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carboy281 12-15-2012 12:14 PM

http://www.carkitcompany.com/nissan-...g-lock-harness Had this install less than 5mins in my 40th.. Had a friend replace his through the dealership Fk that!!! I hv Zero issue with the car.. Hope this helps

Baer383 12-15-2012 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by carboy281 (Post 2061152)
http://www.carkitcompany.com/nissan-...g-lock-harness Had this install less than 5mins in my 40th.. Had a friend replace his through the dealership Fk that!!! I hv Zero issue with the car.. Hope this helps

You don't need to buy anything all you need to do is remove a fuse.

ProfessorDave 12-15-2012 01:27 PM

Thanks for starting this thread, Baer. I just hit 15k miles on my 2009 370 and knew it would be a matter of time before I encountered a failure of the steering lock. I pulled my fuse this afternoon. Very simple job. Repped! :tup:

The only problem is my diminished lung capacity. You see, I was getting pretty good at holding my breath every time I hit the start button, waiting to see if the lock would fail to release :icon17:

Baer383 12-15-2012 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ProfessorDave (Post 2061224)
Thanks for starting this thread, Baer. I just hit 15k miles on my 2009 370 and knew it would be a matter of time before I encountered a failure of the steering lock. I pulled my fuse this afternoon. Very simple job. Repped! :tup:

The only problem is my diminished lung capacity. You see, I was getting pretty good at holding my breath every time I hit the start button, waiting to see if the lock would fail to release :icon17:

Breathe easy Dave, rep back at ya:hello:

DLSTR 12-16-2012 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by carboy281 (Post 2061152)
http://www.carkitcompany.com/nissan-...g-lock-harness Had this install less than 5mins in my 40th.. Had a friend replace his through the dealership Fk that!!! I hv Zero issue with the car.. Hope this helps

Bought this myself. Works great. Was not comfortable pulling the fuse and messing with the fusebox. Either method eliminates this useless box Nissan refuses to assist with unless you buy a GTR.

Baer383 12-16-2012 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by DLSTR (Post 2061983)
Bought this myself. Works great. Was not comfortable pulling the fuse and messing with the fusebox. Either method eliminates this useless box Nissan refuses to assist with unless you buy a GTR.

:icon14:

Better not mess with the gas cap either.:roflpuke2:

DLSTR 12-16-2012 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 2061985)
:icon14:

Better not mess with the gas cap either.:roflpuke2:

To each his own. Move along now and get a life ok? I didnt reply to you and certainly didnt dis respect you.

Baer383 12-16-2012 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DLSTR (Post 2062201)
To each his own. Move along now and get a life ok? I didnt reply to you and certainly didnt dis respect you.

My thread:tiphat:

Wondering why you would spend money on something when the testimonial in this thread shows that there are no ill effects.

SPOHN 12-16-2012 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 2062218)
My thread:tiphat:

That would be correct!!!

SouthArk370Z 12-16-2012 02:12 PM

I know I've posted my fair share of OT comments, but c'mon guys. Y'all are just clogging up an otherwise excellent thread. All of you seem like nice, knowledgeable, 370Z-driving folks - please stop bickering in the Tech section. TIA


Edit: Please do not respond to this post and clutter things up even more. Like it, ignore it or PM me.

AlphaSnacks 12-16-2012 06:35 PM

It's a wonderful feeling to never have to think about this stupid thing every time I step foot into my car. Hahaha. I love reading all of the comments from people who've done this.

Baer383 12-16-2012 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaSnacks (Post 2062705)
It's a wonderful feeling to never have to think about this stupid thing every time I step foot into my car. Hahaha. I love reading all of the comments from people who've done this.

And I like reading comments from people like you who have done this and haven't had a problem and forgot about it.:tiphat:

Scribe 12-18-2012 01:24 PM

What if your car fails in the unlocked position?
 
I had my car towed to the dealer today because of this issue and just now happened across this thread. My car (manufactured 11/2008) has the lock light on, but I can still turn the steering wheel just fine. Will pulling the fuse work for this situation? I've got the car sitting at the dealership right now and I'm expecting them to call any minute with a diagnosis.

Thanks!

Baer383 12-18-2012 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Scribe (Post 2065563)
I had my car towed to the dealer today because of this issue and just now happened across this thread. My car (manufactured 11/2008) has the lock light on, but I can still turn the steering wheel just fine. Will pulling the fuse work for this situation? I've got the car sitting at the dealership right now and I'm expecting them to call any minute with a diagnosis.

Thanks!

If the steering lock is in the unlock position and you pull the fuse it should start.

alcheng 12-18-2012 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 2062839)
And I like reading comments from people like you who have done this and haven't had a problem and forgot about it.:tiphat:

And I like reading comments from people like you always found useful tips and post it up here thus benefits lots of member thus people are very happy. :tiphat:

Baer383 12-18-2012 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by alcheng (Post 2065648)
And I like reading comments from people like you always found useful tips and post it up here thus benefits lots of member thus people are very happy. :tiphat:


Have a Rep and a smile.:hello:

Scribe 12-18-2012 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 2065585)
If the steering lock is in the unlock position and you pull the fuse it should start.

Thanks for the reply. I'll ask the dealership to attempt to pull the fuse.

Baer383 12-18-2012 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Scribe (Post 2065751)
Thanks for the reply. I'll ask the dealership to attempt to pull the fuse.

Do it yourself and drive home.:tup:

VSS370z 12-20-2012 11:44 AM

Just did this today at home, a bit of work but nothing major.The car fire up like normal,thanks a lot guys for a great find! :tiphat:

Baer383 12-20-2012 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by VSS370z (Post 2069498)
Just did this today at home, a bit of work but nothing major.The car fire up like normal,thanks a lot guys for a great find! :tiphat:

Glad to hear it now pay up with my Rep.:bowrofl:

Chico370Z 12-20-2012 11:57 AM

so, what is the difference between the IPDM and the steering lock? Im guessing the SL is powered by the IPDM unit. Just wondering because my IPDM was replaced recently and I am assuming this means my SL could prob still go, right?

Baer383 12-20-2012 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Chico370Z (Post 2069527)
so, what is the difference between the IPDM and the steering lock? Im guessing the SL is powered by the IPDM unit. Just wondering because my IPDM was replaced recently and I am assuming this means my SL could prob still go, right?

The steering lock and IPDM are different parts so if your SL was not replaced then yes it can go bad.

SouthArk370Z 12-20-2012 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Chico370Z (Post 2069527)
so, what is the difference between the IPDM and the steering lock? Im guessing the SL is powered by the IPDM unit. Just wondering because my IPDM was replaced recently and I am assuming this means my SL could prob still go, right?

The IPDM-E/R (Intelligent Power Distribution Module - Engine Room) contains fuses, relays, and a computer to turn things on and off. Located next to the battery.

The Steering Lock Unit is powered by the IPDM-E/R. Located under dash on steering column.

Yes. Your SLU can still fail.

VSS370z 12-20-2012 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 2069522)
Glad to hear it now pay up with my Rep.:bowrofl:

:roflpuke2: Have a Rep! :happydance:

Chico370Z 12-20-2012 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z (Post 2069741)
The IPDM-E/R (Intelligent Power Distribution Module - Engine Room) contains fuses, relays, and a computer to turn things on and off. Located next to the battery.

The Steering Lock Unit is powered by the IPDM-E/R. Located under dash on steering column.

Yes. Your SLU can still fail.

thanks, so basically you would pull the SL fuse from the IPDM

Baer383 12-20-2012 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Chico370Z (Post 2069926)
thanks, so basically you would pull the SL fuse from the IPDM

That is the only SL fuse to pull there are no others
So to answer your question yes

SouthArk370Z 12-20-2012 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Chico370Z (Post 2069926)
thanks, so basically you would pull the SL fuse from the IPDM

I would and I did. ;)

Instructions are above and in several other threads. I've collected links to many of the SLU-related threads at Links to posts about Steering Wheel Lock.

Scribe 12-20-2012 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Scribe (Post 2065751)
Thanks for the reply. I'll ask the dealership to attempt to pull the fuse.

It didn't work, but here's an update. My steering wheel was not actually locked, but the car seems to have been in the locked mode. This means that if it fails, regardless of whether it is physically locked or not, pulling the fuse will not work.

Nissan consumer affairs is involved at this point (and has been since I found this thread), though everything with them is on a case-by-case basis.

Scribe 12-27-2012 10:02 AM

The Nissan consumer affairs is going to cover $600 of the $1220 bill. Something of note is that I get my car serviced regularly and have a good history with Nissan and did my financing through them. The amount they are going to reimburse is not enough to cover the known defective parts ($780!).

All in all, I have mixed feelings on the matter. Nissan is doing something and my car isn't under warranty, but I don't feel it's enough. I feel like although the people at Sterling McCall were nice, the quote for three hours of shop time is ludicrous and will definitely not be doing business with them again. I get all my regular service done at Baker, but they don't do body work, so my original repair was done by Sterling and I was at one of their locations when my car wouldn't start.

JARblue 12-27-2012 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Scribe (Post 2079191)
The Nissan consumer affairs is going to cover $600 of the $1220 bill. Something of note is that I get my car serviced regularly and have a good history with Nissan and did my financing through them. The amount they are going to reimburse is not enough to cover the known defective parts ($780!).

All in all, I have mixed feelings on the matter. Nissan is doing something and my car isn't under warranty, but I don't feel it's enough. I feel like although the people at Sterling McCall were nice, the quote for three hours of shop time is ludicrous and will definitely not be doing business with them again. I get all my regular service done at Baker, but they don't do body work, so my original repair was done by Sterling and I was at one of their locations when my car wouldn't start.

That sucks, man. After the new mechanism is installed, I would instruct the dealer to remove the fuse immediately... Or else make them sign something that says if it fails again, they will cover every imaginable cost related to the failure.

gurneyeagle 12-27-2012 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Scribe (Post 2079191)
......... I get all my regular service done at Baker, but they don't do body work, so my original repair was done by Sterling and I was at one of their locations when my car wouldn't start.

Baker North has a great body shop. They did my Nismo conversion, as well as painted my door handles. Ask for Manny, or just contact Paul Morgan and he will set you up.

Speedguy07 12-28-2012 02:26 AM

http://i50.tinypic.com/10d762f.jpg
Cant break it down any more then this thanks guys thought it might help since no one posted pictures also fuse box cover is intimidating at first but it unclips easy from the bottom 2 clips.:hello:

Scribe 12-28-2012 11:14 AM

I pulled my fuse at the dealership before they even made the repair, so there's no chance of failure again.

Baer383 12-28-2012 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Scribe (Post 2081448)
I pulled my fuse at the dealership before they even made the repair, so there's no chance of failure again.

Good job:tup:

Sevens370Z 12-30-2012 12:57 AM

I seemed to be having he steering lock issue. My question is, does the steering lock keep the car from going into ACC or just ON?

I changed the battery last night and cranked the car right up. Now, she won't make a sound. Lights are good, interior lights are good, and the car locks and unlocks with the remote. But, pushing the start button......NOTHING.

I tried locking and unlocking the driver side door as recommended by the service manager @ Nissan. Still, nothing.

Also, the steering wheel is NOT locked. Moves freely. I removed the fuse, and still nothing.

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SouthArk370Z 12-30-2012 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Sevens370Z (Post 2084563)
I seemed to be having he steering lock issue. My question is, does the steering lock keep the car from going into ACC or just ON?

SLU failure will allow the car to go to neither ACC nor ON.

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Originally Posted by Sevens370Z (Post 2084563)
I changed the battery last night and cranked the car right up. Now, she won't make a sound. Lights are good, interior lights are good, and the car locks and unlocks with the remote. But, pushing the start button......NOTHING.

Sounds a lot like SLU failure.

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Originally Posted by Sevens370Z (Post 2084563)
I tried locking and unlocking the driver side door as recommended by the service manager @ Nissan. Still, nothing.

As far as I know, that will have no effect on the SLU problem.

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Originally Posted by Sevens370Z (Post 2084563)
Also, the steering wheel is NOT locked. Moves freely.

If the SLU locking pin does not retract completely, the wheel will be unlocked, but the microswitches are out of synch.

Is the Intelligent Key warning (to the left of the VID (outside temp, MPG, &c)) on? Won't go to ACC or ON? No whirr from the SLU when you press the start button? If all those are happening, you have SLU failure.

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Originally Posted by Sevens370Z (Post 2084563)
I removed the fuse, and still nothing.

You have to pull the fuse after you get the SLU to let the car go to ON or ACC. If the SLU is not making the microswitches properly, it does no good to pull the fuse. See my thread at http://www.the370z.com/engine-drivet...heel-lock.html for links to more info.

Sevens370Z 12-30-2012 12:09 PM

Thanks SouthArk370Z! Yep, all symptoms I have. No ability to get the car in ACC mode. It's SLU.

Eon777 12-30-2012 01:04 PM

Thanks for that great solution!! I can spend the money I saved on something else now..

Full Points for that one!! :)

Baer383 12-30-2012 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Eon777 (Post 2084925)
Thanks for that great solution!! I can spend the money I saved on something else now..

Full Points for that one!! :)

If you guys have found my thread helpful,the least you guys can do is REP someone for their hard work which was posted here to help save you money,time,aggravation,and anything else that makes this easier.

Thanks for paying back with a REP.

BHR-370z 12-31-2012 04:18 AM

Nice work guys, problem solved (REP ++)


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