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EDIT: After looking at daisuke149's post again, I highly doubt they will opt for deleting them. It says clearly REPLACE the units, soo much for weight reduction I guess LOL. Although it would really make sense on Nissans part to just delete the damn things, less money spent and time for Nissan once the replaced units start failing like is bound to happen. Lets think logically here Nissan, come on! |
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Just received a phone call from consumer affairs executive office: P3208 issued to dealers today. 3 week investigation last month, hr long fight on the phone yesterday, and a couple nasty messages on facebook...finally happy.
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NTB13-014 Date: March 7, 2013 VOLUNTARY SERVICE CAMPAIGN 2009 – 2011 STEERING LOCK UNIT CAMPAIGN ID #: APPLIED VEHICLES: 2009 – 2010 370Z (Z34) INTRODUCTION P3208 2009 – 2011 GTR (R35) Check Service COMM to confirm campaign eligibility. Nissan is conducting a Voluntary Service Campaign to replace the steering lock assembly on certain specific 2009 – 2010 model year 370Z and 2009 – 2011 model year GTR vehicles due to excessive oil within the assembly, which could cause the Body Control Module (BCM) to prevent the engine from starting when the ignition is cycled. This issue does not affect steering or engine operation when the vehicle is already running. IDENTIFICATION NUMBER Nissan has assigned identification number P3208 to this campaign. This number must appear on all communications and documentation of any nature dealing with this campaign. DEALER RESPONSIBILITY Dealers are to repair vehicles falling within range of this campaign that enter the service department. This includes vehicles purchased from private parties, vehicles presented by transient (tourists) owners, and vehicles in a dealer’s inventory Nissan Bulletins are intended for use by qualified technicians, not 'do-it-yourselfers'. Qualified technicians are properly trained individuals who have the equipment, tools, safety instruction, and know-how to do a job properly and safely. NOTE: If you believe that a described condition may apply to a particular vehicle, DO NOT assume that it does. See your Nissan dealer to determine if this applies to your vehicle. |
Anyone in Canada have confirmation in this yet? I had time today to give my dealer a quick call and they couldn't find anything about this.
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A week later took my Z in to get the hatch checked and the sevice representative replaced my steering lock. NTB13-14, PN-D8700-JF00D. I still have the fuse pulled and everything still works!
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which fuse actually gets pulled? i read the original post but cant seem to locate it in the fuse box.
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http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...ml#post1741419 Here's a pic of where it is plainly identified on the fuse box cover and then a pic of the fuse box with it removed:
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We pulled the fuse today. Biggest issue we had was locating the fuse box and getting it out. On the 2010, it is located to the left of the battery and a number of pieces had to come off to get the box out.
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The campaign letter for replacement
Here is the letter received in the mail.
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What are they replacing it with? The new Z's don't have a lock. Another lock that will jam? No thanks. I cut the brown wire as soon as Fritz figured it out for us. When I get that letter, in the garbage it goes. I just hope the people who got screwed and paid out of pocket will get refunded.
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OP, could you just put this DIY video in your first post so that people don't have to read through till page 11(I guess) to find the first pic of where the fuse is located? I spent sometime myself search through this board but none of them has clear step by step DIY instructions(with pix or videos) on how to pull the fuse. This thread would be much helpful if you could include this video in your first post. Thanks!:tiphat:
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Is so easy even a ........
This video made it so easy, even a man like me could do it. I could be a caveman once in a while. :icon18: Before the video I was looking at the wrong box for a moment. Luckyly I knew I was looking at the wrong box. Thank you Mr. Forza370z for the video clip.
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Even though I know we've won the war and Nissan just issued a recall on SLU. But like somebody else had mentioned, who knows if the new unit will fail again or not. So pulling the fuse is still an option for us. Again, if OP would put up this video into his first post it would be much helpful in a long run for the z community.:tiphat: |
Wow...so Nissan issued a recall? About f-ing time.
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http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-w...ring-lock.html LOL. Sorry guys everytime I see this thread title I just can't help laughing!:icon17: But to your point, I totally agree. Who knows if the RevD will last for how long before you get stuck again. I myself is going to replace the unit but I will still pull the fuse afterwards just to be safe. |
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I am going to get my upgraded steering wheel lock fuse; but need to put old fuse back in to get upgraded fuse.....so do i put the old fuse back in the same way i pulled it? I will pull the new fuse when i get her home. If i sell her I'll give the new owner the option like i had.
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Second, I'd leave the fuse out and hand it to the dealership when you take the car in for the recall - let them put it back in. You never know, your defective SLU may fail right after you put the fuse back in. |
I just had mine done today. Dropped the car off and they took care of that and some update for the Nav....and now my new issue with the dealership...
I'm semi-pissed cause they drove the car for 4 miles afterward. Tried finding out why they needed to do a test drive for these 2 things and didn't get a straight answer. They also are saying that I now need new rear tires when my car has just 15k miles and I never really drive it hard. They happen to have a gently used set in stock that I could get at discount. Should I be mad? |
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I actually just got the recall letter in the mail.
I'm still pretty sure on pulling the fuse but knowing the dealer will upgrade me to a Lock D or something is also peace of mind...for a little while at least. |
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Haven't gotten a recall notice yet but called the dealer last friday. Turns out it's on the list and will go in for replacement. Told service Rep. I had already pulled the fuse and questioned reinstalling it. Told me not to do it for fear of it failing.
It might not be a bad idea to call and find out. I still plan on pulling the fuse after replacement! |
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Hi All,
After reading all the 50 pages of this thread, I have to say I am happy for you that Nissan recognises their responsibilities and support the costs of this expensive repair.:tup: In Europe the problem is a little different as in general the lock steering is requested by law, or at least by insurances companies. I doubt that if a car is stolen and retrieved with a modified harness or a SLU fuse removed, they accept to pay for this sinister. Nissan in Europe didn’t announce anything about that so for us, up to now, the problem stays. I would wonder how the 2013 models are marketed. My Z is a 2012 model (bought new on October 2012) but I don't know the assembly date. The SLU is a D revision (with a suffix) as showed on the picture. From your standpoint, what option would be the best here in France ? BR. |
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Second, I would absolutely familiarize yourself with the laws and or insurance policies relating to the steering lock in your region (France) before you mess with anything yourself. For example, would pulling the fuse be a violation of law? Or could it perhaps void your insurance coverage in some scenario? Third, you may call or visit a dealership and see what ESCL Revision the 2013 models have (or even the 2014s when they start showing up). Is it the same or different from yours? I was under the impression that late 2011 models and later did not have an ESCL at all (in North America, at least). |
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So it is highly improbable that a policeman ask you on a road side if your lock steering is working. But the insurance coverage is given on the CoC basis, so if a sinister arises, of course for small amount of money they don’t check a lot, But if the sinister involves expensive indemnities or repairs, they try to not pay and if the car is not strictly conform, they say “This is not the car we had covered”. We know several cases like that and the procedures are long and expensive. Quote:
BR. PS I hope my explanation is clear in English as even in French it is not easy to explain. |
No ACC
My car won't even go into ACC mode, got any suggestions?
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Vampirex wrote: In Europe the problem is a little different as in general the lock steering is requested by law, or at least by insurances companies. I doubt that if a car is stolen and retrieved with a modified harness or a SLU fuse removed, they accept to pay for this sinister.
"Pull the fuse"? Fitting a blown fuse would cover your problem!! (up to a point). The much earlier "Steering lock: cut one wire, switch optional" thread......noted the need (certainly in Europe starting last year) to have an "operational lock" ....so fit a secret switch ... which you can switch on/off any time....and, done at the right time, gives hugely improved security over Nissan's. "cutting the Brownie" thread was great photos posted by rhd. Some time later a bear traced the brown wire to the fuse in the IPDM..."for real". Fritz |
It's a start! Steering lock control units
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After countless phone calls, emails, complaints filed with just about anything related to cars/nissan, postings on their Facebooks and then getting told to GFY. I ended up paying for this myself. Well... I came home to this in the mail today, so I wonder if this is is specifically for Altimas or all Nissan vehicles affected. Worth another shot to call or fill out the application for reimbursement.
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Fritz has posted what I think is the best solution for you (harness or switch for the brown wire). Theoretically, modifying the brown wire still sounds like it could be construed as unlawful. And again, the largest risk factor is the vehicle being involved in a large insurance claim (you used the word sinister, which isn't quite accurate, but seven years of Latin in school helps my translation skills :icon17:). It's ridiculous that the ESCL would have anything to with any claim other than a stolen vehicle, but that's how it works. |
Nissan issued a recall on steering lock unit ~ a week ago. I already had mine replace upon fail a couple years ago. They replaced that unit under the recall. They said I would get a letter from Nissan in a couple weeks and can ignore.
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Forgot to mention I was just in for regular service and they had new unit in stock. Recall is for both Z & GtR
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