Hydroplaned and ditched :(

DJ-of-E · 05-30-2012, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by nmjaxx9

Glad you are good, I have driven kinda hard in the rain a few times, never had hydroplaning issues, but I am running all seasons making a significant difference. Either way you gotta slow down in the rain.

After a rainy session in auto-x, OEM tires completely confirm they are not suited for any rain driving. You're better off with all-season tires if you can't afford it, otherwise for better dry grip but good rain, you need to rain your cash on Potenza S-03. Even the Nitto NT05 made me feel uneasy about driving in the rain if it pours more than 1 inch.

Cmike2780 · 05-30-2012, 03:10 PM

I doubt he would have gotten a reckless driving ticket. I would file with insurance if it cost more that $1500 to repair. That's what it's for. There's a chance your rate could go up, but that really depends on your history. I think a lot people just underestimate the amount of traction they really have. That, coupled with a pretty powerful engine and rwd is a recipe for disaster without VDC. Just need to really slow down and give the tires a chance to push the water out. There's always a trade-off when it comes to max dry traction vs wet traction performace.

gbrettin · 05-30-2012, 03:33 PM

He never said the VDC was off. Just throwing that out there.

cossie1600 · 05-30-2012, 04:02 PM

You hydroplaned because you drove too fast for your tires. If you havr bad tires, drive slow. If you have good tires, still be careful. The whole non sense with the vdc is a joke, just drive slower!

twinturbonet · 05-30-2012, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by EazyD

Lol, I kind of laughed/caught that too.

TheGreatOne · 05-30-2012, 04:48 PM

Glad you are ok, sucks about the damage to the 40th

Driving the Z in the rain is definitely not as fun for me..always feel like i have to be much more cautious...so rainy days are a blah driving day for me

tjlazer · 05-30-2012, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by gbrettin

He never said the VDC was off. Just throwing that out there.

Don't think we were implying that he (said he) had it off, I was just saying that you need to have it ON in the rain. Bottom line. You are taking a huge risk if you don't. Just sayin.

Coon-azz · 05-30-2012, 05:49 PM

Well, happy to see that your alive and even able to report this. Cars are cars....we drive'em, we build them, and sometimes we wear them out over time...Sorry about your ride. I'm unclear on this. I've driven my new 370z 2012 in some very heavy rain in VA. The kind where you can't even see the end of the car and I had no problems with the traction. I wasn't playing around but I still had the car around 70 mph. Sometimes, spins happen. Sometimes its the driver overdriving the limits of the car (tires etc). Have you spent anytime on a wet track learning to drift and control and moderate spins? Just asking. I had my Z out a few weeks back and found it very easy to control the throttle and gearing on the MT around the wet track. I could drift it all day long with the traction control off....Either way, happy to know you're alive to deal with it.

Either way, it sucks when it happens to us. I feel your pain.

11Thumper · 05-30-2012, 05:51 PM

Insurance will label it your fault for driving too fast in the weather conditions. You could be going 5mph and they'll still blame you. Not getting a police report is a bit shady so you'll get asked about that. Not sure what the law is in your state but a lot of places make you report it to DMV if over a certain $ amount.

Good luck but if they ask you to file a police report for the claim the police may have some questions as to why you didn't wait for an officer to show up. I hope alcohol wasn't involved and if it was, learn from it.

gofaster87 · 05-30-2012, 06:02 PM

I wouldn't file with insurance. It will usually show on car fax if airbags were deployed. The loss in value from that would be enough for me to fix it myself.

Zenmaster · 05-30-2012, 06:46 PM

I was going around 45-50 I think.
I had just replaced the rear tires two weeks ago because one had been punctured by a box cutter.
I guess I should of looked into getting different tires.
Either way I can't blame it on anything but myself

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Originally Posted by alcheng

Sorry to see that, but glad that you and the passenger didn't get hurt.

Hope you can get everything fixed ASAP and have it back onto the road.

Just curious, how old are the tires and how fast you were going??

Drex · 05-30-2012, 07:11 PM

how many miles were on the new rears at the time of the accident? new tires can be slippery for a few hundred miles due to compounds applied to them during the manufacturing process.

Zenmaster · 05-30-2012, 07:18 PM

Around 200-300 I think.

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Originally Posted by Drex

how many miles were on the new rears at the time of the accident? new tires can be slippery for a few hundred miles due to compounds applied to them during the manufacturing process.

Viera · 05-30-2012, 07:28 PM

Glad you're okay buddy.

vividracing · 05-30-2012, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Zenmaster

Around 200-300 I think.

Yep, the oils and grease from manufacturing can seriously degrade a tires performance. Especially in the rain.

Glad you're ok. That's gonna be a steep repair bill though.

05-30-2012, 03:10 PM	#32 (permalink)
Cmike2780 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 5,059 Drives: slowwww Rep Power: 29	I doubt he would have gotten a reckless driving ticket. I would file with insurance if it cost more that $1500 to repair. That's what it's for. There's a chance your rate could go up, but that really depends on your history. I think a lot people just underestimate the amount of traction they really have. That, coupled with a pretty powerful engine and rwd is a recipe for disaster without VDC. Just need to really slow down and give the tires a chance to push the water out. There's always a trade-off when it comes to max dry traction vs wet traction performace. __________________ [09][MB][6-Spd MT][Touring][Stillen Gen III][K&N][Borla CBE][Evo-R] [ArchitTEK Photography]

05-30-2012, 04:48 PM	#36 (permalink)
TheGreatOne A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Montreal, Canada Age: 46 Posts: 1,980 Drives: E60 BMW M5 Rep Power: 21	Glad you are ok, sucks about the damage to the 40th Driving the Z in the rain is definitely not as fun for me..always feel like i have to be much more cautious...so rainy days are a blah driving day for me __________________ 2017 SUBARU STI 2008 E60 M5 - SOLD 2010 40th Anniversary 370Z - SOLD (and missing her)

05-30-2012, 05:49 PM	#38 (permalink)
Coon-azz Track Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Fredericksburg,VA Posts: 689 Drives: '12 370z Sport DD Rep Power: 14	Well, happy to see that your alive and even able to report this. Cars are cars....we drive'em, we build them, and sometimes we wear them out over time...Sorry about your ride. I'm unclear on this. I've driven my new 370z 2012 in some very heavy rain in VA. The kind where you can't even see the end of the car and I had no problems with the traction. I wasn't playing around but I still had the car around 70 mph. Sometimes, spins happen. Sometimes its the driver overdriving the limits of the car (tires etc). Have you spent anytime on a wet track learning to drift and control and moderate spins? Just asking. I had my Z out a few weeks back and found it very easy to control the throttle and gearing on the MT around the wet track. I could drift it all day long with the traction control off....Either way, happy to know you're alive to deal with it. Either way, it sucks when it happens to us. I feel your pain. __________________ I don't care how slow you want to drive; I encourage it. JUST GET THE HELL OUT OF THE PASSING LANE YOU TUCK FARD!!!

05-30-2012, 07:11 PM	#42 (permalink)
Drex Enthusiast Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Maryland Posts: 498 Drives: '11 370z MB 6MT SP Rep Power: 14	how many miles were on the new rears at the time of the accident? new tires can be slippery for a few hundred miles due to compounds applied to them during the manufacturing process. __________________ 2011 Nissan 370z \| 6MT \| Magnetic Black \| Sport Package

05-30-2012, 07:28 PM	#44 (permalink)
Viera Track Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 897 Drives: '09 M.Blue 370Z 6MT Rep Power: 264	Glad you're okay buddy. __________________ Fast Intentions / VarrsToen / Stillen / BC Racing / SPC / K&N / Project Kics / Hankook / Morimoto / JDM Rear Fog

05-30-2012, 03:33 PM	#33 (permalink)
gbrettin A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Portage, MI Posts: 2,283 Drives: Tricycle Rep Power: 589151	He never said the VDC was off. Just throwing that out there.

05-30-2012, 04:02 PM	#34 (permalink)
cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 30	You hydroplaned because you drove too fast for your tires. If you havr bad tires, drive slow. If you have good tires, still be careful. The whole non sense with the vdc is a joke, just drive slower!

05-30-2012, 05:51 PM	#39 (permalink)
11Thumper Track Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 754 Drives: '11 370Z, '01 S2k Rep Power: 17	Insurance will label it your fault for driving too fast in the weather conditions. You could be going 5mph and they'll still blame you. Not getting a police report is a bit shady so you'll get asked about that. Not sure what the law is in your state but a lot of places make you report it to DMV if over a certain $ amount. Good luck but if they ask you to file a police report for the claim the police may have some questions as to why you didn't wait for an officer to show up. I hope alcohol wasn't involved and if it was, learn from it.

05-30-2012, 06:02 PM	#40 (permalink)
gofaster87 Base Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 57 Drives: 2011 Nismo 370Z Rep Power: 13	I wouldn't file with insurance. It will usually show on car fax if airbags were deployed. The loss in value from that would be enough for me to fix it myself.

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