2013 Arrivals

UNKNOWN_370 · 09-16-2012, 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockhound

Not to be overly pedantic, but I strongly disagree here. These are independent variables.

Light/Heavy in relation to steering is a description of resistance - a property of how much power steering boost is provided.

Loose/Tight describes how far the wheel must be rotated to affect a meaningful change in direction - this can be measured qualitatively in how many turns the wheel rotates lock to lock. This has little relation to effort/resistance.

In theory, you could have light & tight steering that has little resistance/feedback but a slight movement results in a large steering change (10th generation Thunderbirds were this way - overboosted with no effort and also very sensitive). Likewise you could have heavy & loose steering that requires a lot of effort and you have to move the steering wheel far off center to achieve a turn. Just because steering is heavy doesn't mean it's also going to be responsive and tight.

Now, as to how this relates to the maligned 2013 driving experience is a mystery to me as I haven't driven previous Z's. It just cracks me up how one guy's comment leads to the wild speculation that the '13's steering is shoddy.

Wow, this cracks me up. You should publish an auto magazine called Car & Non-Driver to review cars you haven't driven. I'd subscribe

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Dude, what you described as loose and tight is the STEERING WHEELSturning radius... I would call that long & short, not loose... tight is usable for short in that scenario...i'm talking about steering feel... Maybe light is a better word for you guys to make an argument... But all i'm saying is from the past experience of what i've driven, what it sounds like is... it's not a final opinion or an insult, just an opinion based off what it sounds like... I did say i have to test drive it though... But whatever... I'm sorry to have hurt your feelings. u feeling hot bothered and sensative and can't accept someones predictive "loose" opinion. My opinion is not set in stone either...

Example... I hated the whole look of the refresh before i saw the Z in person. In person, I realized the sport pkg components are a pretty nice qualitative improvement. BUT... my feelings about the front end didn't change.

My first two months of living in an 11, I didn't like the softer suspension from the 09. But I learned to live with it till i got swifts... I didnt know they went softer spring rate in 11... i had to go back to the dealer and ask wtf is wrong with my car.
The most important part of any review imho is suspension and steering feel. the words being chosen by new owners is not appealing in my personal preference from my need frrom a sports car. Why you so hurt??? BMW suspensions dont impress me... neither do electronic lsd's. But most people think bimmers are the ultimate driving cars. I think they drive nice but the Z in general feels better. Again my opinion. Based on driving them... I haven't driven the refresh yet, but i owned more Nissans than any other car. I can almost feel what nissan will do right and wrong based on description alone. i can't do that with any other car cuz i've never driv en as many cars in one brand as i have here... Again, its still an opinion.

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