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The Bolts from Hell...
Pics will be up sooner or later, but I bought a pair of short tails from someone on the forum. They arrived last night, and my friend and I attempted to install them, seen a video, only the midpipe-rear section connection and exhaust hanger removal, then reverse for installation, done.
So I spy some rusted studs, clean nuts on the midpipe and rear section connection. Try to unbolt one. Doesn't work, rusted, makes sense. Spray PB Blaster. Wait 5 minutes. Nothing. Mind you I'm still using hand tools. Spray more PB Blaster. Wait 10 minutes. Tap the bolt a few times with the ratchet. Attempted, got nothing. Frustration builds, but still patient, having dealt with rust before. Spray even more PB Blaster, on all the connections for the exhaust. 4 studs and nuts. 10 minutes later with constant tapping, I try again, to no avail. Even heated them with a lighter (not much heating going on there... lol). Frustrated enough that I spent about 50 minutes trying to turn a single bolt, I thought about some research I did before I replied to a thread here. Someone did a homebrew of autotranny fluid and acetone, 50/50. I went to Walmart, bought some ATF meant for pre2006 ATs. Not a big deal, I figure. Buy some acetone from the painting tools section. I mix them half and half (it's really an odd looking concoction, almost like a strawberry smoothie or something; wouldn't recommend drinking). I saturate the bolts using half of a soda can. Still nothing following the next 30 minutes. I figure I'll try it later, so I properly heat them, drove about 20 minutes in decent weather (75 F) and went WOT a few times. You might call it spirited. I haven't tried to turn a wrench on it since the drive. I am asking around for air tools later today and into the weekend. Who knew that installing short tails would be such a headache!? Any suggestions from anyone? You know, besides finding air tools. |
Galvanic corrosion my friend..an excited car enthusiast with some new hardwares worst enemy!
I ended up having to cut the bolt heads out and drill the body of the bolt out and just replace the bolt. I had a buddy who had great success with driving the heck out of the car for awhile to heat the bolts up and then trying. *** Nevermind - I see you already tried driving the car to heat the bolts. |
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Since the car has been stock for three years and 11.5K miles, I'm willing to bet the stud and the surrounding metal have become fused... essentially a solid piece of metal. There's still a good coating of the homebrew penetrant so maybe I can just bury the throttle and get lucky... otherwise I'm gonna have to find some advice about how to drill out the bolts. I've got a weekend free before more work comes my way, so I might just continually soak the bolts in penetrant. 24 hour working time! Also, 24 Heures du Mans. Yes. |
Use some real heat, driving around or using a lighter will never work. Acetylene torch, propane or butane torch to heat until glowing will do wonders for rusted nuts/bolts.
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Power tool :confused:
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get a long regular wrench, not a socket. Put it on the bolt and precede to beat the **** out of it with a hammer. Thats how I got mine off. Make sure you use the closed side and dont strip it! WD 40 was all I needed.
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then put a closed wrench on the nut, use a mallet (wear goggles) and tap at the wrench real good hitting it counter clockwise. should work just as good as a small capacity impact. also i recommend you get a 18v impact driver. 150lbs/ft is more than plenty to do most work. for heavy duty you'll want a higher capacity unit, preferrably airtools as the wrench itself is much smaller and easier to access suspension bolts, etc. i dont have air tools (due to stupid HOA rules for noise) but no issue with the 18v and breaker bars. |
Bigger wrenches or at least a torque multiplier.
I haven't met a bolt I couldn't break loose, or snap off, with some PB blaster and 1/2" sockets. Even with normal wrenches, it's not that hard. |
the issue here is he needs burst power (impact), not so much torque.
and watch, the bolt head will break off. :rofl2: do at your own risk. :tup: |
The torch idea seems like a last resort, which you have come to I'm afraid. Good luck.
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I hope I do not encounter this type of problem next month when installing my exhaust and HFC. I do not have as much patience. I will break something.
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Do all your mods in the first month of ownership! Avoid the problem! lol :stirthepot:
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Get a set of grip-tite sockets and at least a 1/2" breaker bar. I used 3/4", but I know not everyone has a set that large. Find a pipe to go over the 1/2" breaker bar to extend the leverage of it.
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