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mhcoss 05-26-2012 10:10 PM

Engine Block Heater
 
Anyone know where to find the engine block heater OEM part for the 370?

mhcoss 05-27-2012 07:53 PM

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KanataZ 05-28-2012 04:11 PM

Found on a Nissan dealer site in Canada. http://www.nissanparts.ca/ Check under accessories for the 370z and you'll see the blocker heater ($327.46 - ouch)

11001-1NC0B

That part does appear on an Infinti parts site in the US and it's half the price south of the border.

Infiniti Heater-Cylinder Bloc (11001-1NC0B)

GL

zakimak 06-19-2012 09:05 AM

There should already be one standard...at least I saw it on mine the other day. It's on the driver side near the front of the car beside the intake.

wstar 06-19-2012 09:30 AM

I've never really lived in a cold climate, so I'm not familiar with these block heaters. The Infiniti parts sites also don't show any pics. How big are these things, where do they install? Are they easy to completely remove from the vehicle when not in use? They require wall-outlet AC power to operate right? What kind of temps do they run at?

Just curious about how viable an option it would be, in a warmer climate, to use this to pre-heat the engine and reduce oil warmup time with a big oil cooler setup :)

falconfixer 06-19-2012 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by wstar (Post 1778920)
I've never really lived in a cold climate, so I'm not familiar with these block heaters. The Infiniti parts sites also don't show any pics. How big are these things, where do they install? Are they easy to completely remove from the vehicle when not in use? They require wall-outlet AC power to operate right? What kind of temps do they run at?

Just curious about how viable an option it would be, in a warmer climate, to use this to pre-heat the engine and reduce oil warmup time with a big oil cooler setup :)

IMHO it's overkill to install a block heater even with an oil cooler for warm climates. I had one on my Jeep installed when I built it and it was a $50 add-on. I believe this was something built into the block and I know a lot of the after market ones are magnetic and just stick to the oil pan.

As far as power, yep you plug them into an outside outlet. I had mine on a timer to come one a few hours before I had to leave for work. And for gee-whiz I never plugged in until less than 0 degrees out or colder. Oh did I mention this is when I lived in Alaska and saw temps in the -50s? That is when a block heater is needed.

kenchan 06-19-2012 11:33 AM

yah, cars are only designed to -40C/-40F. so anything near or below you will benefit from heaters, i think.

wstar 06-19-2012 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by falconfixer (Post 1778949)
IMHO it's overkill to install a block heater even with an oil cooler for warm climates. I had one on my Jeep installed when I built it and it was a $50 add-on. I believe this was something built into the block and I know a lot of the after market ones are magnetic and just stick to the oil pan.

As far as power, yep you plug them into an outside outlet. I had mine on a timer to come one a few hours before I had to leave for work. And for gee-whiz I never plugged in until less than 0 degrees out or colder. Oh did I mention this is when I lived in Alaska and saw temps in the -50s? That is when a block heater is needed.

Well what I'm getting at is that with all the oil cooling work I've done (which is great when driving the car), my warm-up times are substantial. I typically leave the car idling in the driveway for 10 minutes straight before I even move the thing, and I still have to take it easy a while after that to let the temps get up. And that's in the summer, in our mild winter it can be 15 minutes. It's not ideal to add all that extra idle time to the car, not to mention the wasted fuel and fumes and whatnot. Being able to pre-heat the block/oil before I even start could possibly cut down on some of that idling, maybe...

falconfixer 06-19-2012 01:02 PM

I can see your point....let me do some digging but for a quick cheap oil heater you can get a universal from JCWhitney or the sort. Hell, even Amazon might have them. It won't be factory but it will be one of the ones that stick on the oil pan. The caveat to that is clearance issues underneath it. Something to think about.

spearfish25 06-19-2012 01:34 PM

Block heaters are mainly for diesel engines in cold climates. You don't need a block heater for your Z. If you live somewhere that cold, you shouldn't have the Z anyway. My Z has been through two Chicago winters, starts promptly in the cold, and is off the min temp peg in about ten minutes if I have the oil cooler covered. Don't waste your time with a heater.

You shouldn't idle your car warm. You should drive it immediately at low rpm to warm her up more quickly.

wstar 06-19-2012 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 1779627)

You shouldn't idle your car warm. You should drive it immediately at low rpm to warm her up more quickly.

Yeah it's hard when you live right next to a freeway though. I get about two blocks of warmup drive before I have to nail it or get read-ended :)

mhcoss 06-19-2012 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 1779627)
Block heaters are mainly for diesel engines in cold climates. You don't need a block heater for your Z. If you live somewhere that cold, you shouldn't have the Z anyway. My Z has been through two Chicago winters, starts promptly in the cold, and is off the min temp peg in about ten minutes if I have the oil cooler covered. Don't waste your time with a heater.

You shouldn't idle your car warm. You should drive it immediately at low rpm to warm her up more quickly.

Lol dude. I live in Edmonton Alberta. We see -40c every winter here.. sometimes for weeks on end. Don't tell me a block heater isn't needed it clearly is. And yea my Z is not the best choice of car for this climate but who are you to say I shouldn't have one?

:gtfo2:

sparky 06-19-2012 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by mhcoss (Post 1780147)
Lol dude. I live in Edmonton Alberta. We see -40c every winter here.. sometimes for weeks on end. Don't tell me a block heater isn't needed it clearly is. And yea my Z is not the best choice of car for this climate but who are you to say I shouldn't have one?

:gtfo2:

:iagree:

My car was destined for Edmonton so it has a block heater. I'm looking to remove the cord though. I don't need it and don't want a big coil of extension cord under the hood. I haven't followed where it goes but I'm assuming the heater is screwed into the block or pan.
Hopefully the cord detaches from it.

mhcoss 06-20-2012 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by sparky (Post 1780407)
:iagree:

My car was destined for Edmonton so it has a block heater. I'm looking to remove the cord though. I don't need it and don't want a big coil of extension cord under the hood. I haven't followed where it goes but I'm assuming the heater is screwed into the block or pan.
Hopefully the cord detaches from it.

Ah your in Vancouver? Do cars purchased there typically come with block heaters? I bought mine in Portland OR so it did not have one from the factory installed. Hopefully you can remove the cord like you said. I would probably remove the extension cord come summer time..

IDZRVIT 06-20-2012 08:30 AM

I believe all Canadian models come with the block heater.

The cord is unobtrusive so why would you want to go through the trouble to remove it? On my '09 Z I didn't even know it was there until someone said it came with a block heater.
It may be attached to a freeze plug which is pressed into the block. Then it would be a pita to get it out.

If using synthetic oil, a block heater becomes less useful as the oil won't be as thick at colder temperatures as dino oil would be. But getting down to -40 it would have its benefits especially at reducing cold start wear with little lubrication.


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