe like the g coupe. Just my 2 cents...

LakeShow · 06-26-2012, 03:01 AM

Two different animals, two different price ranges! Cars don't really compare other than they are Nissan's and two door sports cars.

boomee · 06-26-2012, 03:23 AM

but there are alot of people that can afford both i guess because some people are making a switch some up some down it seams to be all in what your looking for

06-26-2012, 12:52 AM	#1 (permalink)
boomee Base Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Northern VA Posts: 29 Drives: sleepy forester Xt Rep Power: 13	370Z vs GTR whats the pros Hey I have seen and talked to a couple of people that have decided to ''downgrade'' from gtrs to 370 Zs whats the benifit of that? From what I gather is just that the Z comes in manual. What are the other reasons I have never driven GTR but like other people who arnt in the know everyone talks about that car as a world beating car so why the change? PS Im new on this forum if I need to have this in another thread please let me know. Last edited by boomee; 06-26-2012 at 12:54 AM.

06-26-2012, 01:25 AM	#4 (permalink)
Jordo! A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: nirvana Posts: 6,394 Drives: 2023 NATM Rep Power: 418	Honestly, only the associated costs (e.g., price of payments, insurance, upkeep). In every other regard except cost (bang for the buck?) the GT-R blows away the Z. I can't imagine anyone could miss working a clutch pedal so much that they'd ditch the GT-R for a far lesser car. __________________ Enjoy it. Destroy it.

06-26-2012, 03:01 AM	#14 (permalink)
LakeShow A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: L.I., NY Posts: 5,307 Drives: Everything Rep Power: 25	Two different animals, two different price ranges! Cars don't really compare other than they are Nissan's and two door sports cars. __________________ \|2013 Audi S4\|Ibis White/Black\|S-Tronic P+\| \|2013 370z\|PearlWhite/Persimmon\|Touring/Sport/Nav\|F.I. CBE 18" CF\| \|Sold\|2011 370z\|Gun Metallic\|Touring/Sport/Nav\|

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06-26-2012, 01:19 AM	#2 (permalink)
7419sundat Base Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: colorado Posts: 145 Drives: 09 370z Gtm TT 2 Rep Power: 14	money!

06-26-2012, 01:21 AM	#3 (permalink)
boomee Base Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Northern VA Posts: 29 Drives: sleepy forester Xt Rep Power: 13	I think that is obvious

06-26-2012, 01:33 AM	#5 (permalink)
boomee Base Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Northern VA Posts: 29 Drives: sleepy forester Xt Rep Power: 13	I think there are several people even in these forums that have dont the switch

06-26-2012, 01:42 AM	#6 (permalink)
dP3NGU1N A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Irvine Posts: 1,682 Drives: 13 PW sport 6mt Rep Power: 18	It seems as though the gtr is a hugely competition focused car. Fastest by any means necessary even if it means it's not as fun to drive. Now I've never driven it nor have I test driven the gtr, however, According to at least one person who's recently made the switch I believe he said the z was a "drivers" car or something. I'm going to have to double check that. Perhaps you would best be served by asking him. One of his reason was the standard transmission and being more connected to the car.

06-26-2012, 01:42 AM	#7 (permalink)
EndyKwon Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 427 Drives: '11 BSilver Base 7AT Rep Power: 13	I heard that upkeep in the GT-R wasn't too bad compared to a Porsche. As far as insurance goes, its pretty high up there.

06-26-2012, 01:53 AM	#9 (permalink)
280z/300zx Track Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Nevada Posts: 689 Drives: 280z, 300zx, Vette Rep Power: 272	I know 3 different guys in our local Z club that went from a GTR to the 370z. All of them said it was because of the manual transmission. I mean they all raved about the GTR and how good it was. Didn't really mind that the car did a lot of the "driving" for them. It was all about the fact that they couldn't actually drive a manual. Having driven a DCT/PDK Lambo, Audi R8 V10, and Porsche 997 turbo I would have to agree. In a racing situation on a track the DCT/PDK style transmissions are phenomenal and I would chose one in a heart beat. However, for a car that is a daily driver and sees the track on occasion (non-competitive and just for fun) a manual transmission is what I want. The GTR is a beast but on the street most often than not you would leave it in automatic mode which takes away from part of the driving experience. The other reasoning I've heard from other people who went from faster cars in general to a 370z is that having something with 500+ hp for a daily driver is almost pointless. You almost can't get aggresive with this type of car as you are quickly exceeding any type of speed limit or law. That's not to say the 370z doesn't quickly get you passed the limit but compared to a GTR or Vette Z06 it does take a bit longer. It's the same reason people praise the miata and the new FR-S/BRZ. The limits of the car are so low that you can actually string them out on the street and still be relatively safe doing it. Personally I think the GTR might have more sales or retain more drivers if they had a manual option. But because numbers in magazines sell cars they stick with the DCT. It's the one reason I won't move to a GTR like I was planning to when they first came out.

06-26-2012, 02:23 AM	#11 (permalink)
VAUROS Base Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: USA-MD Posts: 36 Drives: 2011 Nissan Maxima Rep Power: 13	Yea, I just transferred the lease on my GT-R three days ago. When I first bought the GT-R, I was SUPER excited about owning my first super car. I had read all about the GT-R driving like a video game and being too perfect in a lot of aspects. I never thought that these facts would actually take away from the overall experience. If Nissan offered a true manual tranny I think this would add that missing piece; the true connection between driver and car. As stated many times, if all you are concerned with is being the fastest around the track and knowing you can decimate most cars on the road, then the GT-R is for you. However, if you actually like to 'earn' your driving performance and be fully connected to the car and road, then you need a manual and a car that isn't all but perfect.

06-26-2012, 02:43 AM	#12 (permalink)
boomee Base Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Northern VA Posts: 29 Drives: sleepy forester Xt Rep Power: 13	THanks Mr vanquish I too Love manual even my forster XT has a manual.

06-26-2012, 02:53 AM	#13 (permalink)
forza370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: 403 Forbidden Posts: 2,512 Drives: 2009 NISMO 370Z Rep Power: 19	Just to add another reason, I actually think the 370z is better looking than the GTR. The GTR is not bad looking, but too bulky and lack of a sports car look. It's more like a luxury sport coupe like the g coupe. Just my 2 cents...

06-26-2012, 03:23 AM	#15 (permalink)
boomee Base Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Northern VA Posts: 29 Drives: sleepy forester Xt Rep Power: 13	but there are alot of people that can afford both i guess because some people are making a switch some up some down it seams to be all in what your looking for