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SouthArk370Z 12-06-2012 11:08 PM

If you want to investigate further, try Links to posts about Steering Wheel Lock or Google "370Z steering lock".

I can understand your concerns about taking advice from someone on the 'Net, but you will find that quite a few ppl on here have removed the fuse, installed the harness, or clipped the wire and reported no problems - it's not just one or two ppl making the claim. That is no guarantee that some problem will not pop up in the future, but, at least for the short term, there doesn't appear to be any ill effects.

Hope that helps.

Blizzard 12-07-2012 02:23 AM

I pulled my fuse 2 weeks ago. No problems - peace of mind.


Maybe we should start a separate thread with a poll of people who have disabled the lock.

Baer383 12-07-2012 04:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by weslmac (Post 2049136)

Baer383 just wanted to clerify that he was not connected to the dealership and he did not work for the shop.

The discussion about the fuse was outside with only me and my new english speaking friend.He made it very clear that by pulling the fuse other problems may arrise.
Why would I question a guy who takes time out of his day to volunteer to help me? I suppose I sould put more confidence in a post on a forum from someone I dont know. Again my belief is this forum is for informational purposes and I apreciate all the information that has been provided on this topic as of 48 hours ago I was not aware of this issue.

At least now I can make an educated decision.

You took information from someone you didn't know what the hell is the difference if you took it from this forum?
That a stupid statement when you come on the forum and post on a steering lock problem solving thread but yet take information from a gut who only says that " new problems may arise" and then you were good with that, well you don't know me so I recommend you keep the fuse in.:shakes head:

SouthArk370Z 12-07-2012 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blizzard (Post 2049264)
I pulled my fuse 2 weeks ago. No problems - peace of mind.

Maybe we should start a separate thread with a poll of people who have disabled the lock.

http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...lock-fuse.html

weslmac 12-10-2012 05:07 AM

Baer383 I suppose if I wrote that this NISSAM Production Line Diagnostic Engineer agreed with you we would be best buds. I do value this forum and what members have to say but I do not discredit everyone outside the forum nor do I randomly seek out someone who may disagree with a post on here to stir up a bunch of unnecessary drama. I will keep the fuse as advised.

SouthArk370Z
I agree and if I came off as if I was not grateful for the posts on here I was wrong. The posts saved me a lot of money in repairs by using the harness that was designed on this forum. My intention when I posted my story about the fuse and the Nissan employee was only informational for the group.

Baer383 12-10-2012 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by weslmac (Post 2053033)
Baer383 I suppose if I wrote that this NISSAM Production Line Diagnostic Engineer agreed with you we would be best buds. I do value this forum and what members have to say but I do not discredit everyone outside the forum nor do I randomly seek out someone who may disagree with a post on here to stir up a bunch of unnecessary drama. I will keep the fuse as advised.

SouthArk370Z
I agree and if I came off as if I was not grateful for the posts on here I was wrong. The posts saved me a lot of money in repairs by using the harness that was designed on this forum. My intention when I posted my story about the fuse and the Nissan employee was only informational for the group.

If you inform Nissan that you are/want to use the harness you will be told the same thing all Manufactures will not recommend anything against their design so if you plan to keep that mentality this forum won't be to much help to you except maybe the car detail section.

alcheng 12-10-2012 11:52 PM

I decided to tackle the Steering Lock Fuse tonight.....


So..........


Step 1)

http://www.the370z.com/attachment.ph...7&d=1355203217


Step 2) It's quite a pain in the bu!! to take off that plastic cover, and it was more pain in the bu!! to put it back together after.... :icon14:


http://www.the370z.com/attachment.ph...8&d=1355203217


Step 3) The fuse box... you really have to pull it out slowly with strength... and reach to the bottom of the box to reach to 'tap' to release the cover..

http://www.the370z.com/attachment.ph...9&d=1355203217



Step 4) Now... this is the part caught me 5000% off guard..... I looked at the fuse diagram, and it states the fuse for the steering lock is the top one of the lower group....

And when I look at the fuse box.. I saw this..... :confused: ==> :eek:
( Click to show/hide )

http://www.the370z.com/attachment.ph...0&d=1355203217


I was all puzzle and thinking "WTF...?? Where is the damn fuse....? :confused:

Seconds later I realized the possibilities are: 1) Nissan don't put steering lock in their fleet anymore thus no fuse 2) Nissan removed the fuse prior the Z leave the factory.

Anyway... I am kinda relieved that I don't need to worry about the steering lock issue.... :tup:



Step 5) ....

( Click to show/hide )

weslmac 12-11-2012 04:25 AM

BAER383 I am using the harness with confidence from information gathered from this site so the DIY was very helpful. The Z was brought to Japan with the intent of selling it so I don't think you will get the opportunity to be first in line. I think its time for a Skyline

daisuke149 12-11-2012 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alcheng (Post 2054514)
I decided to tackle the Steering Lock Fuse tonight.....


They stopped putting in the steering locks mid 2011 year. so yeah yours probably didnt have it..

easy to tell. turn car off. do you hear it? is the steering locked?

memmott 12-11-2012 09:54 AM

KUDOS from family member
 
I know you guys are going to kill me for posting here but the team BAER/DAI have literally saved me from untold misery.

I have had a key light off/on for the last 3 weeks, beating the h### out of my key lock to get it to release. That worked - so far. But time was definitely running out. I started searching for a solution and finally found this thread.

I ran out this morning and after activating ACC removed the fuse you referenced and bingo! Problem solved!

But this is why your going to kick me out of here - it's an '09 Altima. apparently Altimas have exactly the same steering locks and fuse blocks. This part of the wiring (the steering lock part) is exactly the same. With your
permission I would like to spread the word in the Altima forum so they can stop shelling out $850 a pop for these ridiculous devices. (could be that the info is already there but I haven't seen it in that forum yet)

I have to say you guys are incredibly professional and methodical - working out problems in a very team-oriented fashion. Mega REPS to all of you, but especially BAER, DAI and lets not forget FRITZ who really got the ball rolling.

I promise I won't contaminate the forum with any more Altima references!!!

daisuke149 12-11-2012 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by memmott (Post 2054791)
I know you guys are going to kill me for posting here but the team BAER/DAI have literally saved me from untold misery.

I have had a key light off/on for the last 3 weeks, beating the h### out of my key lock to get it to release. That worked - so far. But time was definitely running out. I started searching for a solution and finally found this thread.

I ran out this morning and after activating ACC removed the fuse you referenced and bingo! Problem solved!

But this is why your going to kick me out of here - it's an '09 Altima. apparently Altimas have exactly the same steering locks and fuse blocks. This part of the wiring (the steering lock part) is exactly the same. With your
permission I would like to spread the word in the Altima forum so they can stop shelling out $850 a pop for these ridiculous devices. (could be that the info is already there but I haven't seen it in that forum yet)

I have to say you guys are incredibly professional and methodical - working out problems in a very team-oriented fashion. Mega REPS to all of you, but especially BAER, DAI and lets not forget FRITZ who really got the ball rolling.

I promise I won't contaminate the forum with any more Altima references!!!

spread it around for sure.

start up a list of failures. send it to Nissan. they should fix this **** for everyone.

Baer383 12-11-2012 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by memmott (Post 2054791)
I know you guys are going to kill me for posting here but the team BAER/DAI have literally saved me from untold misery.

I have had a key light off/on for the last 3 weeks, beating the h### out of my key lock to get it to release. That worked - so far. But time was definitely running out. I started searching for a solution and finally found this thread.

I ran out this morning and after activating ACC removed the fuse you referenced and bingo! Problem solved!

But this is why your going to kick me out of here - it's an '09 Altima. apparently Altimas have exactly the same steering locks and fuse blocks. This part of the wiring (the steering lock part) is exactly the same. With your
permission I would like to spread the word in the Altima forum so they can stop shelling out $850 a pop for these ridiculous devices. (could be that the info is already there but I haven't seen it in that forum yet)

I have to say you guys are incredibly professional and methodical - working out problems in a very team-oriented fashion. Mega REPS to all of you, but especially BAER, DAI and lets not forget FRITZ who really got the ball rolling.

I promise I won't contaminate the forum with any more Altima references!!!

Spread the word we are here to help everyone not just "Z" owners :tup:

SouthArk370Z 12-11-2012 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daisuke149 (Post 2054665)
They stopped putting in the steering locks mid 2011 year. so yeah yours probably didnt have it..

easy to tell. turn car off. do you hear it? is the steering locked?

IIRC, you have to open the driver's door before it locks. But, yeah, just listen for it. It's loud enough that you can't miss it if it's there.

alcheng 12-11-2012 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daisuke149 (Post 2054665)
They stopped putting in the steering locks mid 2011 year. so yeah yours probably didnt have it..

easy to tell. turn car off. do you hear it? is the steering locked?


Maybe that's why I don't see the fuse...

It's good to find out anyway... :icon17:

memmott 12-11-2012 10:41 AM

Pulling the fuse
 
One more thing...I forgot to mention - others have mentioned the difficulty in removing the fuse from the block because of how small it is. There is a fuse puller with your in-dash fuse block that you can remove and use to pull the under-hood fuse. If you look at the fuse block inside the car (not under the hood) you will see the tool at the end of the fuse block. Much easier on the fingers!

Baer383 12-11-2012 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by memmott (Post 2054871)
One more thing...I forgot to mention - others have mentioned the difficulty in removing the fuse from the block because of how small it is. There is a fuse puller with your in-dash fuse block that you can remove and use to pull the under-hood fuse. If you look at the fuse block inside the car (not under the hood) you will see the tool at the end of the fuse block. Much easier on the fingers!

So are pliers.:tup:

SouthArk370Z 12-11-2012 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by memmott (Post 2054871)
One more thing...I forgot to mention - others have mentioned the difficulty in removing the fuse from the block because of how small it is. There is a fuse puller with your in-dash fuse block that you can remove and use to pull the under-hood fuse. If you look at the fuse block inside the car (not under the hood) you will see the tool at the end of the fuse block. Much easier on the fingers!

Great tip. I wish you had posted this before I removed mine. I didn't have a puller handy (or so I thought) and had a difficult time getting the fuse out. :)

JARblue 12-11-2012 02:26 PM

I just took care of this today - will rep when my reps reset :tup: Thanks guys! :tiphat:

Baer383 12-11-2012 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 2055320)
I just took care of this today - will rep when my reps reset :tup: Thanks guys! :tiphat:

:tup:

SPOHN 12-11-2012 03:42 PM

And Nissan still won't do a recall.:shakes head:

alcheng 12-11-2012 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 2055493)
And Nissan still won't do a recall.:shakes head:

I think it's because:

1) Doesn't cause a safety issue
2) Nissan is too cheap

pseftis 12-13-2012 05:31 PM

Unmmmm just took out my steering lock fuse.. Car won't turn on now.. Wtf!

SouthArk370Z 12-13-2012 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pseftis (Post 2058887)
Unmmmm just took out my steering lock fuse.. Car won't turn on now.. Wtf!

Did you make sure the lock unit was in the unlocked position before pulling the fuse? You don't give any details, so we can't tell if you followed one of the procedures or just yanked the fuse out.


Edit: Are you sure you got the right fuse? Give us a few details.

pseftis 12-13-2012 05:42 PM

Put fuse back in and started right back up.. Help!

Baer383 12-13-2012 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pseftis (Post 2058887)
Unmmmm just took out my steering lock fuse.. Car won't turn on now.. Wtf!

Did u have the key on when you pulled the fuse

pseftis 12-13-2012 05:46 PM

Nope

pseftis 12-13-2012 05:46 PM

So I just have to leave the key in and then pull the fuse?

SouthArk370Z 12-13-2012 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pseftis (Post 2058905)
So I just have to leave the key in and then pull the fuse?

Yep. Make sure you hear the lock retract.

SouthArk370Z 12-13-2012 05:51 PM

Wait! If you have a 2012, you don't have a SLU!

Baer383 12-13-2012 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pseftis (Post 2058903)
Nope

You need to have the key on then pull it then try it

pseftis 12-13-2012 05:52 PM

Tadaaa worked! Thx guys

pseftis 12-13-2012 05:53 PM

2010 40th annj

SouthArk370Z 12-13-2012 05:54 PM

ah. Says Said 2012 on the side info box.
Glad you got it going. :tup:

JARblue 12-13-2012 05:56 PM

Removed Pintsize's steering lock fuse last night - in the dark of my driveway :icon17:

asdfsammich 12-15-2012 02:24 AM

Ok. Yep. Even if you had your lock replaced before, just pull the fuse. Don't trust later revisions. They break too!

I just got home and had to post this.

So I get back to CA tonight, 6+ hour flight from FL to CA.

Tired as hell from working in FL for a week, and just wanting to get home I land, get my luggage and then go get my car.

Yep. Steering lock fails. So, I bang it for a while and but it still won't start. I call NISSAN road service to get a flatbed.

While waiting, I am now starting the really beat the s*it out of the lock. Then, one solid kick later and I hear it unlock and it's starts! It's like 11p by now, so I cancel the tow and drive home.

After I park I leave the car on, pull up this thread on my iPhone and proceed to pull the fuse.

F*ucken lol! Long day! But, I saved myself a hell of a lot more head ache cuz of this thread. I'd hate to have gone to the dealer for this and deal with not having my car for days or weeks.

Point is, even if you've been replaced with a newer part, there's a decent chance that one will go bad as well.

Haha. Oh yeh. Apart from being tired as hell and just wanting to get home, most of this was happening in the rain! Hilarity lols.

Oh, thank you to Baer/dai for getting the fuse pull DIY thing going.



Tapatalk & such etc

Baer383 12-15-2012 05:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asdfsammich (Post 2060888)
Ok. Yep. Even if you had your lock replaced before, just pull the fuse. Don't trust later revisions. They break too!

I just got home and had to post this.

So I get back to CA tonight, 6+ hour flight from FL to CA.

Tired as hell from working in FL for a week, and just wanting to get home I land, get my luggage and then go get my car.

Yep. Steering lock fails. So, I bang it for a while and but it still won't start. I call NISSAN road service to get a flatbed.

While waiting, I am now starting the really beat the s*it out of the lock. Then, one solid kick later and I hear it unlock and it's starts! It's like 11p by now, so I cancel the tow and drive home.

After I park I leave the car on, pull up this thread on my iPhone and proceed to pull the fuse.

F*ucken lol! Long day! But, I saved myself a hell of a lot more head ache cuz of this thread. I'd hate to have gone to the dealer for this and deal with not having my car for days or weeks.

Point is, even if you've been replaced with a newer part, there's a decent chance that one will go bad as well.

Haha. Oh yeh. Apart from being tired as hell and just wanting to get home, most of this was happening in the rain! Hilarity lols.

Oh, thank you to Baer/dai for getting the fuse pull DIY thing going.



Tapatalk & such etc


I'm really glad that out of all the info I have given people on this forum over the past 2 years that I was able to find this and make such a difference in helping people from allot of aggravation,money loss,and you name it,it makes me feel good to read stories like yours that you were saved from a really bad situation.
Thank you for your story and your welcome from my/Dai find.:tiphat:

Jasonle 12-15-2012 07:55 AM

is this something easy to do? I'm not very smart when comes to cutting wires or working on cars. I had mine replaced with revision D last year..

Baer383 12-15-2012 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jasonle (Post 2060975)
is this something easy to do? I'm not very smart when comes to cutting wires or working on cars. I had mine replaced with revision D last year..

It is very easy to do,in the beginning of the thread some where it shows you how to get to the fuse,all you really need to do is turn the car on and pull the fuse that's it nothing really hard at all

JARblue 12-15-2012 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jasonle (Post 2060975)
is this something easy to do? I'm not very smart when comes to cutting wires or working on cars. I had mine replaced with revision D last year..

Super easy. No wire cutting or serious work needed. You're smart to do this even with rev D. Small needle nose pliers are really all you need to remove the fuse. You will want a flat head screw driver to help remove the plastic clips that holds the battery compartment plastic down. Honestly, it should take less than 10 minutes to remove the two components to where you can pull out the fuse box enough to access it. Just familiarize yourself with this thread and refer to it as needed during the process. Once you have the fuse box out, turn the car to ACC or ON and then remove the fuse. Then reassemble everything you just took apart. :tup:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 2060982)
It is very easy to do,in the beginning of the thread some where it shows you how to get to the fuse,all you really need to do is turn the car on and pull the fuse that's it nothing really hard at all

:iagree:

Jasonle 12-15-2012 08:27 AM

Thanks guys for the help! really appreciate it. I will have to try this asap


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