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Baer383 12-31-2012 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted by BHR-370z (Post 2086105)
Nice work guys, problem solved (REP ++)
Who did you rep?
Did you put your name on it?

Sevens370Z 12-31-2012 07:25 PM
Thanks again. Towed to the dealer and fixed under the extended warranty in less than 2 hours.

Baer383 12-31-2012 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Sevens370Z (Post 2087579)
Thanks again. Towed to the dealer and fixed under the extended warranty in less than 2 hours.
:tup:

BHR-370z 01-01-2013 11:40 PM
To you (Bare383) and to (Galeforce) i guess this was on 2-Dce-2012.

Baer383 01-02-2013 04:18 AM
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Originally Posted by BHR-370z (Post 2089342)
To you (Bare383) and to (Galeforce) i guess this was on 2-Dce-2012.
???

Are you referring to reps?

Akbubba47 01-03-2013 05:15 PM
This was painless and worked 100%. 3 minutes and I eliminated all chances of being stranded by the abomination known as ur steering lock lol. Great job guys.

Baer383 01-03-2013 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Akbubba47 (Post 2092513)
This was painless and worked 100%. 3 minutes and I eliminated all chances of being stranded by the abomination known as ur steering lock lol. Great job guys.
Your welcome:tiphat:

I'm glad it worked for you.:tup:

molamann 01-04-2013 10:58 PM
Do I need to buy a new steering column lock if my steering wheel is locked and my ignition switched stuck as "locked"?

Baer383 01-04-2013 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by molamann (Post 2094955)
Do I need to buy a new steering column lock if my steering wheel is locked and my ignition switched stuck as "locked"?
Yes if you can't get it to open.

SurfDog 01-05-2013 01:58 AM
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Originally Posted by molamann (Post 2094955)
Do I need to buy a new steering column lock if my steering wheel is locked and my ignition switched stuck as "locked"?
but try wiggle shaking and banging the crap out of it to jar it loose first. blow a heat gun/hairdryer on it if its cold etc. you only need it to disengage one last time. Some folks have luck tapping it with a little hard object like a SMALL hammer or screwdriver. My understanding (from reading these threads) is that over-lube inside causes failure of some plastic bits and the little gear teeth fail then get hung up. tap tap taparoo might get it one last time, then once its unlocked you can pull the fuse (and save a couple hundred bucks and a wasted day or two)

good luck.

SurfDog 01-05-2013 02:09 AM
oh, i see you are stuck in a garage and new to the problem of the steering lock. I HIGHLY recommend reading this thread from first page you will soon totally understand the problem and the fix.

again... good luck. you might get lucky on it coming loose with the banging. Just make sure you pull the fuse after your column is unlocked and **before** you shut off your car and it sticks/locks again.

molamann 01-05-2013 02:16 AM
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Originally Posted by SurfDog (Post 2095070)
oh, i see you are stuck in a garage and new to the problem of the steering lock. I HIGHLY recommend reading this thread from first page you will soon totally understand the problem and the fix.

again... good luck. you might get lucky on it coming loose with the banging. Just make sure you pull the fuse after your column is unlocked and **before** you shut off your car and it sticks/locks again.
Thanks for the tip, been reading over this issue for a few hours now, what a way to spend my Friday night. :shakes head:

Hopefully I can get it to unlock with the tapping method.

Baer383 01-05-2013 02:20 AM
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Originally Posted by molamann (Post 2095076)
Thanks for the tip, been reading over this issue for a few hours now, what a way to spend my Friday night. :shakes head:

Hopefully I can get it to unlock with the tapping method.
Better than spending 1500 bucks to have a dealer fix it.:shakes head:

Some people reported beating the sh!t out of it to get it to start.

SurfDog 01-05-2013 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by molamann (Post 2095076)
Thanks for the tip, been reading over this issue for a few hours now, what a way to spend my Friday night. :shakes head:

Hopefully I can get it to unlock with the tapping method.
yep no good. Sorry friend. I was very fortunate to stumble on this info and pull my fuse before I got stranded, but I've read stories from a bunch of guys who tap-tapped there way out of a trip to the dealer so I know it can be done. use something small and hard like a screwdriver. tap firmly but don't dent in the casing.

TripleBlkZ 01-05-2013 05:46 PM
Going though the 30 some pages I am sure I missed this but just to confirm if you look under your steering wheel and have Rev A, Rev B, Rev C you should pull the fuse? anything else you should be fine (Rev D, Rev E)?

Baer383 01-05-2013 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by TripleBlkZ (Post 2095962)
Going though the 30 some pages I am sure I missed this but just to confirm if you look under your steering wheel and have Rev A, Rev B, Rev C, or Rev D you should pull the fuse? anything else you should be fine?
If your SL is working properly turn the key on and pull the fuse and that's it,
and yes pull the fuse regardless of what rev you have.

Benadrylz 01-06-2013 01:00 PM
I thought I did it wrong at first because it still felt locked. But then I realized I had no power steering when off XD. Wheels turned just fine. Thanks :)

Except I dropped a fastener somewhere in the engine bay :shakes head:
Trying to find it still...

370ZNISMO#704 01-06-2013 02:43 PM
Just did it on mine didn't even look to see what ver I was didn't care just wanted it fixed lol.
But I'm not gonna lie I loved hearing the lock engage and disengage. Gonna miss it but not as much as being stuck some where.
Thanks guys for finding hopefully the best and only fix.
CHEERS!!!

SurfDog 01-06-2013 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Benadrylz (Post 2096882)
I thought I did it wrong at first because it still felt locked. But then I realized I had no power steering when off XD. Wheels turned just fine. Thanks :)

Except I dropped a fastener somewhere in the engine bay :shakes head:
Trying to find it still...
I dropped a leatherman down into mine when i did the fix.
5 minutes to pull the fuse, 30 to fish out my screwdriver from the murky depths of the engine bay.

Benadrylz 01-06-2013 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by SurfDog (Post 2097186)
I dropped a leatherman down into mine when i did the fix.
5 minutes to pull the fuse, 30 to fish out my screwdriver from the murky depths of the engine bay.
I never found the fastener :shakes head: Have to order some spares from Z1

SouthArk370Z 01-06-2013 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Benadrylz (Post 2097649)
I never found the fastener :shakes head: Have to order some spares from Z1
If you're talking about the plastic "pop rivets", I get mine from my favorite body shop. The last batch I got was fifty cents a piece for a handful (14).

TGreen 01-13-2013 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z (Post 2097656)
If you're talking about the plastic "pop rivets", I get mine from my favorite body shop. The last batch I got was fifty cents a piece for a handful (14).
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Originally Posted by Benadrylz (Post 2097649)
I never found the fastener :shakes head: Have to order some spares from Z1
I dropped a fastener down into my bay, too. I think I heard it hit the shroud that covers the bottom of the engine bay. Anyone have any luck pulling that thing off and retrieving whatever fell in? (In my case, the clip.)

If I can't get at it, what or how great is the harm in just leaving the clip in there to eventually work it's way out?

Here's the link to those fastener clips; from Z1: OEM Trim Clip 09321

SouthArk370Z 01-13-2013 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by TGreen (Post 2109958)
I dropped a fastener down into my bay, too. I think I heard it hit the shroud that covers the bottom of the engine bay. Anyone have any luck pulling that thing off and retrieving whatever fell in? (In my case, the clip.)

If I can't get at it, what or how great is the harm in just leaving the clip in there to eventually work it's way out?
Shouldn't do any harm unless it gets against the exhaust manifold or exhaust pipes.
I haven't taken my shroud off, but I hear it's a pretty easy job - 10 bolts/screws or so. Look at the DIY for changing oil.

JARblue 01-14-2013 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z (Post 2110003)
Shouldn't do any harm unless it gets against the exhaust manifold or exhaust pipes.
I haven't taken my shroud off, but I hear it's a pretty easy job - 10 bolts/screws or so. Look at the DIY for changing oil.
There's actually a flap that is only a very small portion of the undershroud and only requires 4 bolts to remove instead of the 10+ bolts. This might be easier to try first if you can get your arm in there to reach around for the lost fastener - if not, you're already on your way to removing the undershroud :tup: Just make sure you do this when the car hasn't been operated in a while - last thing you want is to burn your arm on something really hot.

Stosh Rickles 01-14-2013 04:31 PM
Question: I assumed I didn't have SLU issues the first two times my Z failed to start because re-charging/replacing the car battery started the car. Now, on its third failure to start, I can't get it into ACC, which assumedly means SLU problems. Is there a reason why disconnecting and replacing the car battery could have worked before, but not now?


BTW, nice compilation of symptoms below SouthArk, thanks.


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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z (Post 2084582)
SLU failure will allow the car to go to neither ACC nor ON.


Sounds a lot like SLU failure.


As far as I know, that will have no effect on the SLU problem.


If the SLU locking pin does not retract completely, the wheel will be unlocked, but the microswitches are out of synch.

Is the Intelligent Key warning (to the left of the VID (outside temp, MPG, &c)) on? Won't go to ACC or ON? No whirr from the SLU when you press the start button? If all those are happening, you have SLU failure.


You have to pull the fuse after you get the SLU to let the car go to ON or ACC. If the SLU is not making the microswitches properly, it does no good to pull the fuse. See my thread at http://www.the370z.com/engine-drivet...heel-lock.html for links to more info.

SouthArk370Z 01-14-2013 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Stosh Rickles (Post 2111214)
Question: I assumed I didn't have SLU issues the first two times my Z failed to start because re-charging/replacing the car battery started the car. Now, on its third failure to start, I can't get it into ACC, which assumedly means SLU problems. Is there a reason why disconnecting and replacing the car battery could have worked before, but not now?

BTW, nice compilation of symptoms below SouthArk, thanks.
Just guessing here, but, if you're having an SLU problem, disconnecting the battery may merely give the SLU another chance to retract fully. I doubt that disconnecting the battery has any effect and it's just coincidence. But I'm just guessing.
I'd try rapping/beating on the SLU until you can get the car into ACC/ON, then pull the fuse (or install a harness or cut the wire).

You're welcome.

MannyD 01-15-2013 05:19 PM
Hey guys, having trouble lifting the fuse box out when pushing the 2 tabs in. Any pointers?

SouthArk370Z 01-15-2013 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by MannyD (Post 2112928)
Hey guys, having trouble lifting the fuse box out when pushing the 2 tabs in. Any pointers?
Lift straight up. You may need to stick your hand underneath and guide the wire bundle past the bracket.

MannyD 01-15-2013 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z (Post 2113007)
Lift straight up. You may need to stick your hand underneath and guide the wire bundle past the bracket.
That thing is in there good. I tried pulling straight up to no avail...and I beat that bracket up pretty good in the process :shakes head:

Reach under on which side? Closest to the battery or on the shorter sides of the fuse box? Its a tight squeeze around that fuse box.

SouthArk370Z 01-15-2013 06:49 PM
The bundle comes into the IPDM from the bottom. IIRC, I stuck my arm down the left side (toward rear of car). The bundle is not very flexible, but it's not too bad.
Are you sure the tabs on the back of the IPDM are clearing the bracket?
Try pulling upward on the bottom of the IPDM while releasing the tabs.

MannyD 01-15-2013 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z (Post 2113047)
The bundle comes into the IPDM from the bottom. IIRC, I stuck my arm down the left side (toward rear of car). The bundle is not very flexible, but it's not too bad.
Are you sure the tabs on the back of the IPDM are clearing the bracket?
Try pulling upward on the bottom of the IPDM while releasing the tabs.
Yeah they're definitely clearing the bracket, i've actually bent the top of the bracket back some to make sure. Think i may try cutting the wire if i can't get this to work. There's barely any movement trying to pull it up and I don't want to give it that one good yank and damage anything.

thezmonster 01-15-2013 08:39 PM
you can see the pic of the plastic tabs one each side needs to pull it up toward to you

http://www.the370z.com/members/thezm...astic-tabs.jpg

view of the steering lock

http://www.the370z.com/members/thezm...-lock-fuse.jpg

it literally took me like a mintue to pop IPDM off the bracket, just gotta give a lil muscle lol haha Im a Nissan Technician figured why its too easy for me Hope this pics help you MannyD

MannyD 01-16-2013 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by thezmonster (Post 2113185)
you can see the pic of the plastic tabs one each side needs to pull it up toward to you

http://www.the370z.com/members/thezm...astic-tabs.jpg

view of the steering lock

http://www.the370z.com/members/thezm...-lock-fuse.jpg

it literally took me like a mintue to pop IPDM off the bracket, just gotta give a lil muscle lol haha Im a Nissan Technician figured why its too easy for me Hope this pics help you MannyD
Thanks guys. I had 2 other people try to pull this thing and it wouldn't budge...so I was glad that it just wasnt me being a weakling lol. But finally today it came out. That 10A fuse can kiss my a55.

lachap55 01-19-2013 05:01 PM
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I looked in battary compartment and did not see steering wheel fuse. i have and 2010 roadster 370z. where would my fuse be if not there?

Baer383 01-19-2013 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by lachap55 (Post 2120170)
I looked in battary compartment and did not see steering wheel fuse. i have and 2010 roadster 370z. where would my fuse be if not there?
it is on the other side of the battery by the fender in a pretty big black box that is pushed down by the fender secured by 2 black clips.

Kamus 01-19-2013 06:12 PM
Guys, my steering wheel lock died on me, so now the car won't start.
Now, the "good" news is that it died with the lock disengaged, so i can actually move the steering wheel.
I saw that removing the fuse would disable the lock, so i did that. The problem is the car still won't start even though i also disconnected the battery.
Can anyone point me in the right direction here? Because i don't want to shell out 500 bucks for another steering lock that is doomed to fail anyway (car is out of warranty). And i figured since the steering lock is disengaged, might as well just disable the thing for good.

Thanks in advance!

JARblue 01-19-2013 07:33 PM
Have you read through all the threads in detail here? I know there are people saying if it fails, you have to get it replaced. I am wondering if there is a way to remove it or bypass it to get the car to turn on, and then remove the fuse and reinstall the non-functioning one. Though now that I think about it, if there were a way to do that you would probably see people just removing it altogether, and I don't think that works. GL man, no fun...

Kamus 01-19-2013 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 2120353)
I know there are people saying if it fails, you have to get it replaced.
This is what i'm afraid off, There's no way i'm shelling out 500 bucks for something like this, specially since i'd be reflectively replacing it with something that will fail again.
This is why i need a temporary solution, i just need to turn on the car once and then i'll remove the fuse.

daisuke149 01-19-2013 07:49 PM
if its failed, you can hammer it a bit gently while trying to start the car to get it into unlock. start the car then, and pull the fuse immediately.

Your situation where its not locked and car wont start seems strange.

SouthArk370Z 01-19-2013 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Kamus (Post 2120370)
This is why i need a temporary solution, i just need to turn on the car once and then i'll remove the fuse.
Click --> http://www.the370z.com/engine-drivet...heel-lock.html

EDIT: PS: It's not necessary to post the same thing multiple times.


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