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volman 01-09-2014 02:39 PM

I got the entire box up past the battery, but the wiring was being pulled pretty tight and I couldn't maneuver the box around much. The wiring wasn't hung up on anything. I just couldn't get the box open and didn't want to force the issue and break something.

SouthArk370Z 01-09-2014 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by volman (Post 2643806)
I got the entire box up past the battery, but the wiring was being pulled pretty tight and I couldn't maneuver the box around much. The wiring wasn't hung up on anything. I just couldn't get the box open and didn't want to force the issue and break something.

Ah. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

It's been so long since I had mine open that I can't remember how I did it. If no one can tell you how to do it, I'll see if I can get mine apart again.

VCuomo 01-09-2014 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by volman (Post 2643806)
I got the entire box up past the battery, but the wiring was being pulled pretty tight and I couldn't maneuver the box around much. The wiring wasn't hung up on anything. I just couldn't get the box open and didn't want to force the issue and break something.

Here are the steps to perform the fuse pulling (note the step that I highlighted in bold):

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Originally Posted by VCuomo (Post 1775597)
:D Another satisfied customer here!

For those of you who haven't done this yet, here are the steps I followed (I'm not sure that they've been put in one place):
  1. Remove the battery compartment cover (two tabs at the front end of the cover).
  2. Remove the four clips from the perimeter of the battery compartment surround. To remove each clip, use a small flat blade screwdriver and gently pry up the center round "head" of the clip, then pull out the entire clip.
  3. Remove the battery compartment surround; note the section at the front driver side that goes under the support bar.
  4. Remove the passenger side windshield cowl's rubber hood seal just to the rear of the battery compartment - there are four clips embedded in the seal, just put your fingers around them from between the firewall and the seal and pull up
  5. Remove the passenger side windshield cowl (two clips that are the same as the battery compartment surround). Note that there is a tab (but no clip) where the cowl goes underneath the windshield seal - pull this up slightly, then pull the cowl out.
  6. The fuse box will now be fully visible and accessible. There are two tabs at the top of the fuse box that go into the steel frame that the box is sitting in. Simultaneously push the two tabs towards the driver side of the car, and then pull the fuse box up and out.
  7. There are two tabs on the bottom of the fuse box (where the harness enters) - push the two tabs and pull the cover open.
  8. Put the car in ACC - do not start the car.
  9. Remove the steering lock 10A fuse (top fuse in the lower lefthand block of four fuses - see the pictures in other posts in this thread, or just look at the diagram that is silkscreened into the top of the fuse box). To remove the fuse, I just used the same flat blade screwdriver that I used on the clips to partially pry up the fuse, then I used my fingers to pull it the rest of the way out. No fuse puller or needle-nose pliers needed.
  10. Change the car from ACC to OFF.
  11. Put the cover back on the fuse box.
  12. Put the fuse box back into the steel frame - make sure (a) to align the slots at the center of the box with the tabs in the frame; (b) that the harness will fold under the box and slide down into the area underneath the box; and (c) that the two locking tabs at the top of the box are fully engaged and the box is locked into place when you are done.
  13. If you wish, now is a good time to start the car and make sure that all is well. Before you start the car, make sure that no trim pieces, clips, or tools are loose in the engine compartment.
  14. If you did start the car, turn it OFF.
  15. Re-install the windshield cowl. To reinsert the two clips, push the center portion of the clip all of the way up, then insert the clip, then push the center portion of the clip all of the way down (you should hear a click when it engages). If the clip that goes into the passenger fender side of the cowl does not engage (or if the cowl does not lay flat on the fender), you most likely do not have the fuse box fully seated in the steel frame - remove the cowl and go back to step 12.
  16. Re-install the winshield cowl rubber seal.
  17. Re-install the battery surround trim (remember the portion that goes under the bar), re-inserting the four clips the same way as with the windshield cowl.
  18. Re-install the battery compartment cover.
  19. Pop open a tall frosty can of refreshment, stand back, and admire your $500 savings!
I believe that's it! If I forgot anything, I'm sure someone will let us know.

So, in summary: 15-20 minutes of your time and one flat blade screwdriver to save $500 - not a bad deal at all!

Advice: Put the 10A fuse you removed in a ziplock baggie in the car ("just in case"). In fact, next time I visit the auto parts store I'm going to purchase a few spare 10A and 15A fuses and leave them in the same baggie. Also carry a small flat blade screwdriver in the car in case one of the other fuses blows while you're on the road.

HTH!

DISCLAIMER: Perform this procedure at your own risk - I accept no responsibility for any damage to you or your car!


volman 01-09-2014 07:39 PM

Went and tried again a couple of hours ago and got it open without a problem. Maybe the cold garage and a little impatience got the best of me last time. It was easy. Now I need to get a few new clips to replace some that I noticed had some tabs broken off. Thanks for the responses everyone.

cubarican84 03-11-2014 10:26 PM

2009 70k and it happened. Thing is I havent been on 370z.com in over a year. Anyway it crapped out in the unlocked position but thankfully in my garage. Then I remembered seeing something back in the day on here about steering lock. Well I initially tried steering column up and down technique. Then moved to gentle taps on the actual lock. Nothing. Then I come across a user who said to not puss out on the taps and to beat it like it was taking $600 from me. Lol. I didnt go lunatic on it but I did apply more than gentle force. Thankfully it unlocked and I already had fuse box open and ready to pull. Just wanted to say thanks everybody and to remind not be scared to give more than a gentle tap if this ever happens to you.

Footloose301 03-12-2014 05:24 AM

LMAO "Beat it like it was taking $600 from me"!!!!

Damn prostitutes

maximusz 04-22-2014 07:24 PM

I think my steering lock took a dump on my in the open position today. The "key" symbol was on next to the readout gauge and it didn't lock when I turned the car off. It happened a few days ago but was working properly ever since. I pulled the fuse just in case

thompsontechs 06-24-2014 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by maximusz (Post 2791140)
I think my steering lock took a dump on my in the open position today. The "key" symbol was on next to the readout gauge and it didn't lock when I turned the car off. It happened a few days ago but was working properly ever since. I pulled the fuse just in case

Mine failed open too. The car would not start and said lock on it. I finally got it to start with a combination of pulling the neg and then putting the key in fobgina. It took several times and finally just started working... fuse has not been pulled.

Funny thing, when this happened, I didn't know about the issue and thought it was related to some other work I had just done. Will pull the fuse now that I know.

JT

Jazzster 12-03-2014 05:58 PM

No issues with mine (2010 Roadster) but pulled it anyway. Just got the car 2 weeks ago and definitely don't need this cropping up later. THANKS ALL FOR A GREAT RESOURCE!!!!

Nismology 12-05-2014 11:16 AM

Last week, my ESCL malfunctioned and my car got stuck in the lock position. I tapped on it with a hammer (not so gently) and got it going. Several days later it malfunctioned again and tapping on it wouldn't do the trick. I was able to take the ESCL off and rig it to where I could start it so I can take it to the dealership and have the piece swapped out. It's been recalled so it won't cost anything. Mine's a 2010 370Z Nismo.

Memphis370Z 12-07-2014 10:00 PM

Finally got around to pulling the fuse today and all works well. One thing I noticed was a kind of whirring coming from under the hood when I shut the car off. My guess is that I never noticed it before and am just hyper-sensitive, since I was worried I would screw something up by pulling the fuse.

SouthArk370Z 12-07-2014 10:15 PM

Radiator fan? TBs? VVEL? Could be a lot of things - all normal. Of the dozens of people that have pulled the fuse, none have reported any problems.

Memphis370Z 12-07-2014 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z (Post 3050349)
Radiator fan? TBs? VVEL? Could be a lot of things - all normal. Of the dozens of people that have pulled the fuse, none have reported any problems.

Thanks, SouthArk. I figured as much. I appreciate the reassurance.

ShockWave 01-12-2015 02:42 PM

I have a 2010 and the key light came on the other day. But its off now. The car starts fine. Should i pull the fuse or wait? Only Pull the fuse while the car is in 'ACCESSORY' MODE?

VCuomo 01-12-2015 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ShockWave (Post 3079342)
I have a 2010 and the key light came on the other day. But its off now. The car starts fine. Should i pull the fuse or wait? Only Pull the fuse while the car is in 'ACCESSORY' MODE?

Pull the fuse. Follow these instructions: http://www.the370z.com/1775597-post255.html

SouthArk370Z 01-12-2015 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ShockWave (Post 3079342)
I have a 2010 and the key light came on the other day. But its off now. The car starts fine. Should i pull the fuse or wait? Only Pull the fuse while the car is in 'ACCESSORY' MODE?

Yes, pull the fuse now. If you wait until the unit fails, it may require a tow to the dealer and a ~$1200 fix. Several DIYs on this site - see link in my sig.

ShockWave 01-12-2015 11:37 PM

I pulled the fuse.... it took me about 30mins to take things off and put back on. Thanks for the help guys! =)

Juice14 03-23-2015 09:20 AM

Another victim here. Came across this problem about a month ago, used the "tap" technique and everything started working fine for a couple of weeks. Problem came back like expected, so I tapped the SL, didn't work.... then hit it with a hemmer and nothing....
So I had to take the SL off and take of the hex screw part off the SL.
With the SL connected but hanging in my hands I was able to push down on it with a screw driver and put the car in ACC.
Then I pulled the Fuse out.

Its amazing the info on this forum, thanks to everyone for the insight, pics, etc. Really a great community.

Bryan212 03-23-2015 05:55 PM

I think that my sterring lock failed today. It wont do anything when i press the start button and i have the key light on the dash. The steering wheel is unlocked right now so if i pull the fuse will it start?

JARblue 03-23-2015 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Bryan212 (Post 3146548)
I think that my sterring lock failed today. It wont do anything when i press the start button and i have the key light on the dash. The steering wheel is unlocked right now so if i pull the fuse will it start?

Nope. Follow one of the DIYs to try and fix it yourself (i.e. beat on it). Or take it in for the recall. You have to remove the fuse when the car is in accessory mode (ACC).

Bryan212 03-23-2015 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3146595)
Nope. Follow one of the DIYs to try and fix it yourself (i.e. beat on it). Or take it in for the recall. You have to remove the fuse when the car is in accessory mode (ACC).

Ah ok thanx for the info. Looks like I'll be putting my hammer to use.

JaviZ 05-02-2015 07:06 PM

Pulled the steering lock fuse (quadruple checked). Still hear the damn thing unlocking when I go to ACC and car still won't start every time. How the hell is this possible?

Something else I've noticed is I don't get the key warning in the cluster. I get a clutch warning. WTF!

BRM3D1NA 05-03-2015 11:30 AM

I've never really had the steering wheel lock failure issue, probably since my car is 2014, but having the wheel lock IS a pain in the *** when trying to move the wheels whilst doing work near fender liner...Anyways I was going to remove the fuse and noticed the I don't even have a fuse in the slot for the steering wheel lock fuse. Anyone else notice this in a 2014?

kenchan 05-03-2015 11:37 AM

this is new.. i thought they completely removed that feature on the 12+. the 14's have a different steering lock somewhere?

alcheng 05-03-2015 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BRM3D1NA (Post 3186814)
I've never really had the steering wheel lock failure issue, probably since my car is 2014, but having the wheel lock IS a pain in the *** when trying to move the wheels whilst doing work near fender liner...Anyways I was going to remove the fuse and noticed the I don't even have a fuse in the slot for the steering wheel lock fuse. Anyone else notice this in a 2014?

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 3186820)
this is new.. i thought they completely removed that feature on the 12+. the 14's have a different steering lock somewhere?


they removed it since 2011 :tup:

SouthArk370Z 05-03-2015 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by JaviZ (Post 3186458)
Pulled the steering lock fuse (quadruple checked). Still hear the damn thing unlocking when I go to ACC and car still won't start every time. How the hell is this possible?

Something else I've noticed is I don't get the key warning in the cluster. I get a clutch warning. WTF!

Are you sure it's not the fuel pump you are hearing? If you pulled the right fuse, there should be no noise from the ESCL.

Sounds like your clutch switch needs adjustment. Car won't start if it thinks the clutch pedal is not pressed.

JaviZ 05-04-2015 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z (Post 3186912)
Are you sure it's not the fuel pump you are hearing? If you pulled the right fuse, there should be no noise from the ESCL.

Sounds like your clutch switch needs adjustment. Car won't start if it thinks the clutch pedal is not pressed.

Thanks, I'll check that out and give it a try.

grobie 05-04-2015 05:26 AM

Steering Lock
 
There is another little trick for the steering lock. If the lock goes bad, and you have a no start, you can remove the steering lock and wedge the lock in the down position, which tricks the BCM into thinking that the steering wheel is unlocked and ready to start...this can be done even after the lock fails. Just an FYI!

LennyK 05-30-2015 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by wheee! (Post 1741419)
I finally grew a pair and pulled the fuse box up and out... it was being held in by the harness, so be careful when pulling it out. Here are the pics people are waiting for....

The first picture shows where I pulled the fuse and the second one denotes it's location in the box.

AGAIN! MAKE SURE THE CAR IS IN 'ACCESSORY' MODE FIRST!!!!

THANKS A LOT:hello:

I just got my 2010 Roadster A/T and saw the light on once while driving - read "Key Symbol - No Key".

UPDATE PLEASE:

For those who have pulled the "Steering Lock" fuse (next to the battery)
Have you had any problems since (any further warning lights)?
Has the car performed properly without this fuse?
How long has it been pulled?
Is it currently covered by a Nissan recall?

I have No Problem modding my machines to make them better - just being careful first!

SouthArk370Z 05-31-2015 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by LennyK (Post 3213933)
... For those who have pulled the "Steering Lock" fuse (next to the battery)
Have you had any problems since (any further warning lights)?...

That fuse powers the motor in the ESCL and, IIRC, nothing else. Pulling the fuse will not have an effect on any other part of the car. The FSM has schematics showing what's going on.
I removed the fuse in my '09 Touring and had zero problems related to ESCL fuse removal for the two years or so I kept the car after that.

There's a link in my sig to a thread that summarizes a lot of the posts on this site abput ESCL problems/fixes. Hasn't been updated in quite a while, but things haven't really changed since last update.

casper151291 06-27-2015 12:21 PM

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Thank you guys so much for the DIY. I laughed when the dealer told me to pay $1,221. One question I have is does the key fob go away or is it gona stay on? Do I have to manually delete the code? Thanks again guys

Bad Boy 07-02-2015 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by casper151291 (Post 3241154)
Thank you guys so much for the DIY. I laughed when the dealer told me to pay $1,221. One question I have is does the key fob go away or is it gona stay on? Do I have to manually delete the code? Thanks again guys

I went in for an oil change last week and I was notified of a recall on my car. I asked what the recall was for and they said it was for this steering lock issue.
Then I remembered reading this thread and decided to shed light on the recall.
They too quoted the repair at over$1000, but was covered because of the recall.
It was a Nissan dealer in Orlando.

Zbrah 07-08-2015 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Bad Boy (Post 3245588)
I went in for an oil change last week and I was notified of a recall on my car. I asked what the recall was for and they said it was for this steering lock issue.
Then I remembered reading this thread and decided to shed light on the recall.
They too quoted the repair at over$1000, but was covered because of the recall.
It was a Nissan dealer in Orlando.

Hooray for the370z!

And welcome back, brah ;)

Memphis370Z 07-08-2015 05:19 PM

:wtf2:

Bad Boy 07-08-2015 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Memphis370Z (Post 3251005)
:wtf2:

Lmao, I decided to only make threads/posts/replies when it pertains strictly to 370Z related cosmetic/mechanical issues.
So no worries. Hakuna Matata!

Zbrah 07-08-2015 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Bad Boy (Post 3251055)
Lmao, I decided to only make threads/posts/replies when it pertains strictly to 370Z related cosmetic/mechanical issues.
So no worries. Hakuna Matata!

Well, that didn't last long :rofl2:

litesky 10-05-2015 06:18 PM

Just another story...

Was at work and decided to go out for lunch. Pressed the "button" and no response from my car.

Crap.

Coworkers laughed. I endured the "sorry bro" comments from my friends, stared at my steering wheel as I maniacally pressed the "button" multiple times completely shocked by my fairlady's lack of response.

Damn it. What happened? *heart torn*

Went back in to the office. Holy $#!%. 1200? But wait. Ok. There's a recall. Mine's a 2010. Called my local dealership.

"Your vin has no recall linked." What?
"Even if it was linked you're outside of your warranty." $@#!

Continued to read through forums. Watched an awesome easy video from Benny B on youtube. Grabbed a hammer and a screwdriver.

15 mins later... I'm grabbing lunch in my Z.

THANK YOU EVERYONE. THANK YOU THANK YOU.
Thank you BAER383, bdi99, fritz, rhd and daisuke!!!!
God Bless you.

#saved1200today #didyoupullyourfuse?

eastwest2300 10-05-2015 06:58 PM

I'm still kinda up in the air on this though..

check out my situation.

initially pulled the fuse, was notified by the dealer to bring it in for the recall, so i put the fuse back in, they did the recall fix... just recently, my "key" indicator light goes on on my cluster.. i swapped both batteries in the fobs (didn't turn off indicator light), pulled the fuse (didn't turn off indicator light), disconnected the battery for a good 5 minutes (that actually worked) but the indicator light came back on (its been on ever since, probably a good 2 months easily).

Thoughts? Anyone having the same issue?

Array 10-06-2015 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300 (Post 3323090)
I'm still kinda up in the air on this though..

check out my situation.

initially pulled the fuse, was notified by the dealer to bring it in for the recall, so i put the fuse back in, they did the recall fix... just recently, my "key" indicator light goes on on my cluster.. i swapped both batteries in the fobs (didn't turn off indicator light), pulled the fuse (didn't turn off indicator light), disconnected the battery for a good 5 minutes (that actually worked) but the indicator light came back on (its been on ever since, probably a good 2 months easily).

Thoughts? Anyone having the same issue?

Take that to the dealer, there are some horror stories around here where people will have that light for a period of time and one day suddenly the car will not start and must be towed, cant recall the issue exactly though but Nissan seems to have a Key FOB issue... My rogue FOB also gave out

ColemanLee09 12-29-2015 02:17 PM

Just pulled the fuse on my 09, literally 10 minute job. Thanks!


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