No delay today. It really doesn't matter to me if there is a delay or not. I pulled the fuse and nothing else out of the ordinary happened so I intend to leave it out . I have a 2009 so I do not want to have any steering lock issues. I think the idea of the steering lock is ridiculous anyway. I have a security system, If they get past that, they are going to steal the car anyway. I had a friend with a MKIV Supra with about 30 K extra stuff invested. One night when he was at the Olive Garden a flat bed pulled up , put some chains on the back and pulled it up , dragging it accross the parking space and up onto the truck, then gone.

No delay issues in the last two days... It's all in my head I think! :icon14:

:tup: look forward on hearing what Nissan has to say...btw i had the delay again this morning. It doesn't happen all the time but it's been happening often enough after removing the fuse that i'm convinced that's the cause bro.

Also, i look at it more as a "computer communication" issue rather than some kind of "electrical" malfunction which is what's scaring people i think but i think we're on the same page with that.

Quick and easy, once I found the fuse box, unfortunately the dang fuse slipped out of my fingers once I pulled it out and fell in-between a area I cant see / get to...not that it matters much ...works like a charm! repped and repped! Thanks!

If you look at the fuse panel at the drivers side kick panel on the top right hand side there is a designated fuse puller that won't allow to to drop them as your pulling them.

A thought as this is becoming a long thread of mostly unhelpful information:

I think we should close this thread and repost this DIY with a clear title and a first post that outlines exactly what to do. I had to read about 6 pages of posts to figure out where the fuse was, how to get the IPDM out, and which fuse to pull.

just did this, started it up, no delays or anything. airythangs copacetic haha. thanks guys! repped! :tup:

Also had one delay start
 

Had a delay start the other morning, went to reach for the start again but it started before pushing it...almost forgot I removed the fuse for the steering lock, everything else has been normal. Never had that happen before but not really too concerned. It's definitely not our imagination or paranoia...

Phaddi_inc

yeah, that's it.

General question about the steering lock issue. Does the problem occur before a certain amount of miles or can it happen at any time during the life cycle of the car? For instance I was wondering you bought a 2009 370Z above XX,XXX miles you would be safe from the lock. Also, is there anyway to check if the car has had the problem before and been fixed?

Miles or age don't seem to be any sort of indicator as to when or if the lock will fail. Just for example, i had my car since new the beginning of 2009 and now have 8k miles on it and no problems with the lock. I just did the bypass as a preemptive strike.

pretty much...mine's an '09 that I've owned since new and I have close to 30k miles. My lock hasn't failed yet. I removed the fuse preemptively as well.

gtr guys were finding the problem around 18K+. i think ours is about the same, but there is no scientific evidence.

if your lock is working and if you dont have a spare (or dont want to buy one), i recommend you try it before your lock fails at your own risk. it appears the lock failures happen more often in shorter-distance driven cars in colder weather as battery cca is lower.

Thank for the info, what do you mean by the bold text? Try what exactly?

Pulling the fuse, installing the bypass plug or getting the version "D" lock.

Thanks. So those are 3 methods to preemptively prevent the steering lock problem from happening? What are the pros/cons of each?

read read read it's all spelled out in the forums.

I have been reading, but was just hoping for a quick answer.

Most of the threads I've been reading are the DIY's, including the awesome one you've made.

http://www.the370z.com/diy-section-d...=steering+lock

http://www.the370z.com/diy-section-d...=steering+lock

http://www.the370z.com/diy-section-d...rly-2010s.html

Here's a quick answer:
Spend over $500 to have a spare lock mechanism ready to install and have the security screws on the original already replaced with conventional screws so if you have to change out the lock in some parking lot at midnight somewhere you can do it in a few minutes. Provided you have the tools and a flashlight along with the replacement lock.

-or- Cut the brown wire. Just be careful that you leave enough hanging out so you can put wire nuts on the ends to protect them, or a crimp-type butt splice on to reconnect if you want to sell the car

-or- Pull the fuse. The jury is still out if this may cause other problems. Personally, I don't think that's a good idea

-or- Spend $50 and order the harness. Same electronic result as cutting the brown wire, extremely easy to install, reconnect the brown wire if desired, add a switch if desired, or revert to stock if you go to sell the car

:tiphat:

I also have had the delay, happened in the morning the day after The fuse was pulled, hasn't happened since. Definitely seems to be linked to the pulling of the fuse, but I don't see any potential issue. Even if something else did go wrong, put the fuse back in, go to Nissan, and use warranty anyways.

Bingo:tup:

I have been waiting about a week to see if anybody would say that.:hello:

Rep to you my good man:icon17:

I think the ECU must learn from the fuse being pulled because I have not had a single issue in the last few days after pulling the fuse last week.

Did three other cars this weekend, Including EdConline's! Viva la fusa vaminos! (pardon the horrible attempt at Spanish)

I have been refraining myself from posting what "I think I found"basically my opinion is that the CPU gets inputs from certain places and if one is missing it will recheck everything quickly(maybe 1 sec)then start the car.

I also believe like posted above the car learns ex.disconnecting the battery for it to relearn drivability habits and so on,I hope this is the case plus that would explain why it happens once in awhile instead of all the time.

Anyone noticing parasitic drain yet? :) just wondering if the steering in unlock state drains.

What? How?????

The circuit is disconnected... therefore no power at all to the steering lock, therefore no drain....

I'm thinking/hoping this is the case as well...haven't had a delay since my last post about it...I think couple days now. :tup:

Well my fuse is still located in my arm rest compartment, and I haven't had another delay start since the one I had the day after I removed the fuse.:tup:

Phaddi_inc

Pulled the fuse and no start up delay issues :tup:

I've had my fuse out for about 2 weeks now. I've had at least 5 delayed starts. Not to worried about it though.

How do you get to this fuse?? Do I need to remove the battery? Looked at it real quick today and the battery looked to be in the way. No big deal, just wondering.

Just the battery cover and the windshield trim that goes up to the pillar. Once removed the box is inside the far left side of the battery hull

:tiphat:

Yeah, I saw the box. Was just wondering if the batt needed to be removed to access it. Guess not :tup:

Here's a repost of my earlier pics....

http://www.the370z.com/attachments/d...l-img_1441.jpg

http://www.the370z.com/attachments/d...l-img_1436.jpg

VERY VERY easy to do!
Just did this mod this morning before work. It literally took 10min. lol

3~4 rivets for battery cover, another 3~4 for the passenger windshield cowl, slide the cowl forward and up.

You'll see two press clip things near the fuse box (there are 2, the bigger one is the correct one).
Press and lift up.

and take out the fuse.

Make sure to put your car on ACC before you take out the fuse

Did this mod 3 weeks ago. Super easy to do and no issues at all. Thanks to everybody that contributed to solving this problem! I'm so glad I didn't have to waste $500+ on a new lock and towing expenses.

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No problem,you can rep me and Dai for your savings.

Just fixed mine too this morning. Cranks up with no delay 2009 Touring with nav Auto.Thanks to all that did the research on this.Great fix

Your welcome:hello:

You can rep me and Dia.

I'll probably do this right now myself.

Just did it. Pretty simple. Only pain was getting the fuse out (had to find needle nosed pliers) and then sliding that damn fuse box back down.

Started up and turned off the car a bunch of times, took it for a drive, no issues.