My whiny little b**ch thread.

[Red__Zed]

Originally Posted by IDZRVIT

I'd like to read more on that. Can you provide a link?

Nope. Nissan is not in the business of putting themselves out of business.

I'm sure there are easier ways to get a hold of this information than what I did, but I can only speak to the "buy a car that has the trans blow up before you even take delivery that proceeds to grenade several diffs while the paint peels off, then make good friends with the guys at NNA" method.

You might try to get a hold of the NNA guys yourself if you have questions. In my experience, most of them are pretty happy to talk honestly about issues (off the record, off course).

My experiences with NNA:
My 370z saga

[red6spd]

That statement means nothing then. All 3500 where all for the same reason? Why are they being replace? Complete failure? Just to noisy and clunky?

[KERMIT]

Originally Posted by Red__Zed

Nope. Nissan is not in the business of putting themselves out of business.

I'm sure there are easier ways to get a hold of this information than what I did, but I can only speak to the "buy a car that has the trans blow up before you even take delivery that proceeds to grenade several diffs while the paint peels off, then make good friends with the guys at NNA" method.

You might try to get a hold of the NNA guys yourself if you have questions. In my experience, most of them are pretty happy to talk honestly about issues (off the record, off course).

My experiences with NNA:
My 370z saga

I heard all Nissan transmissions blow up and it is 100% fact. Also I cannot provide any proof. Just trust me, I'm on the Internet, totally legit.

Actually, what you say may be true. But it would be difficult for anyone to take it as fact without further evidence. Hence "off the record"

[ayrton88]

Originally Posted by KERMIT

F1 transmissions are manual (single clutch, dual layshaft) design with electromechanical actuation. They are nothing like the torque converter, planetary design in the AT.

Yeah, it cracks me up when people compare a paddle shift automatic with a torque converter, like the Z, with an F1 car. I still like a real manual gearbox....even with it's flaws. I drive everyday in Chicago traffic and still would never consider an automatic. Spend a lot of time in neutral though.

[Red__Zed]

Originally Posted by KERMIT

I heard all Nissan transmissions blow up and it is 100% fact. Also I cannot provide any proof. Just trust me, I'm on the Internet, totally legit.

Actually, what you say may be true. But it would be difficult for anyone to take it as fact without further evidence. Hence "off the record"

I don't have any issue with people not taking what I say at face value...it is well-understood as relatively unsupported. NNA is not difficult to get in touch with yourself if you are curious, and this was much-discussed in my documentation of my issues here:
My 370z saga

red, the issues are synchro issues. If calling NNA takes too much time for you, there is plenty of documentation of the issues here, on this forum.

[mdxj]

I bought my 09 used, it had 11k miles and on it when I picked it up and I am now pushing 20k with zero issues with the tranny. Sorry to hear about the issues but after owning an auto 350 and driving a 7AT 370, I was sold on the manual even with its shortcomings. If Nissan used a dual clutch set up like Porsche's PDK then I would have probably gone that route since PDK is more in line with a manual while the 7AT is just an auto with paddle shifters. I drove a Cayman S with both and the PDK is a lot of fun.

Not to throw any fire on the subject, but do any of the 5.0 guys know what is going on with the TSB for the GT's manual? Last I heard it was just people complaining about it being a little stiff but of course it turned into a big deal.

[Red__Zed]

Originally Posted by mdxj

Not to throw any fire on the subject, but do any of the 5.0 guys know what is going on with the TSB for the GT's manual? Last I heard it was just people complaining about it being a little stiff but of course it turned into a big deal.

To my knowledge, about the same as the 370Z issue. A combination of a crappy early run, combined with some people that can't drive.

Based on what I've heard (no experience with Ford, as my car has been fine), Ford as done a far inferior job of stepping up to the plate and handling issues as they come up. Nissan's 'no questions asked' policy probably costs them a little more in the short run, but it did a lot to avoid sullying the brand in my experience. From what I've seen, Ford has really dropped the ball on handling the issues in the early run.

[mdxj]

Originally Posted by Red__Zed

To my knowledge, about the same as the 370Z issue. A combination of a crappy early run, combined with some people that can't drive.

Based on what I've heard (no experience with Ford, as my car has been fine), Ford as done a far inferior job of stepping up to the plate and handling issues as they come up. Nissan's 'no questions asked' policy probably costs them a little more in the short run, but it did a lot to avoid sullying the brand in my experience. From what I've seen, Ford has really dropped the ball on handling the issues in the early run.

That sucks to hear, it seems like that is the only real issue with the 5.0, besides the live axle

[red6spd]

Originally Posted by Red__Zed

To my knowledge, about the same as the 370Z issue. A combination of a crappy early run, combined with some people that can't drive. Based on what I've heard (no experience with Ford, as my car has been fine), Ford as done a far inferior job of stepping up to the plate and handling issues as they come up. Nissan's 'no questions asked' policy probably costs them a little more in the short run, but it did a lot to avoid sullying the brand in my experience. From what I've seen, Ford has really dropped the ball on handling the issues in the early run.

So you do agree with me that some of the problems are from lack of driving skills.

[Red__Zed]

Originally Posted by red6spd

So you do agree with me that some of the problems are from lack of driving skills.

sure, in some cases.

whether it is a significant proportion or not is up for debate though.

[cossie1600]

My transmission was never good from the moment I got her at 27 miles. I have changed the fluid, it helped for 3000 miles. Now I am back to a clunky transmission again. I have an appointment with Nissan on Tuesday. I fully expect the ******** to send me home telling me nothing is wrong. I just wanted to document it so I can actually send the car into the shop for a month to get all the problems fixed.

[red6spd]

Define Clunky? Everyone keeps crying about clunky. Yea its clunky and it does sound like poop sometimes but is it making you shift bad? Mine clunks but I have come to live with it. My Altima and Spec-V where the same way but it never made the shift less precise.

[UNKNOWN_370]

Originally Posted by mdxj

I bought my 09 used, it had 11k miles and on it when I picked it up and I am now pushing 20k with zero issues with the tranny. Sorry to hear about the issues but after owning an auto 350 and driving a 7AT 370, I was sold on the manual even with its shortcomings. If Nissan used a dual clutch set up like Porsche's PDK then I would have probably gone that route since PDK is more in line with a manual while the 7AT is just an auto with paddle shifters. I drove a Cayman S with both and the PDK is a lot of fun.

Not to throw any fire on the subject, but do any of the 5.0 guys know what is going on with the TSB for the GT's manual? Last I heard it was just people complaining about it being a little stiff but of course it turned into a big deal.

I would really love to hear your comparo between the 7at and pdk??? What makes it more fun? Cuz I drove the pdk, 135I with dct and EVO MR.

The only advantage I see with those trannies is they have a 550-700hp modification capacity depending on brand, while our AT's only can handle 400rwhp, before they need reinforcement.

Did you have a magic clutch in your DCT that made it more fun?

So elaborate... I really need to hear this one.

[UNKNOWN_370]

Who's arguing??? Aight anyway... you run with that story.

[AlanManouk]

i feel for you man. Mine can be loud and annoying at times especially 2nd gear