My whiny little b**ch thread.

[KERMIT]

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

You don't need to back yourself up! Lol, I keep having to. IMO the AT on the 370 is more superior to the MT. And if manual was so great, all supervises and F1 cars and such would still have them

(Not trying to really bash manual, I do miss it sometimes)

F1 transmissions are manual (single clutch, dual layshaft) design with electromechanical actuation. They are nothing like the torque converter, planetary design in the AT.

[ayrton88]

Originally Posted by KERMIT

F1 transmissions are manual (single clutch, dual layshaft) design with electromechanical actuation. They are nothing like the torque converter, planetary design in the AT.

Yeah, it cracks me up when people compare a paddle shift automatic with a torque converter, like the Z, with an F1 car. I still like a real manual gearbox....even with it's flaws. I drive everyday in Chicago traffic and still would never consider an automatic. Spend a lot of time in neutral though.

[mdxj]

I bought my 09 used, it had 11k miles and on it when I picked it up and I am now pushing 20k with zero issues with the tranny. Sorry to hear about the issues but after owning an auto 350 and driving a 7AT 370, I was sold on the manual even with its shortcomings. If Nissan used a dual clutch set up like Porsche's PDK then I would have probably gone that route since PDK is more in line with a manual while the 7AT is just an auto with paddle shifters. I drove a Cayman S with both and the PDK is a lot of fun.

Not to throw any fire on the subject, but do any of the 5.0 guys know what is going on with the TSB for the GT's manual? Last I heard it was just people complaining about it being a little stiff but of course it turned into a big deal.

[Red__Zed]

Originally Posted by mdxj

Not to throw any fire on the subject, but do any of the 5.0 guys know what is going on with the TSB for the GT's manual? Last I heard it was just people complaining about it being a little stiff but of course it turned into a big deal.

To my knowledge, about the same as the 370Z issue. A combination of a crappy early run, combined with some people that can't drive.

Based on what I've heard (no experience with Ford, as my car has been fine), Ford as done a far inferior job of stepping up to the plate and handling issues as they come up. Nissan's 'no questions asked' policy probably costs them a little more in the short run, but it did a lot to avoid sullying the brand in my experience. From what I've seen, Ford has really dropped the ball on handling the issues in the early run.

[mdxj]

Originally Posted by Red__Zed

To my knowledge, about the same as the 370Z issue. A combination of a crappy early run, combined with some people that can't drive.

Based on what I've heard (no experience with Ford, as my car has been fine), Ford as done a far inferior job of stepping up to the plate and handling issues as they come up. Nissan's 'no questions asked' policy probably costs them a little more in the short run, but it did a lot to avoid sullying the brand in my experience. From what I've seen, Ford has really dropped the ball on handling the issues in the early run.

That sucks to hear, it seems like that is the only real issue with the 5.0, besides the live axle

[red6spd]

Originally Posted by Red__Zed

To my knowledge, about the same as the 370Z issue. A combination of a crappy early run, combined with some people that can't drive. Based on what I've heard (no experience with Ford, as my car has been fine), Ford as done a far inferior job of stepping up to the plate and handling issues as they come up. Nissan's 'no questions asked' policy probably costs them a little more in the short run, but it did a lot to avoid sullying the brand in my experience. From what I've seen, Ford has really dropped the ball on handling the issues in the early run.

So you do agree with me that some of the problems are from lack of driving skills.

[Red__Zed]

Originally Posted by red6spd

So you do agree with me that some of the problems are from lack of driving skills.

sure, in some cases.

whether it is a significant proportion or not is up for debate though.

[Gauge]

Originally Posted by red6spd

So you do agree with me that some of the problems are from lack of driving skills.

I didn't know it took that much skill to shift up to second.

[red6spd]

Originally Posted by Gauge

I didn't know it took that much skill to shift up to second.

You would think right? The whole concept of driving a stick on paper seems easy but there are some people that will never master it.

[UNKNOWN_370]

Originally Posted by mdxj

I bought my 09 used, it had 11k miles and on it when I picked it up and I am now pushing 20k with zero issues with the tranny. Sorry to hear about the issues but after owning an auto 350 and driving a 7AT 370, I was sold on the manual even with its shortcomings. If Nissan used a dual clutch set up like Porsche's PDK then I would have probably gone that route since PDK is more in line with a manual while the 7AT is just an auto with paddle shifters. I drove a Cayman S with both and the PDK is a lot of fun.

Not to throw any fire on the subject, but do any of the 5.0 guys know what is going on with the TSB for the GT's manual? Last I heard it was just people complaining about it being a little stiff but of course it turned into a big deal.

I would really love to hear your comparo between the 7at and pdk??? What makes it more fun? Cuz I drove the pdk, 135I with dct and EVO MR.

The only advantage I see with those trannies is they have a 550-700hp modification capacity depending on brand, while our AT's only can handle 400rwhp, before they need reinforcement.

Did you have a magic clutch in your DCT that made it more fun?

So elaborate... I really need to hear this one.